*HTML is OFF *UBB Code is ON Smilies Legend
Smilies Legend
If you have previously registered, but forgotten your password, click here.
T O P I C R E V I E Wvenusdeindiaguys, just found this page, its really mind blowing, i m posting the info.. http://www.astromagik.com/astrofiles/astro-asteroids.htm The Asteroids are like OctavesThe Asteroids are symbolic transformers between the lower octave planet and the higher octave planet. The Table below shows how the asteroids can transform the lower octave vibrations into their higher octavecorrespondences. Each ASTEROID PAIR contains a MASCULINE and FEMININE body, each of which represents one POLE of the BI-POLAR principle. The asteroids act as a BRIDGE between lower and higher octave functions ... thereby transforming them.As defined in MUSIC THEORY ... octaves are two notes that possess the identical harmonic structure but differ in pitch. A lower octave such as a "low C" contains a certain number of vibrations per second, the higher octave such as “high C” contains exactly twice the vibrations as the lower octave note.Astrology, the systematic study of the music of the spheres, likewise contains its version of the octave principle ... These planetary pairs are lower and higher octaves examples ... MERCURY-URANUS ... VENUS-NEPTUNE ... MARS-PLUTO all have similar energy patterns, but they express themselves at different vibrational levels. Lower octave planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars represent the forces that govern personal growth and awareness. Higher octave planets Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto — denote a more rapid, finely tuned vibration and symbolize cosmic energy that affects humanity as a whole. Their primary meaning is a speeding up of the evolutionary process of the solar system. venusdeindiaMERCURY represents the lower octave of wisdom or mind. The lower mind uses ICARUS to escape conventional thinking which society has programmed you from birth in order to keep the status quo a reality. This allows you to risk thinking outside the box. This change is brought about by the curiosity of PANDORA who has the reputation of being curious as in the story of Pandora's Box. This is the curiosity which initiates change. Once you are free from Conventional Thought and Curious to learn the truth ... next comes URANIA which usesher metaphysical abilities of inspired knowledge such as astrology, music, symbol logic, numerology to complete the bridge to URANUS which represents the higher mind or wisdom principle.VENUS represents the lower octave of Love or Passion such as the love of a man or woman. This octave is raised by using PSYCHE which is the capacity to be psychically sensitive to "others" this makes you come out of "ego" ... Utilizing SAPPHO from the Isle of Lesbos which has the capacity for romantic sensitivity and the ability to love both men and women equally, this represents the end of duality ... or the beginning of WHOLENESS ... Once you are able to love both half's of yourself you no longer label humans as men or women. Now that you are whole you can use AMOR which gives the capacity for spiritual or brotherly love and compassion. This completes the bridge to NEPTUNE which represents the higher octave of LOVE ... which is the type of LOVE that GOD has for mankind.MARS represents the lower octave of Raw Power, of Instinctive Desire ... EROS was able to refine and transform Mars' unconscious, instinctual sexual drive into erotic love as a path to spiritual illumination through his romance with Psyche ... LILITH is the Female Warrior who tames the wild beast, Lilith represents the Woman who demands to be treated equally in Relationships. If Lilith is not treated equally in personal relationships, her response will range from complete withdrawal to bickering and sexual manipulation to skillful negotiation and compromise. On the positive side, Lilith teaches us the art of consensus by which the transformative energy of MARS-PLUTO can be used to fuse rather than destroy the relationship ... TORO represents the principle of boundless strength and power and how we handle the power ... TORO describes how we confront and handle the onslaught of violent or negative influences that we experience either from without or from within our own minds ... Knowing how to turn one’s enemyinto an ally is indeed a potent power, especially when the “enemy” lies within your own being! Thus, TORO’ssecret teaching involves taming the inner power of the bull that resides in each of us and directing it for constructive purposes ... THUS completing the BRIDGE that transforms the raw, instinctive desire of MARS into the controlled, focused, and penetrating power of PLUTO. Now that MARS knows how to LOVE he is able to transform his PASSION into COMPASSION ... Now add a dash of Female DIANA who is the protector of small animals and the weak and add a dash of Male HIDALGO who is the protector of the downtrodden and poor we now have a compassionate MARS who uses his power to protect others ... through these two protectors MARS is able to TRANSFORM into the Higher Octave of JUPITER ... SATURN represents the STATUS QUO and usually only changes by FORCE kicking and screaming "WHY ME?" ... but when you add a HEALING DOSE of CHIRON to WHERE EVER your INITIAL WOUND is ... CHIRON will make you WHOLE again, this is the end of DUALITY ... This magically transforms SATURN into a person who changes happily because he cannow SEE that the CHANGE is a natural progression and is NECESSARY ... This is how you TRANSFORM Lowly SATURN into the HIGHER VIBRATIONAL OCTAVE of .... URANUS, NEPTUNE and PLUTO — these planets denote amore rapid, finely tuned principle of KNOWLEGE ... and symbolize the COSMIC ENERGY that affects HUMANITY as a WHOLE. Their primary meaning is a speeding up of the evolutionary process of the solar system. venusdeindiaAs portrayed in the table below, each asteroid pair contains a masculine and a feminine body,each of which represents one pole of the bipolar principle. darkdreamerVenus de India,that is a great page! It kind of ties in in what I was trying to do, sorting the asteroids in group. But that system was way more ... system-like. However, I found Sappho interesting. And I thought, somehow it should figure strongly in my synastry with those two singers. Because they really inspired me. singer P:his Sappho exactly conjunct my Moon (only 7 minutes of arc) in Aquarius (and conjunct his own SN)his Sappho also closely trines my Karmamy Sappho:opposes his Sunmy Sappho also is the Apex-planet of a yod with his Mars in Pisces and his MOon / Juno in Taurus.singer A:his Sappho falls into CAncer into my 8th house and makes an awful lot of aspects:His Sappho:conjuncts my Saturnconjuncts my Erosconjuncts my Vertexopposite my Sun-Moon-mptrines my Junosquares my own Sappho My Sappho:doesn`t make any important aspects to his chartoh btw in my own chart Sappho is in Libra in 10th house, conjunct DNA and opposing Chiron, also squaring Eros / Saturn / Vertex / Pan / Destinn in Cancer and square the Sun/Moon-mp in Capricorn and trines Psyche.Maybe I should start writing my poetry again. DDvenusdeindiaDD, i