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T O P I C R E V I E WpresnyaI have a love interest and what i have noticed in our synastry chart is that my venus is conjuncting her south node (6 degrees) and chiron (3 degrees), all in her 5th house. My North Node is in her 8th house in Cancer, while her North Node is in my 2nd house in Scorpio, loosely conjoining my Moon at 9 degrees. I have heard that in Karmic Astrology orbs tend to count even if theyre wide. (feel free to write your opinion about that).aspects:my Venus conjunct her Chiron (3 degrees)my Venus opposite her Venus (exact)my Venus opposite her Uranus (7 degrees)my Venus opposite her Mars (6 degrees)my Chiron sextile her Venus (1 degree)my Mars sextile her Venus (2 degrees)my Uranus trine her Venus (3 degrees)We also have Nodal squares:my Neptune square her Node (4 degrees)my Node square her Sun (4 degrees)my Node square her Pluto (5 degrees)my Node square her Moon (6 degrees)Saturn aspects:my Moon square her Saturn (exact)my Saturn quincunx her North Node (2 degrees)my Sun sextile her Saturn (exact)my Saturn trine her Sun (3 degrees)My Saturn is in exact conjunction to her Descendant In the Composite Chart:Moon in the 12h house conjunct asteroid Karma (3811) in Libra (exact)Since this is a same-sex attraction, idk if it would count adding the asteroid Sappho to the whole thing. Still, i did calculate it and saw that her Sappho is also conjuncting my Venus and in conjunction to her South Node, too. anything indicating a past life connection?RandallWelcome! Moving this to Interpersonal Astrology.presnyaanyone? LaceyLeighCould you post the synastry charts from Astro.com?presnyahttps://imgur.com/a/YoKXzMxHere are both synastry and composite chartsGrahamMy guess is that ... in a past life ... she was your much-loved older (and wiser) female servant/slave, over whom you had the power of life and death.And ... in this lifetime ... the two of you are learning to relate together as much-loved equals.If so ... the challenge might be that (in the past life) she raised you as a substitute-mother, thus creating a subconscious barrier to the two of you interacting as lovers (in the current lifetime) - perhaps manifesting as age-gaps; cultural differences or/and a "disapproving" social circle/environment.presnyajust by the way, im red and the other is blueGraham quote:Originally posted by presnya:just by the way, im red and the other is blueSo ... you are some 25 years younger than her, and born into a different culture?Would either of your social circles disapprove of the two of you being an "item"/couple?presnyaGraham, well i rarely talk about my feelings but so no one knows and she doesnt either. i wanted to know if it would be a possible past life connection because idk its just a feeling i have some sort of "familiar" feeling that just drains me most of the timeGraham quote:Originally posted by presnya:Graham, well i rarely talk about my feelings but so no one knows and she doesnt either. i wanted to know if it would be a possible past life connection because idk its just a feeling i have some sort of "familiar" feeling that just drains me most of the timeI have no doubt that there is a past life connection between the two of you.Best wishes for the future of this potential relationship, presnya.presnya quote:Originally posted by Graham: I have no doubt that there is a past life connection between the two of you.Best wishes for the future of this potential relationship, presnya.Thank you so much for your help, best wishes for you Stoika7Hi presnya,I'm looking at the Composite. The stellium with Sun/Juno conunct MC and square Pluto is really intense and looks like longtime committment, and North Node trine to the Uranus/Neptune midpoint can give strong soulmate feelings and psychic/spiritual connection. The problem is that the big picture is challenged by the Saturn/Neptune opposition, so I'm wondering if this is a long distance connection or if there are major life circumstances preventing the relationship getting off the ground. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Saturn, which looks very binding and long lasting, but again with the opposition to Neptune there's a big question mark about their future... Moon in 12th house is also a very karmic and intense aspect emotionally, but sometimes can also suggest an unattainable situation. Vertex opposite Mars looks also a bit challening as there may be a fated element between them. The Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Uranus, this may suggest love at first sight.In synastry, her Nodes are square to your Neptune and Saturn is opposite to your Neptune and square to your Moon, so if there are no external challenges, it's possible that she doesn't have mutual feelings, or a strong trait of indecisiveness on her side is present. In any case, the nodal contacts look very karmic in this connection and there's an unsolved element.presnya quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:Hi presnya,I'm looking at the Composite. The stellium with Sun/Juno conunct MC and square Pluto is really intense and looks like longtime committment, and North Node trine to the Uranus/Neptune midpoint can give strong soulmate feelings and psychic/spiritual connection. The problem is that the big picture is challenged by the Saturn/Neptune opposition, so I'm wondering if this is a long distance connection or if there are major life circumstances preventing the relationship getting off the ground. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Saturn, which looks very binding and long lasting, but again with the opposition to Neptune there's a big question mark about their future... Moon in 12th house is also a very karmic and intense aspect emotionally, but sometimes can also suggest an unattainable situation. Vertex opposite Mars looks also a bit challening as there may be a fated element between them. The Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Uranus, this may suggest love at first sight.In synastry, her Nodes are square to your Neptune and Saturn is opposite to your Neptune and square to your Moon, so if there are no external challenges, it's possible that she doesn't have mutual feelings, or a strong trait of indecisiveness on her side is present. In any case, the nodal contacts look very karmic in this connection and there's an unsolved element.Yeah i know, she probably doesnt feel the same. but its so consuming for me, im wondering if im emotionally indebted to her? maybe i did her wrong in a past life?Stoika7Composite Pluto square to Sun/Juno looks overwhelming and consuming, actually. I can't say if you did her wrong, but your Venus attached to her Chiron opposite to her Venus may be unsettling, and the composite Chiron and South Node in the 4th house may suggest abandonment or a challenging environment/circumstance hindering the connection.Graham quote:Originally posted by presnya: Yeah i know, she probably doesnt feel the same. but its so consuming for me, im wondering if im emotionally indebted to her? maybe i did her wrong in a past life?You did not wrong her in the past lifetime ... but the times/culture created circumstances in which the two of you could never equals.In the current lifetime, these circumstances are likely to be recreated ... via the age-gap, cultural differences and social disapproval of an intimate relationship between the two of you.So ... note how those current circumstances are actually just "glass walls" in the western world of today, but would have been insurmountable obstacles in the world/environment of the past life shared by the two of you. ... THEN, the outcome was not under the control of you and her - but NOW it is 100% dependent upon how each of you decides to exercise your free will.GrahamQuestion for StoikaThe natal Venus of presna is in a 179 degree opposition to that of her potential partner. ... So, does the "150 rule" apply to their composite Venus - and (if yes) how does that affect the interpretation of that composite Venus?presnya quote:Originally posted by Graham: You did not wrong her in the past lifetime ... but the times/culture created circumstances in which the two of you could never equals.In the current lifetime, these circumstances are likely to be recreated ... via the age-gap, cultural differences and social disapproval of an intimate relationship between the two of you.So ... note how those current circumstances are actually just "glass walls" in the western world of today, but would have been insurmountable obstacles in the world/environment of the past life shared by the two of you. ... THEN, the outcome was not under the control of you and her - but NOW it is 100% dependent upon how each of you decides to exercise your free will.so more of a forbidden romance kind of thing, something that was taboo of some sort for other people. i see her as my secret love/crush since i have never talked about her to anyone and even if its non reciprocal my feelings still stand and i really feel this fuzzy caring feeling, very cuteGraham quote:Originally posted by presnya: so more of a forbidden romance kind of thing, something that was taboo of some sort for other people. i see her as my secret love/crush since i have never talked about her to anyone and even if its non reciprocal my feelings still stand and i really feel this fuzzy caring feeling, very cuteI imagine it as a slave (her) in Ancient Egypt, who raised the child (you) of her owners. So, it was not possible for them to (openly) pursue the love which developed between them as/when the child became an adult. But the bond/relationship was always one of mutual love and respect.Hence ... I'd expect her biggest concerns about having a relationship with you in this lifetime to be expressed as "I am old enough to be your mother", "we are from different backgrounds/cultures" , "my friends/family would blank me" and "your family/friends would 'kill' me".presnya quote:Originally posted by Graham: I imagine it as a slave (her) in Ancient Egypt, who raised the child (you) of her owners. So, it was not possible for them to (openly) pursue the love which developed between them as/when the child became an adult. But the bond/relationship was always one of mutual love and respect.Hence ... I'd expect her biggest concerns about having a relationship with you in this lifetime to be expressed as "I am old enough to be your mother", "we are from different backgrounds/cultures" , "my friends/family would blank me" and "your family/friends would 'kill' me".well we were likely both women in a past life, other than the age gap, could it be because of the same sex attraction? since homosexual relationships werent taken very well at that time and people were even killed for it, she has Sappho conjunct the South Node 5th house in her natal chart Graham quote:Originally posted by presnya: well we were likely both women in a past life, other than the age gap, could it be because of the same sex attraction? since homosexual relationships werent taken very well at that time and people were even killed for it, she has Sappho conjunct the South Node 5th house in her natal chart Yes. ... A combination of age-gap; same-sex attraction; cultural differences or/and anything else that one or more people in your social circles might regard as taboo.RandallBump!
