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asclibrasagsun | My friend has Virgo on the 5th house cusp, Uranus in the 5th house, Uranus in Virgo, and Uranus conjunct pluto as well as Pluto in the 5th house cusp. Could this indicate why she never had children? That she was unable to? |
I'm so cappy | She's your friend. Can't you just ask her? ------------------ Do you have some chocolate? |
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asclibrasagsun | Trying to figure out if these aspects and placements cause infertility in general! |
asclibrasagsun | Virgo is a barren sign and being on the cusp of the 5th house that would make sense |
I'm so cappy | I'm sorry then. I thought you were trying to secretly figure out the reason. ------------------ Do you have some chocolate? |
asclibrasagsun | quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: I'm sorry then. I thought you were trying to secretly figure out the reason.
No it is just that this is an astrology forum, we are trying to put placements together with real life. Its ok |
hikoro | quote: Originally posted by asclibrasagsun: Virgo is a barren sign and being on the cusp of the 5th house that would make sense
many taurus asc will have virgo in the 5th house cusp.... i dont think this aspect alone can cause infertility however...ive read it can mean: twins. lol
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I'm so cappy | Maybe this Uranus will result in an unexpected pregnancy sooner or later? Pluto...perhaps the situation she's in is meant to transform her in some way...make her really appreciate motherhood and be as best mother as possible if it happens? ------------------ Do you have some chocolate? |
SaturnineMoth | (I'd rather see the chart before responding, but...) Virgo in the 5th doesn't make someone infertile/barren, Virgo is a fertility sign (see the sheaths of grain in her arms in the constellation that the sign comes from, this is why she is being pushed forward in neoastrology to be ruled by fellow dwarf planet Ceres, the mother and agricultural goddess), also, the ruler of the 5th in some formula is said to determine the outcome of... well, production - reproduction. Another thing, Uranus and Pluto are symbiotic when in conjunction, Uranus exalts under Plutos rule and Uranus is "spontaneous creation/creativity/birth/chaos" ~ as well as destruction/recreation cycle. difficulty to procreate could be tied to the placement and aspects of the 5th house ruler, and furthermore the natural ruler of the 5th and placements under its sign (Sun/Leo). It can also possibly be shown that birth/creative endeavors of any kind are related to the this house, not just offspring... so even using the formula, it may end up showing she had children where she did not... but that the children it shows are either something she created by hand and mind, or adopted like siblings, pets, or even actual adopted children... but they don't need to be living things that are created in that house's domain... 5th house is also ruler of talents, performance, art, hobbies, pleasures... So you could say, it is not possible to fully discover that she will/or why she hasn't had children by using astrology so much as determining the possibilities to whether she could or has created something. And, again... without seeing the chart, there's not too much that can be understood by having Virgo on the cusp without knowing the ruler's aspects (condition) to other parts/planets and seeing/knowing what those other parts are governed by or rule themselves. Really need to see the chart.... ; ; Sorry. My exstepmother could never bare children, she miscarried twice... but her 5th still had her children "in it"... (so to speak.) Her pets, and likely two representing even lil' ol me and my sister-best friend... but, you wouldn't see that by the state of her 5th house, but the ruler of her 5th using that formula is fairly accurate in my experience so far. Her greatest loves and creations all had 4 legs or scales... lol (well, except for me and my best friend who she mothered as well.) ^^; (I don't know why Virgo gets this negative word attached to it, it denies the history, the mythology of the sign itself... and I imagine it comes from the same place that Virgo = virginity comes from.) :/ just one of those things, I guess. But, if you can chart out her 5th house ruler and look for any aspects it makes. And, possibly do the same for her (4th) Sun. that could probably shine some light onto everything. ^^ Couldn't hurt to try it out, right!?~ <3 |
asclibrasagsun | quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: Maybe this Uranus will result in an unexpected pregnancy sooner or later? Pluto...perhaps the situation she's in is meant to transform her in some way...make her really appreciate motherhood and be as best mother as possible if it happens?
impossible, she is way past childbearing age.
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asclibrasagsun | quote: Originally posted by hikoro: many taurus asc will have virgo in the 5th house cusp.... i dont think this aspect alone can cause infertility however...ive read it can mean: twins. lol
she has gemini asc though |
joyrjw | I'm 36 years old and never had children. I wanted children for years but never had the chance. Then I married a man who couldn't make children. How ironic, right? Now I've decided that I don't want children at all. :-P I have Libra on my 5th house cusp. Using equal house I have Uranus,Sun,Mercury,Mars all in Scorpio all 5th house. |
joyrjw | So I'm thinking that maybe uranus has something to do with your friend not ever having conceived. I have uranus there too. Just a thought. |
joyrjw | I just now found this link on uranus in the fifth house http://astrolibrary.org/ebooks/crowley-58.html |
Chirp | quote: Originally posted by asclibrasagsun: My friend has Virgo on the 5th house cusp, Uranus in the 5th house, Uranus in Virgo, and Uranus conjunct pluto as well as Pluto in the 5th house cusp.Could this indicate why she never had children? That she was unable to?
I don't think you can see this in a chart. Plenty of people have astro-indicators that say they'll have more kids than the old lady in the shoe, but they never have children, and vice-versa.
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greatquincunx | Try vedic astrology. They have a certain divisional that would shed light on fertility and also if she wanted them in the first place. I would not put any weight on the outer planets. I have pluto in the 11th house and its description is laughable. Maybe you could check her 5th house ruler and the aspects hitting it. |
asclibrasagsun | quote: Originally posted by joyrjw: So I'm thinking that maybe uranus has something to do with your friend not ever having conceived. I have uranus there too. Just a thought.
Oh Wow ok! Very interesting |
asclibrasagsun | quote: Originally posted by joyrjw: I just now found this link on uranus in the fifth house http://astrolibrary.org/ebooks/crowley-58.html
BIG LOL at the first section of the article! So Uranian but yes this seems accurate |