didnt initially buy IQ's zest for asteroids, since there was the matter of size when compared to planets, gravity etc. . But this piece really explains the octave principlke very well, and off my head i have a lot of case studies that prove this " Octave theory " is right. i hope the other members have experiences to post.darkdreamerI didn`t really believe in the effect of asteroids, either, at first. But one of their good qualities is that they move rather quickly, at least compared to the outer planets, and therefore you can really see the difference in different charts.Regarding this octave theory I looked up the placements and aspects of my asteroids and planets:WISDOM:Mercury in Sagittarius in 1st house:conjunct SunIcarus in Capricorn in 2nd house:no aspects to other planets, but it exactly conjuncts Anubis, whatever that meansPandora in Virgo in 9th house:sextile Saturnopposite Junoquinkunx MoonUrania in Aquarius in 2nd house:conjunct Psychetrine SapphoLOVEVenus in CApricorn in 1st house:square Pluto / MCsolstice point Sun and MercuryPsyche in Aquarius in 2nd house:conjunct Uraniasextile Sun and Mercurytrine SapphoSappho in Libra in 10th house:square Saturn / Eros / Vertexsquare Sun-Moon-mptrine Psychetrine UraniaAmor in Sagittarius in 12th house:conjunct Mars(conjunct Valentine)sextile IcarusPOWER.Mars in Sagittarius in 12th house:conjunct Amor, ASC, NN and Neptunesextile MCsquare LilithEros in Cancer in 8th house:conjunct Saturn and Vertexopposite Sun-Moon-mpsquare Sapphosquare ChironLilith in Virgo in 9th house:exactly trine Venussquare Mars and ASCToro in Scorpio in 11th house:sextile Dianatrine JupiterPROTECTION:Diana in Capricorn in 2nd housesextile Jupiteropposite Saturntrine PandoraHidalgo in Aquarius in 2nd housewidely conjunct Icarustrine Plutosquare Uranussextile Amor and MarsKNOWLEDGE:Saturn in Cancer in 8th house:conjunct Eros and Vertexsextile Pandoraopposite Dianatrine Junoquinkunx MoonChiron in Aries in 4th house:opposite Sapphosextile Moon and UraniaWell, the thing that I noticed is that a lot of these asteroids seem to occupy my 2nd house (Diana, Icarus, Hidalgo, Urania).They also seem to figure strongly in the synastry chart with P:His Icarus conjunct my PsycheHIs Icarus conjunct my UraniaHis Sappho conjunct my MoonHis Eros conjunct my ICHis Eros opposite my PlutoHis Diana conjunct his name in my cchartHis Amor conjunct my JunoHis Amor opposite my Pandora (0°04)His Toro conjunct my ToroMy Sappho opposite his SunMy Lilith conjunct his PlutoMy Lilith opposite his ChironMy Lilith opposite my name in his chartWell, I always had a soft spot for poor misunderstood Lilith. Oh and now I understand - I just calculated the DRaconics placements.Tropical Lilith conjuncts my draco nameasteroid exactly. (10 minutes)Draco Lilith conjuncts my Sun exactly (32 minutes) and also my Mercury, which is ruler of my DSC.Hmmm.....Just looked the Sabian for my Lilith and dr name asteroid up:PHASE 157 (VIRGO 7°): A HAREMWHAT? This definitely is so not me, and it certainly isn`t what Lilith would want. LOLHowever, the explanation seems to be more fitting.DDmars446WOW! I actually wrapped my head around asteroids, now that I read this piece. Thanks for posting it up. It makes soooo much sense, and more symbolism to consider in life MhaxVery good!AzalakshWhat a great find!! Thanks for posting it, VDI venusdeindiathanx all u guys....i was thinking an aspect between a inner planet and an asteroid could actually trigger a larger aspect.like for eg. Aphrodite/ psyche/ amor in aspect to pluto in synastry can lead to a venus pluto interaction.or like i said in my Lilith thread, lilith aspects with inner planets could involve Plutonian obsessions...venusdeindiaheres some updates, i have found on other asteroid sites.thing is the Archetype behind the planet Venus is as strong in an asteroid like Aphrodite which is Greek name for Venus. from my research so far it is clear that Archetypes like Venus and pluto work thru asteroids as strongly...heres a list of asteroids that can be substitutes for planets.(3811)- Karma - Karmic connection --- Substitute for Saturn (37452)- Spirit - spiritual connection Substitute for NeptuneJuno - committed relationships .. a higher octave of venus leading to neptune (103) Hera - Greek counterpart of Juno (77) Frigga - Norse counterpart of Juno (42) Isis - Egyptian archetypal wife and mother. Ceres - nurturing , substitute for moon(1108) Demeter - Greek version of Ceres (433) Eros - Greek God of Love (1221) Amor (16) Psyche - Eros' wife (763) Cupido - Eros's Roman counterpart Venus, archetype for Love, beauty, harmony,(499) Venusia Aphrodite - Venus' Greek counterpart (76) Freia - Venus' Norse counterpart (7088) Ishtar - Venus' Babylonian counterpart (672) Astarte - Venus' Assyrian counterpart others (1487) Boda - Spanish for Wedding (4386) Lust (4950) House - like for living together 1585) Union (306) Unitas - latin for United (868) Lova (73511) Lovas (61342) Lovejoy (74) Galatea (statue that Pygmalion made, he fell in love with it, Aphrodite brought it to life and made his wish come true) - object of one's affection (1387 Kama) - Indian god of sexual desire i think the below asteroids are like Valentine in synastry becoz of the myths involved.and from the charts io have looked in.... they do work Greek versions of Romeo and Juliet: (,) Pyramus (88) Thisbe (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry) Adulterous Lovers in Arthurian Legends: (1966) Tristan (211) Isolda (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry) (2041) Lancelot (2483) Guinevere (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry) venusdeindiathis is from another site 'Comparing Mars in one's astro chart & how it relates to certain asteroids or mini planetsgives greater definition as to how Hot & exy you are, in the mating & relating game. Also if any of these asteroids are in high profile in your chart by house/sign or aspect to venus or mars, this will contribute to relating also.This also works for composite charts. CERES: Very sensual & passionate in lovemaking, with a strong desire to satisfy both desire for oneself & the other. The heat is high & many aids may be important ie, food, oils & luxurious settings. Attachment to one partner is commen, for security & safety, yet extras could be optional. This asteroid can bring jealousy, co-dependency & often controlling behaviour( if one is insecure). VESTA: mild force of sexual expression, tends toi be focused on the inner & more mental spiritual experience of relating, rather than physical. A strong independant streak, so long as the relationship is not too distant, this could work, yet the attraction could be to one with a similar mission or path in life. Learning the Karma sutra or tantra workshops could appeal. JUNO: A passionate focus on the partner, with the urge to protect each others vulnerabilities, & a drive for equality in sexual expression. Marriage can be important for these people, due to the need for a guideline or structure& a safe long term solution, for the sexual relationship. This position is great for marriage as the sex life kepps on keeping on, no matter how long they r together. Mutual