aspects:
my Venus conjunct her Chiron (3 degrees)my Venus opposite her Venus (exact)my Venus opposite her Uranus (7 degrees)my Venus opposite her Mars (6 degrees)my Chiron sextile her Venus (1 degree)my Mars sextile her Venus (2 degrees)my Uranus trine her Venus (3 degrees)
We also have Nodal squares:my Neptune square her Node (4 degrees)my Node square her Sun (4 degrees)my Node square her Pluto (5 degrees)my Node square her Moon (6 degrees)
Saturn aspects:my Moon square her Saturn (exact)my Saturn quincunx her North Node (2 degrees)my Sun sextile her Saturn (exact)my Saturn trine her Sun (3 degrees)My Saturn is in exact conjunction to her Descendant
In the Composite Chart:Moon in the 12h house conjunct asteroid Karma (3811) in Libra (exact)
Since this is a same-sex attraction, idk if it would count adding the asteroid Sappho to the whole thing. Still, i did calculate it and saw that her Sappho is also conjuncting my Venus and in conjunction to her South Node, too. anything indicating a past life connection?
Here are both synastry and composite charts
And ... in this lifetime ... the two of you are learning to relate together as much-loved equals.
If so ... the challenge might be that (in the past life) she raised you as a substitute-mother, thus creating a subconscious barrier to the two of you interacting as lovers (in the current lifetime) - perhaps manifesting as age-gaps; cultural differences or/and a "disapproving" social circle/environment.
quote:Originally posted by presnya:just by the way, im red and the other is blue
So ... you are some 25 years younger than her, and born into a different culture?
Would either of your social circles disapprove of the two of you being an "item"/couple?
quote:Originally posted by presnya:Graham, well i rarely talk about my feelings but so no one knows and she doesnt either. i wanted to know if it would be a possible past life connection because idk its just a feeling i have some sort of "familiar" feeling that just drains me most of the time
I have no doubt that there is a past life connection between the two of you.
Best wishes for the future of this potential relationship, presnya.
quote:Originally posted by Graham: I have no doubt that there is a past life connection between the two of you.Best wishes for the future of this potential relationship, presnya.
Thank you so much for your help, best wishes for you
I'm looking at the Composite. The stellium with Sun/Juno conunct MC and square Pluto is really intense and looks like longtime committment, and North Node trine to the Uranus/Neptune midpoint can give strong soulmate feelings and psychic/spiritual connection. The problem is that the big picture is challenged by the Saturn/Neptune opposition, so I'm wondering if this is a long distance connection or if there are major life circumstances preventing the relationship getting off the ground. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Saturn, which looks very binding and long lasting, but again with the opposition to Neptune there's a big question mark about their future... Moon in 12th house is also a very karmic and intense aspect emotionally, but sometimes can also suggest an unattainable situation. Vertex opposite Mars looks also a bit challening as there may be a fated element between them. The Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Uranus, this may suggest love at first sight.In synastry, her Nodes are square to your Neptune and Saturn is opposite to your Neptune and square to your Moon, so if there are no external challenges, it's possible that she doesn't have mutual feelings, or a strong trait of indecisiveness on her side is present. In any case, the nodal contacts look very karmic in this connection and there's an unsolved element.