love is important for them, even betrayals & other partners may not signal the end for these. PSYCHE: The Physical expression for desire is strong here, yet of a more spiritual nature, which often relates to sexual interplay. This desire instigates relationships, & once connected continues to drive insights & growth throught the sexual relationship. Personal feelings are strongly felt & expressed physically & therefore important to have some kind of committment. Tantric sex, or sharing personal growth training or therapy could be stimulating & life transforming. SAPPHO: Strong sexual libido, accompanied by poetry, music or dirty talk. Movement or transportation could turn these on, with the back seats of cars not just for teenagers.Sexual expression of fantasies & ideals that are important for each partner, as could a need for variety, with possible experimentation with same sex genders, this placing however does not suggest identity confusuin, just versitality. EROS: Intense sexual heat & vitality. Any thing which stimulates desire, or touches on fantasy, is easily integrated, such as erotica or other sex aids. This is a regenerating asteroid, when playing the relating game. Overindulgence is possible tho, as the drive of desire can satifaction before other priorities. CUPIDO: Highly charged sexual tension in one or between two. The drive & attraction so strong that it may be uncontrollable, if not tempered with softer , more loving connections, it could drive one or two to disaster. Overall intense feelings, great, fullfilling sex. Be care about jealousy or envy, & a disregard for partners feelings. AMOR: This ones has imagination, & subtle innuedos, with romantic aids, producing a deires for physical gratification. One needs to clarify & honour boundaries with this one tho, one maybe exciting or mysterious, rather than just an extension of the self. Soft & gentle lovemaking & fantasies. APHRODITE: A dynamic drive to mate, & to consummate sexual desire with a specific partner @ certain times. If one has a magnetic or receptive partner, this can be intensly emotonal sex. There is a strong desire to connect with others even if the person is a loner. BLACK MOON LILITH: A darker & more hidden sexuality, a promise of high levels of sexual satisfactionby allowing hidden self/ fantasies to emerge in sexual expression. This one can take you to the best sex you have ever had, yet vereing toward the more positive energy of this is advised, so treat each other with respect. CHIRON: Good & comforting sex. Instinctive need to relateto others, due to ones own humanity & vulnerabilities. It can foster safety & promise trust. Tentative exploration of sexuality, authenticity & wholeness can be achieved.The emotional aspect is triggered here, so provides a very wholistic sexual experience. HYGIEA: Radiates a creative, loving & warm sexualitythat makes you feel better in the long run. Physical touch is very important, & responding to pertners nedds. Driven in the pursuit to make one feel better, regular opportunites for sexual play, consistency & regularity is important to these. Imagination & fantasy is important to, telling one what one needs is importnat, as a hesitancy is noted about speaking or asserting one's need. One needs a significant other with whom one really cares. PALLAS: Extremely sexual & responsive & sexually caing to partners. Sex is deeply transformative & regenerative & can go through certain cycles. Honour & respect is number one here. Sex & lust could take over in spontaneous busy days & nights. Profundity in sex, & sometimes sexual obsession. Both partners need to contribute, as control dampens the enthusiasm. ASTRAEA: Balanced sexuality. A time & a place for sex, & part of life with a partner. Imagination brings variety & differenceto sexual play. Make sure this creativity is used & routine is varied, as routine can be where one ends up. DIANA: Free-flowing, sensitive sexuality, with a strong need for individual expression & freedom. Making love in sheltered natural places in the open will suit diana. Initial shyness, so imagination & sensitivity to understand & cater to physical & emotional vulnerabilities will help. Music or wordscan also be halpful, & ensuring safety. belgzI dont get anyting at all! So are them interpretations for synastry when theyre making an aspect to your partners planets? Whats the interpretations for? Can someone explain it in simple form pleassssee lol Im interested but just dont get it.. Its sounds complicated------------------ASC: Virgo Sun: CancerMoon: GeminiMars: CancerMercury: CancerVenus: LeodarkdreamerVenus de India,"i think the below asteroids are like Valentine in synastry becoz of the myths involved."What do you mean by that? And how would you interprete them?Interestingly there is a really strong theme on Tristan and Isolde in my chart, Musicman`s chart, our Synastry and composite.My Natal:Tristan:conjunct Venus (2)square IC (1)square Isolde (0)opposite dr Juno (4)dr Tristan:conjunct Chiron (3)Isolde:square Venus (3)trine Mars (2)conjunct IC (1,5)opposite dr Karma (3)dr Isolde:conjunct Vertex (1,5)conjunct Eros (2)His Natal:Tristan:square Venus (3)quinkunx Isolde (1)dr Tristan:conjunct Amor (1)widely conjunct Mars (5)Isolde:trine Venus (2)dr Isolde:conjunct NN (0)So, each of us has in the Natals:- a close Tristan-Isolde - aspect- a Tristan- Venus-aspect- an Isolde - Venus - aspectSYNASTRY:my Tristan:trine his Venus (0)trine his Karma (3)quinkunx his Tristan (0)conjunct his Isolde (1)conjunct his dr Moon (0)conjunct his dr Juno (2)my dr Tristan:conjunct his ATlantis (1)conjunct his dr Pluto (1) (and my dr Venus of course)opposite his dr Chiron (0)his Tristan:trine my Amor (1)trine my Isolde (2)opposite my dr Pluto (2)his dr Tristan:conjunct my Juno (2)conjunct my dr Valentine (2)my Isolde:squrae his Isolde (1)his Isolde:conjunct my Venus (3,5)square my IC (2,5)his dr Isolde:opposite my Moon (0)sextile my Karma (0)So, we have dw`s on:- Tristan / Isolde - Tristan / Juno- Tristan / PlutoAdditionally:- my Tristan trine his Venus- his Isolde conjunct my VenusThis seems to emphasize the pattern, that is already there in the natals.COMPOSITE:Tristan trine Isolde (0) - with only 3 minutes of arc! Tristan trine Atlantis (1,5)Tristan opposite Juno (1,5)Tristan conjunct dr Saturn 82)dr Tristan conjunct Moon (0)dr Tristan conjunct Chiron (3,5)Isolde conjunct Sun (3,5)Isolde conjunct Atlantis (1,5)Isolde sextile Juno (1,5)Isolde conjunct dr Venus (4)COMPOSITE - MY NATALComposite Tristan:trine my Moon (0)trine my Karma (1,5)opposite my Chiron (2,5)opposite my dr Sun (1,5)Composite dr Tristan:conjunct my IC (0)conjunct my Isolde (0)!opposite my dr Karma (2)Composite Isolde:conjunct my Moon (0)trine my Karma (1,5)my Natal dr Tristan:conjunct Composite Juno 83,5)COMPOSITE - HIS NATALTristan:opposite his Sun (0)dr Tristan:conjunct his Mercury (3)conjunct his Eros (3)Isolde:trine his Sun (0)conjunct his SN (1,5)opposite his dr Isolde (1)dr Isolde:conjunct his Tristan (3,5)his natal Tristan:opposite Composite Mars (3)opposite dr Composite Atlantis (2)his dr Isolde:opposite Composite Isolde (1,5)opposite Composite Atlantis (1)opposite dr composite Valentine (3)Isn`t it interesting that composite Isolde is conjunct my natal Moon, while composite Tristan is opposite his natal Sun, and that Isolde and Tristan are trine in the composite?Or that composite dr Tristan conjuncts my Isolde? And that composite dr Isolde conjuncts his Tristan?What do you say to this comparision? How would you interprete it?DDvenusdeindiaBelz, for the asteroid goddesses, they are all like a higher octave of venus so u can interpret an aspect involving them as a venus aspect to the planet.as for the interpretations of the asteroids, they are for natal as well as synastry, like vesta conjunct mars could lead to an interest in Tantric sex, same for lilith. in synastry again, u have to blend the -planet and the asteroid.its like blending planets.DDwhoa, man. basically i think IF u were a couple, ur relationship would have Isolde and Tristan theme, namely adultery. i think keeping the legend in mund that either in the past or present life there is a chance of forbidden, adulterous love. what do u think ??Taurus80This is really cool venusdeindia!Just looking very quickly at some I've never used, I saw:A-Pyramus sextile VenusB-Thisbe conjunct VenusBoda conjunct Boda (I'm of spanish heritage)Composite House conjunct Eros/Juno exact.I think they look good Wow looking at the composite chart for your parents, they have House conjunct Sun/trine Jupiter darkdreamerVenus de India,Forbidden love you say?Well, he is gay, so my affection for him is kinda forbidden, isn`t it?However, I remember being on that concert, where he was, while his ex-partner (or again-partner, who knows?) was on stage, and there was actually a moment, where he, A, the partner, came from stage and was standing before him (and me, of course). Actually if you had drawn lines of our positions, sitting and standing, you would have gotten a triangle. lolI`ve had a very strange feeling that moment, not so much emotionally, but more spiritually.The weird thing is, I have had that crush on P, and of course I thought, that I would kinda "dislike" A, because he ws together with him and all that.But as much as it was painful to accept, I never disliked A. I was actually absolutely fascinated by him. THAT is irony, isn`t it? Almost like I was under some kind of spell.It`s a strange strange thing, my emotions surrounding those two men.However, I looked at the asteroids for Tristan-Isolde-Marc and Lancelot-Guinevere-Arthur for all of us.Found some interesting aspects.Me - P:my Tristan conjunct his Isoldemy Tristan trine his Venus and Karmamy Tristan conjunct his dr Moonmy Tristan conjunct his dr Junomy dr Tristan conjunct his Marcmy dr Tristan conjunct his Atlantishis Tristan trine my Amorhis Tristan trine my Isoldehis dr Tristan conjunct my Juno and dr Valentinemy Isolde squre his Isoldemy Isolde trine his Tristanhis Isolde conjunct my Venushis Isolde square my IChis Isolde conjunct my Tristanhis Isolde square my Isoldehis dr Isolde opposite my Moonmy Marc conjunct his his Venus and Karmamy Marc opposite his dr Marshis Marc conjunct my dr Venushis Marc conjunct my dr Tristanhis dr Marc conjunct my Marshis dr Mars conjunct my NNhis dr Marc conjunct my AChis dr Marc conjunct my Atlantishis dr Marc opposite my dr MoonA-p:P`s Tristan conjunct A`s KarmaP`s Tristan trine A`s AmorP`s dr Tristan conjunct A`s dr MoonA`s dr Tristan opposite P`s AtlantisA`s dr Tristan conjunct P`s dr AmorP`s Isolde conjunct A`s SunP`s dr Isolde conjunct A`s JunoA`s Isolde trine P`s MarsA`s Isolde opposite P`s Valentine and JunoP`s dr Marc conjunct A`s AmorA`s Marc opposite P`s dr Venus and dr Karma#A`s dr Marc conjunct P`s Venus and KarmaA`s dr Marc opposite p`s Marsme - A:my Tristan conjunct A`s Sunmy dr Tristan opposite A`s dr TristanA`s Tristan conjunct my NNA`s dr Tristan opposite my dr Venusmy Isolde square A`s Sunmy Isolde trine A´s Karmamy Isolde trine A`s AmorA`s Isolde trine my VertexA`s Isolde conjunct my VAlentineA`s dr Isolde conjunct my MCA`s dr Isolde conjunct my dr Karmamy Marc trine A`s Venusmy dr Marc conjunct A`s dr MarsA`s Marc conjunct my KarmaA`s dr Marc conjunct my MarcdarkdreamerNOw for the Lancelot-Guinevere-Arthur triangle:A - P:P`s Lancelot:conjunct A`s Karmatrine A`s AmorP`s dr Lancelot:conjunct A`s dr MoonA`s Lancelot:conjunct P`s Moonconjunct P`s JunoP`s Guinevere:no aspectsA`s Guinevere:trine P`s Karmatrine P`s Arthurconjunct P`s dr ValentineA`s dr Guinevereopposite P`s dr ValentineP`s ARthur:trine A`s Venustrine A`s NNconjunct A`s Arthuropposite A`s dr MOonP`s dr ARthur:conjunct A`s MoonA`s Arthur:opposite P`s Chirontrine P`s KarmaA`s dr Arthur:opposite p`s dr GuinevereME - P:my Lancelot:opposite his Moontrine his Marstrine his Amormy dr Lancelot:conjunct his ChironP`s Lancelot:trine my AmorP`s dr Lancelot:conjunct my Junoconjunct my dr Valentinemy Guinevere:trine his Karmatrine his ARthurconjunct his dr Valentinemy dr Guinevere:conjunct his Venus#opposite his dr Amorconjunct his dr ArthurP´s Guinevere:trine my Moonconjunct my Karmamy Arthur:trine his Moontrine his Junotrine his Valentinemy dr Arthur:conjunct his KarmaP`s dr ARthur:conjunct my dr Venusconjunct my dr GuinevereME - A:my Lancelot:conjunct his SNopposite his Lancelotconjunct his dr SunA`s Lancelot:square my MoonA`s dr Lancelot:conjunct my ICopposite my dr Karmamy Guinevere:conjunct his Venussquare his Marsconjunct his Guinevere exactlytrine his Arthur exactlymy dr Guinevere:conjunct his Moon (and probably ASC)his Guinevere:conjunct my Venusopposite my dr Junohis dr Guinevere:conjunct my VAlentinemy Arthur:trine his Lancelottrine his Atlantisopposite his dr Arthur (widely)my dr ARthur:conjunct his NNconjunct his dr Sunhis Arthur:trine my Guineverehis dr Arthur:conjunct my Vertexconjunct my dr ICSo, what do you say? Who was I? Who were them?DDvenusdeindiaDD, i duuno what to make of it, wow, u really have a thing for archetypes dont u ?venusdeindiaDD, i duuno what to make of it, wow, u really have a thing for archetypes dont u ?darkdreamerLOL, VDI, jip I guess I have.Especially surrounding those men.But do I dare to mention that Jude Law`s Lancelot is exactly opposite my Guinevere?orhis Guinvevere exactly conjuncts my Valentine?ormy Guinevere conjuncts his Sun?orhis Tristan opposite my Valentine and my Tristan opposite his Valentine?ormy Tristan conjuncts his Marc exactly and also conjuncts his Sun?orhis Marc conjuncts my Venus?ormy Marc trine his Sun?orhis Isolde exactly conjuncts my Sun?(his Isolde also is solstice conjunct my Tristan *Sighs*)or my Isolde exactly squares his Marc?I really don`t do that intentionally. I just happen to see all these archetypes in these synastries.Did you see that Jude`s Isolde is conjunct my Sun, while my Tristan is conjunct his Sun? Along with a Tristan-VAlentine-dw? In any other synastry I knew how to interprete that, but I refuse to even think about it in this case. lolDDAmi Anneasteroid forum
http://www.astromagik.com/astrofiles/astro-asteroids.htm
The Asteroids are like Octaves
The Asteroids are symbolic transformers between the lower octave planet and the higher octave planet. The Table below shows how the asteroids can transform the lower octave vibrations into their higher octavecorrespondences.