quote:Originally posted by Stoika7:Hi presnya,I'm looking at the Composite. The stellium with Sun/Juno conunct MC and square Pluto is really intense and looks like longtime committment, and North Node trine to the Uranus/Neptune midpoint can give strong soulmate feelings and psychic/spiritual connection. The problem is that the big picture is challenged by the Saturn/Neptune opposition, so I'm wondering if this is a long distance connection or if there are major life circumstances preventing the relationship getting off the ground. The Juno/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct Saturn, which looks very binding and long lasting, but again with the opposition to Neptune there's a big question mark about their future... Moon in 12th house is also a very karmic and intense aspect emotionally, but sometimes can also suggest an unattainable situation. Vertex opposite Mars looks also a bit challening as there may be a fated element between them. The Venus/Mars midpoint is conjunct Uranus, this may suggest love at first sight.In synastry, her Nodes are square to your Neptune and Saturn is opposite to your Neptune and square to your Moon, so if there are no external challenges, it's possible that she doesn't have mutual feelings, or a strong trait of indecisiveness on her side is present. In any case, the nodal contacts look very karmic in this connection and there's an unsolved element.
Yeah i know, she probably doesnt feel the same. but its so consuming for me, im wondering if im emotionally indebted to her? maybe i did her wrong in a past life?
quote:Originally posted by presnya: Yeah i know, she probably doesnt feel the same. but its so consuming for me, im wondering if im emotionally indebted to her? maybe i did her wrong in a past life?
You did not wrong her in the past lifetime ... but the times/culture created circumstances in which the two of you could never equals.
In the current lifetime, these circumstances are likely to be recreated ... via the age-gap, cultural differences and social disapproval of an intimate relationship between the two of you.
So ... note how those current circumstances are actually just "glass walls" in the western world of today, but would have been insurmountable obstacles in the world/environment of the past life shared by the two of you. ... THEN, the outcome was not under the control of you and her - but NOW it is 100% dependent upon how each of you decides to exercise your free will.
The natal Venus of presna is in a 179 degree opposition to that of her potential partner. ... So, does the "150 rule" apply to their composite Venus - and (if yes) how does that affect the interpretation of that composite Venus?
quote:Originally posted by Graham: You did not wrong her in the past lifetime ... but the times/culture created circumstances in which the two of you could never equals.In the current lifetime, these circumstances are likely to be recreated ... via the age-gap, cultural differences and social disapproval of an intimate relationship between the two of you.So ... note how those current circumstances are actually just "glass walls" in the western world of today, but would have been insurmountable obstacles in the world/environment of the past life shared by the two of you. ... THEN, the outcome was not under the control of you and her - but NOW it is 100% dependent upon how each of you decides to exercise your free will.
so more of a forbidden romance kind of thing, something that was taboo of some sort for other people. i see her as my secret love/crush since i have never talked about her to anyone and even if its non reciprocal my feelings still stand and i really feel this fuzzy caring feeling, very cute
quote:Originally posted by presnya: so more of a forbidden romance kind of thing, something that was taboo of some sort for other people. i see her as my secret love/crush since i have never talked about her to anyone and even if its non reciprocal my feelings still stand and i really feel this fuzzy caring feeling, very cute
I imagine it as a slave (her) in Ancient Egypt, who raised the child (you) of her owners. So, it was not possible for them to (openly) pursue the love which developed between them as/when the child became an adult. But the bond/relationship was always one of mutual love and respect.
Hence ... I'd expect her biggest concerns about having a relationship with you in this lifetime to be expressed as "I am old enough to be your mother", "we are from different backgrounds/cultures" , "my friends/family would blank me" and "your family/friends would 'kill' me".
quote:Originally posted by Graham: I imagine it as a slave (her) in Ancient Egypt, who raised the child (you) of her owners. So, it was not possible for them to (openly) pursue the love which developed between them as/when the child became an adult. But the bond/relationship was always one of mutual love and respect.Hence ... I'd expect her biggest concerns about having a relationship with you in this lifetime to be expressed as "I am old enough to be your mother", "we are from different backgrounds/cultures" , "my friends/family would blank me" and "your family/friends would 'kill' me".
well we were likely both women in a past life, other than the age gap, could it be because of the same sex attraction? since homosexual relationships werent taken very well at that time and people were even killed for it, she has Sappho conjunct the South Node 5th house in her natal chart
quote:Originally posted by presnya: well we were likely both women in a past life, other than the age gap, could it be because of the same sex attraction? since homosexual relationships werent taken very well at that time and people were even killed for it, she has Sappho conjunct the South Node 5th house in her natal chart
Yes. ... A combination of age-gap; same-sex attraction; cultural differences or/and anything else that one or more people in your social circles might regard as taboo.
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