Each ASTEROID PAIR contains a MASCULINE and FEMININE body, each of which represents one POLE of the BI-POLAR principle. The asteroids act as a BRIDGE between lower and higher octave functions ... thereby transforming them.
As defined in MUSIC THEORY ... octaves are two notes that possess the identical harmonic structure but differ in pitch. A lower octave such as a "low C" contains a certain number of vibrations per second, the higher octave such as “high C” contains exactly twice the vibrations as the lower octave note.
Astrology, the systematic study of the music of the spheres, likewise contains its version of the octave principle ...
These planetary pairs are lower and higher octaves examples ... MERCURY-URANUS ... VENUS-NEPTUNE ... MARS-PLUTO all have similar energy patterns, but they express themselves at different vibrational levels.
Lower octave planets Mercury, Venus, and Mars represent the forces that govern personal growth and awareness.
Higher octave planets Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto — denote a more rapid, finely tuned vibration and symbolize cosmic energy that affects humanity as a whole. Their primary meaning is a speeding up of the evolutionary process of the solar system.
VENUS represents the lower octave of Love or Passion such as the love of a man or woman. This octave is raised by using PSYCHE which is the capacity to be psychically sensitive to "others" this makes you come out of "ego" ... Utilizing SAPPHO from the Isle of Lesbos which has the capacity for romantic sensitivity and the ability to love both men and women equally, this represents the end of duality ... or the beginning of WHOLENESS ... Once you are able to love both half's of yourself you no longer label humans as men or women. Now that you are whole you can use AMOR which gives the capacity for spiritual or brotherly love and compassion. This completes the bridge to NEPTUNE which represents the higher octave of LOVE ... which is the type of LOVE that GOD has for mankind.
MARS represents the lower octave of Raw Power, of Instinctive Desire ... EROS was able to refine and transform Mars' unconscious, instinctual sexual drive into erotic love as a path to spiritual illumination through his romance with Psyche ... LILITH is the Female Warrior who tames the wild beast, Lilith represents the Woman who demands to be treated equally in Relationships. If Lilith is not treated equally in personal relationships, her response will range from complete withdrawal to bickering and sexual manipulation to skillful negotiation and compromise. On the positive side, Lilith teaches us the art of consensus by which the transformative energy of MARS-PLUTO can be used to fuse rather than destroy the relationship ... TORO represents the principle of boundless strength and power and how we handle the power ... TORO describes how we confront and handle the onslaught of violent or negative influences that we experience either from without or from within our own minds ... Knowing how to turn one’s enemyinto an ally is indeed a potent power, especially when the “enemy” lies within your own being! Thus, TORO’ssecret teaching involves taming the inner power of the bull that resides in each of us and directing it for constructive purposes ... THUS completing the BRIDGE that transforms the raw, instinctive desire of MARS into the controlled, focused, and penetrating power of PLUTO. Now that MARS knows how to LOVE he is able to transform his PASSION into COMPASSION ... Now add a dash of Female DIANA who is the protector of small animals and the weak and add a dash of Male HIDALGO who is the protector of the downtrodden and poor we now have a compassionate MARS who uses his power to protect others ... through these two protectors MARS is able to TRANSFORM into the Higher Octave of JUPITER ...
SATURN represents the STATUS QUO and usually only changes by FORCE kicking and screaming "WHY ME?" ... but when you add a HEALING DOSE of CHIRON to WHERE EVER your INITIAL WOUND is ... CHIRON will make you WHOLE again, this is the end of DUALITY ... This magically transforms SATURN into a person who changes happily because he cannow SEE that the CHANGE is a natural progression and is NECESSARY ... This is how you TRANSFORM Lowly SATURN into the HIGHER VIBRATIONAL OCTAVE of .... URANUS, NEPTUNE and PLUTO — these planets denote amore rapid, finely tuned principle of KNOWLEGE ... and symbolize the COSMIC ENERGY that affects HUMANITY as a WHOLE. Their primary meaning is a speeding up of the evolutionary process of the solar system.
that is a great page!
It kind of ties in in what I was trying to do, sorting the asteroids in group. But that system was way more ... system-like.
However, I found Sappho interesting. And I thought, somehow it should figure strongly in my synastry with those two singers. Because they really inspired me.
singer P:
his Sappho exactly conjunct my Moon (only 7 minutes of arc) in Aquarius (and conjunct his own SN)his Sappho also closely trines my Karma
my Sappho:opposes his Sun
my Sappho also is the Apex-planet of a yod with his Mars in Pisces and his MOon / Juno in Taurus.
singer A:his Sappho falls into CAncer into my 8th house and makes an awful lot of aspects:
His Sappho:conjuncts my Saturnconjuncts my Erosconjuncts my Vertexopposite my Sun-Moon-mptrines my Junosquares my own Sappho
My Sappho:doesn`t make any important aspects to his chart
oh btw in my own chart Sappho is in Libra in 10th house, conjunct DNA and opposing Chiron, also squaring Eros / Saturn / Vertex / Pan / Destinn in Cancer and square the Sun/Moon-mp in Capricorn and trines Psyche.
Maybe I should start writing my poetry again.
DD
Regarding this octave theory I looked up the placements and aspects of my asteroids and planets:
WISDOM:
Mercury in Sagittarius in 1st house:conjunct Sun
Icarus in Capricorn in 2nd house:no aspects to other planets, but it exactly conjuncts Anubis, whatever that means
Pandora in Virgo in 9th house:sextile Saturnopposite Junoquinkunx Moon
Urania in Aquarius in 2nd house:conjunct Psychetrine Sappho
LOVE
Venus in CApricorn in 1st house:square Pluto / MCsolstice point Sun and Mercury
Psyche in Aquarius in 2nd house:conjunct Uraniasextile Sun and Mercurytrine Sappho
Sappho in Libra in 10th house:square Saturn / Eros / Vertexsquare Sun-Moon-mptrine Psychetrine Urania
Amor in Sagittarius in 12th house:conjunct Mars(conjunct Valentine)sextile Icarus
POWER.Mars in Sagittarius in 12th house:conjunct Amor, ASC, NN and Neptunesextile MCsquare Lilith
Eros in Cancer in 8th house:conjunct Saturn and Vertexopposite Sun-Moon-mpsquare Sapphosquare Chiron
Lilith in Virgo in 9th house:exactly trine Venussquare Mars and ASC
Toro in Scorpio in 11th house:sextile Dianatrine Jupiter
PROTECTION:
Diana in Capricorn in 2nd housesextile Jupiteropposite Saturntrine Pandora
Hidalgo in Aquarius in 2nd housewidely conjunct Icarustrine Plutosquare Uranussextile Amor and Mars
KNOWLEDGE:Saturn in Cancer in 8th house:conjunct Eros and Vertexsextile Pandoraopposite Dianatrine Junoquinkunx Moon
Chiron in Aries in 4th house:opposite Sapphosextile Moon and Urania
Well, the thing that I noticed is that a lot of these asteroids seem to occupy my 2nd house (Diana, Icarus, Hidalgo, Urania).
They also seem to figure strongly in the synastry chart with P:
His Icarus conjunct my PsycheHIs Icarus conjunct my UraniaHis Sappho conjunct my MoonHis Eros conjunct my ICHis Eros opposite my PlutoHis Diana conjunct his name in my cchartHis Amor conjunct my JunoHis Amor opposite my Pandora (0°04)His Toro conjunct my ToroMy Sappho opposite his SunMy Lilith conjunct his PlutoMy Lilith opposite his ChironMy Lilith opposite my name in his chart
Well, I always had a soft spot for poor misunderstood Lilith. Oh and now I understand - I just calculated the DRaconics placements.
Tropical Lilith conjuncts my draco nameasteroid exactly. (10 minutes)Draco Lilith conjuncts my Sun exactly (32 minutes) and also my Mercury, which is ruler of my DSC.Hmmm.....
Just looked the Sabian for my Lilith and dr name asteroid up:
PHASE 157 (VIRGO 7°): A HAREM
WHAT? This definitely is so not me, and it certainly isn`t what Lilith would want. LOL
However, the explanation seems to be more fitting.
i was thinking an aspect between a inner planet and an asteroid could actually trigger a larger aspect.
like for eg. Aphrodite/ psyche/ amor in aspect to pluto in synastry can lead to a venus pluto interaction.
or like i said in my Lilith thread, lilith aspects with inner planets could involve Plutonian obsessions...
heres a list of asteroids that can be substitutes for planets.
(3811)- Karma - Karmic connection --- Substitute for Saturn
(37452)- Spirit - spiritual connection Substitute for Neptune
Juno - committed relationships .. a higher octave of venus leading to neptune
(103) Hera - Greek counterpart of Juno (77) Frigga - Norse counterpart of Juno (42) Isis - Egyptian archetypal wife and mother.
Ceres - nurturing , substitute for moon
(1108) Demeter - Greek version of Ceres
(433) Eros - Greek God of Love (1221) Amor (16) Psyche - Eros' wife (763) Cupido - Eros's Roman counterpart
Venus, archetype for Love, beauty, harmony,
(499) Venusia Aphrodite - Venus' Greek counterpart (76) Freia - Venus' Norse counterpart (7088) Ishtar - Venus' Babylonian counterpart (672) Astarte - Venus' Assyrian counterpart
others (1487) Boda - Spanish for Wedding (4386) Lust (4950) House - like for living together 1585) Union (306) Unitas - latin for United (868) Lova (73511) Lovas (61342) Lovejoy (74) Galatea (statue that Pygmalion made, he fell in love with it, Aphrodite brought it to life and made his wish come true) - object of one's affection (1387 Kama) - Indian god of sexual desire
i think the below asteroids are like Valentine in synastry becoz of the myths involved.and from the charts io have looked in.... they do work
Greek versions of Romeo and Juliet: (,) Pyramus (88) Thisbe (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry)
Adulterous Lovers in Arthurian Legends: (1966) Tristan (211) Isolda (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry)
(2041) Lancelot (2483) Guinevere (an aspect between these 2 in a composite or synastry)
'Comparing Mars in one's astro chart & how it relates to certain asteroids or mini planetsgives greater definition as to how Hot & exy you are, in the mating & relating game. Also if any of these asteroids are in high profile in your chart by house/sign or aspect to venus or mars, this will contribute to relating also.This also works for composite charts.
CERES: Very sensual & passionate in lovemaking, with a strong desire to satisfy both desire for oneself & the other. The heat is high & many aids may be important ie, food, oils & luxurious settings. Attachment to one partner is commen, for security & safety, yet extras could be optional. This asteroid can bring jealousy, co-dependency & often controlling behaviour( if one is insecure).
VESTA: mild force of sexual expression, tends toi be focused on the inner & more mental spiritual experience of relating, rather than physical. A strong independant streak, so long as the relationship is not too distant, this could work, yet the attraction could be to one with a similar mission or path in life. Learning the Karma sutra or tantra workshops could appeal.
JUNO: A passionate focus on the partner, with the urge to protect each others vulnerabilities, & a drive for equality in sexual expression. Marriage can be important for these people, due to the need for a guideline or structure& a safe long term solution, for the sexual relationship. This position is great for marriage as the sex life kepps on keeping on, no matter how long they r together. Mutual love is important for them, even betrayals & other partners may not signal the end for these.
PSYCHE: The Physical expression for desire is strong here, yet of a more spiritual nature, which often relates to sexual interplay. This desire instigates relationships, & once connected continues to drive insights & growth throught the sexual relationship. Personal feelings are strongly felt & expressed physically & therefore important to have some kind of committment. Tantric sex, or sharing personal growth training or therapy could be stimulating & life transforming.
SAPPHO: Strong sexual libido, accompanied by poetry, music or dirty talk. Movement or transportation could turn these on, with the back seats of cars not just for teenagers.Sexual expression of fantasies & ideals that are important for each partner, as could a need for variety, with possible experimentation with same sex genders, this placing however does not suggest identity confusuin, just versitality.
EROS: Intense sexual heat & vitality. Any thing which stimulates desire, or touches on fantasy, is easily integrated, such as erotica or other sex aids. This is a regenerating asteroid, when playing the relating game. Overindulgence is possible tho, as the drive of desire can satifaction before other priorities.
CUPIDO: Highly charged sexual tension in one or between two. The drive & attraction so strong that it may be uncontrollable, if not tempered with softer , more loving connections, it could drive one or two to disaster. Overall intense feelings, great, fullfilling sex. Be care about jealousy or envy, & a disregard for partners feelings.
AMOR: This ones has imagination, & subtle innuedos, with romantic aids, producing a deires for physical gratification. One needs to clarify & honour boundaries with this one tho, one maybe exciting or mysterious, rather than just an extension of the self. Soft & gentle lovemaking & fantasies.
APHRODITE: A dynamic drive to mate, & to consummate sexual desire with a specific partner @ certain times. If one has a magnetic or receptive partner, this can be intensly emotonal sex. There is a strong desire to connect with others even if the person is a loner.
BLACK MOON LILITH: A darker & more hidden sexuality, a promise of high levels of sexual satisfactionby allowing hidden self/ fantasies to emerge in sexual expression. This one can take you to the best sex you have ever had, yet vereing toward the more positive energy of this is advised, so treat each other with respect.
CHIRON: Good & comforting sex. Instinctive need to relateto others, due to ones own humanity & vulnerabilities. It can foster safety & promise trust. Tentative exploration of sexuality, authenticity & wholeness can be achieved.The emotional aspect is triggered here, so provides a very wholistic sexual experience.
HYGIEA: Radiates a creative, loving & warm sexualitythat makes you feel better in the long run. Physical touch is very important, & responding to pertners nedds. Driven in the pursuit to make one feel better, regular opportunites for sexual play, consistency & regularity is important to these. Imagination & fantasy is important to, telling one what one needs is importnat, as a hesitancy is noted about speaking or asserting one's need. One needs a significant other with whom one really cares.
PALLAS: Extremely sexual & responsive & sexually caing to partners. Sex is deeply transformative & regenerative & can go through certain cycles. Honour & respect is number one here. Sex & lust could take over in spontaneous busy days & nights. Profundity in sex, & sometimes sexual obsession. Both partners need to contribute, as control dampens the enthusiasm.
ASTRAEA: Balanced sexuality. A time & a place for sex, & part of life with a partner. Imagination brings variety & differenceto sexual play. Make sure this creativity is used & routine is varied, as routine can be where one ends up.
DIANA: Free-flowing, sensitive sexuality, with a strong need for individual expression & freedom. Making love in sheltered natural places in the open will suit diana. Initial shyness, so imagination & sensitivity to understand & cater to physical & emotional vulnerabilities will help. Music or wordscan also be halpful, & ensuring safety.
Im interested but just dont get it.. Its sounds complicated
------------------ASC: Virgo
Sun: CancerMoon: GeminiMars: CancerMercury: CancerVenus: Leo
"i think the below asteroids are like Valentine in synastry becoz of the myths involved."What do you mean by that? And how would you interprete them?
Interestingly there is a really strong theme on Tristan and Isolde in my chart, Musicman`s chart, our Synastry and composite.
My Natal:Tristan:conjunct Venus (2)square IC (1)square Isolde (0)opposite dr Juno (4)
dr Tristan:conjunct Chiron (3)
Isolde:square Venus (3)trine Mars (2)conjunct IC (1,5)opposite dr Karma (3)
dr Isolde:conjunct Vertex (1,5)conjunct Eros (2)
His Natal:
Tristan:square Venus (3)quinkunx Isolde (1)
dr Tristan:conjunct Amor (1)widely conjunct Mars (5)
Isolde:trine Venus (2)
dr Isolde:conjunct NN (0)
So, each of us has in the Natals:- a close Tristan-Isolde - aspect- a Tristan- Venus-aspect- an Isolde - Venus - aspect
SYNASTRY:
my Tristan:trine his Venus (0)trine his Karma (3)quinkunx his Tristan (0)conjunct his Isolde (1)conjunct his dr Moon (0)conjunct his dr Juno (2)
my dr Tristan:conjunct his ATlantis (1)conjunct his dr Pluto (1) (and my dr Venus of course)opposite his dr Chiron (0)
his Tristan:trine my Amor (1)trine my Isolde (2)opposite my dr Pluto (2)
his dr Tristan:conjunct my Juno (2)conjunct my dr Valentine (2)
my Isolde:squrae his Isolde (1)
his Isolde:conjunct my Venus (3,5)square my IC (2,5)
his dr Isolde:opposite my Moon (0)sextile my Karma (0)
So, we have dw`s on:- Tristan / Isolde - Tristan / Juno- Tristan / Pluto
Additionally:- my Tristan trine his Venus- his Isolde conjunct my Venus
This seems to emphasize the pattern, that is already there in the natals.
COMPOSITE:
Tristan trine Isolde (0) - with only 3 minutes of arc! Tristan trine Atlantis (1,5)Tristan opposite Juno (1,5)Tristan conjunct dr Saturn 82)
dr Tristan conjunct Moon (0)dr Tristan conjunct Chiron (3,5)
Isolde conjunct Sun (3,5)Isolde conjunct Atlantis (1,5)Isolde sextile Juno (1,5)Isolde conjunct dr Venus (4)
COMPOSITE - MY NATAL
Composite Tristan:trine my Moon (0)trine my Karma (1,5)opposite my Chiron (2,5)opposite my dr Sun (1,5)
Composite dr Tristan:conjunct my IC (0)conjunct my Isolde (0)!opposite my dr Karma (2)
Composite Isolde:conjunct my Moon (0)trine my Karma (1,5)
my Natal dr Tristan:conjunct Composite Juno 83,5)
COMPOSITE - HIS NATALTristan:opposite his Sun (0)
dr Tristan:conjunct his Mercury (3)conjunct his Eros (3)
Isolde:trine his Sun (0)conjunct his SN (1,5)opposite his dr Isolde (1)
dr Isolde:conjunct his Tristan (3,5)
his natal Tristan:opposite Composite Mars (3)opposite dr Composite Atlantis (2)
his dr Isolde:opposite Composite Isolde (1,5)opposite Composite Atlantis (1)opposite dr composite Valentine (3)
Isn`t it interesting that composite Isolde is conjunct my natal Moon, while composite Tristan is opposite his natal Sun, and that Isolde and Tristan are trine in the composite?Or that composite dr Tristan conjuncts my Isolde? And that composite dr Isolde conjuncts his Tristan?
What do you say to this comparision? How would you interprete it?
as for the interpretations of the asteroids, they are for natal as well as synastry, like vesta conjunct mars could lead to an interest in Tantric sex, same for lilith. in synastry again, u have to blend the -planet and the asteroid.its like blending planets.
DDwhoa, man. basically i think IF u were a couple, ur relationship would have Isolde and Tristan theme, namely adultery. i think keeping the legend in mund that either in the past or present life there is a chance of forbidden, adulterous love. what do u think ??
A-Pyramus sextile VenusB-Thisbe conjunct VenusBoda conjunct Boda (I'm of spanish heritage)Composite House conjunct Eros/Juno exact.I think they look good
Wow looking at the composite chart for your parents, they have House conjunct Sun/trine Jupiter
Forbidden love you say?Well, he is gay, so my affection for him is kinda forbidden, isn`t it?
However, I remember being on that concert, where he was, while his ex-partner (or again-partner, who knows?) was on stage, and there was actually a moment, where he, A, the partner, came from stage and was standing before him (and me, of course). Actually if you had drawn lines of our positions, sitting and standing, you would have gotten a triangle. lolI`ve had a very strange feeling that moment, not so much emotionally, but more spiritually.
The weird thing is, I have had that crush on P, and of course I thought, that I would kinda "dislike" A, because he ws together with him and all that.But as much as it was painful to accept, I never disliked A. I was actually absolutely fascinated by him. THAT is irony, isn`t it? Almost like I was under some kind of spell.It`s a strange strange thing, my emotions surrounding those two men.
However, I looked at the asteroids for Tristan-Isolde-Marc and Lancelot-Guinevere-Arthur for all of us.Found some interesting aspects.
Me - P:my Tristan conjunct his Isoldemy Tristan trine his Venus and Karmamy Tristan conjunct his dr Moonmy Tristan conjunct his dr Junomy dr Tristan conjunct his Marcmy dr Tristan conjunct his Atlantis
his Tristan trine my Amorhis Tristan trine my Isoldehis dr Tristan conjunct my Juno and dr Valentine
my Isolde squre his Isoldemy Isolde trine his Tristan
his Isolde conjunct my Venushis Isolde square my IChis Isolde conjunct my Tristanhis Isolde square my Isoldehis dr Isolde opposite my Moon
my Marc conjunct his his Venus and Karmamy Marc opposite his dr Mars
his Marc conjunct my dr Venushis Marc conjunct my dr Tristanhis dr Marc conjunct my Marshis dr Mars conjunct my NNhis dr Marc conjunct my AChis dr Marc conjunct my Atlantishis dr Marc opposite my dr Moon
A-p:P`s Tristan conjunct A`s KarmaP`s Tristan trine A`s AmorP`s dr Tristan conjunct A`s dr Moon
A`s dr Tristan opposite P`s AtlantisA`s dr Tristan conjunct P`s dr Amor
P`s Isolde conjunct A`s SunP`s dr Isolde conjunct A`s Juno
A`s Isolde trine P`s MarsA`s Isolde opposite P`s Valentine and Juno
P`s dr Marc conjunct A`s Amor
A`s Marc opposite P`s dr Venus and dr Karma#A`s dr Marc conjunct P`s Venus and KarmaA`s dr Marc opposite p`s Mars
me - A:my Tristan conjunct A`s Sunmy dr Tristan opposite A`s dr Tristan
A`s Tristan conjunct my NNA`s dr Tristan opposite my dr Venus
my Isolde square A`s Sunmy Isolde trine A´s Karmamy Isolde trine A`s Amor
A`s Isolde trine my VertexA`s Isolde conjunct my VAlentineA`s dr Isolde conjunct my MCA`s dr Isolde conjunct my dr Karma
my Marc trine A`s Venusmy dr Marc conjunct A`s dr Mars
A`s Marc conjunct my KarmaA`s dr Marc conjunct my Marc
A - P:
P`s Lancelot:conjunct A`s Karmatrine A`s Amor
P`s dr Lancelot:conjunct A`s dr Moon
A`s Lancelot:conjunct P`s Moonconjunct P`s Juno
P`s Guinevere:no aspects
A`s Guinevere:trine P`s Karmatrine P`s Arthurconjunct P`s dr Valentine
A`s dr Guinevereopposite P`s dr Valentine
P`s ARthur:trine A`s Venustrine A`s NNconjunct A`s Arthuropposite A`s dr MOon
P`s dr ARthur:conjunct A`s Moon
A`s Arthur:opposite P`s Chirontrine P`s Karma
A`s dr Arthur:opposite p`s dr Guinevere
ME - P:my Lancelot:opposite his Moontrine his Marstrine his Amor
my dr Lancelot:conjunct his Chiron
P`s Lancelot:trine my Amor
P`s dr Lancelot:conjunct my Junoconjunct my dr Valentine
my Guinevere:trine his Karmatrine his ARthurconjunct his dr Valentine
my dr Guinevere:conjunct his Venus#opposite his dr Amorconjunct his dr Arthur
P´s Guinevere:trine my Moonconjunct my Karma
my Arthur:trine his Moontrine his Junotrine his Valentinemy dr Arthur:conjunct his Karma
P`s dr ARthur:conjunct my dr Venusconjunct my dr Guinevere
ME - A:
my Lancelot:conjunct his SNopposite his Lancelotconjunct his dr Sun
A`s Lancelot:square my Moon
A`s dr Lancelot:conjunct my ICopposite my dr Karma
my Guinevere:conjunct his Venussquare his Marsconjunct his Guinevere exactlytrine his Arthur exactly
my dr Guinevere:conjunct his Moon (and probably ASC)
his Guinevere:conjunct my Venusopposite my dr Juno
his dr Guinevere:conjunct my VAlentine
my Arthur:trine his Lancelottrine his Atlantisopposite his dr Arthur (widely)
my dr ARthur:conjunct his NNconjunct his dr Sun
his Arthur:trine my Guinevere
his dr Arthur:conjunct my Vertexconjunct my dr IC
So, what do you say? Who was I? Who were them?
I really don`t do that intentionally. I just happen to see all these archetypes in these synastries.Did you see that Jude`s Isolde is conjunct my Sun, while my Tristan is conjunct his Sun? Along with a Tristan-VAlentine-dw? In any other synastry I knew how to interprete that, but I refuse to even think about it in this case. lol
Copyright 2000-2024 Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000 Ultimate Bulletin Board Version 5.46a
Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000 Ultimate Bulletin Board Version 5.46a