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Topic: What, Astrologically, could make a person assume that others are enemies?
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StrandedSaturn Knowflake Posts: 138 From: Death Valley, CA Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 01, 2018 12:50 PM
What do you think, Astrologically, could make a person believe that others are enemies but they are often wrong about it. Like they feel threatened or they just treat others like enemies even if they aren't really. Their intuition, basically, is always on and on overdrive. What placements or planets or aspects come to mind? Like even if there isn't any evidence. The person goes into all situations believing that others are possible threats. Even if they barely know the person or even never met the person. They go about life in a skeptical way and assume others are a threat. What, astrologically, may indicate this? IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3779 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 01, 2018 01:59 PM
Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.
------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty Knowflake Posts: 925 From: Registered: Nov 2017
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posted June 01, 2018 02:15 PM
8th house placements. Sun and Mercury in 8th house. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4651 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 02:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.
Like sun square mars. Is this aspect quite rare in natals? IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4651 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 02:59 PM
what about venus conjunct mars and uranus when they act like they hate the world and cuss at every driver lolIP: Logged |
Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 1084 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted June 01, 2018 03:16 PM
Pluto in 7th. Ask any native IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4697 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 03:26 PM
This would be my husband. Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women.. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon Knowflake Posts: 4651 From: Jupiter Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 03:31 PM
lol IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 6940 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted June 01, 2018 04:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lalafortunaea: Pluto in 7th. Ask any native
Agreed. I have this. Scorpio Moon is another that is quite suspicious of others.Moon/Pluto too. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight Knowflake Posts: 212 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted June 01, 2018 04:11 PM
Scorpio 11th house with hard aspects to 11th house ruler (Saturn/Merc)IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 04:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: Asc/Sun/Moon/Mercury in stressful aspect with Mars/Pluto.
i know someone with moon (dispositor of sun-mercury, moon) square mars (dispositor of mercury), ruler of ascendant (jupiter) square pluto and yes, he can be totally paranoid, seen enemies everywhere.
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nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 04:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by capricorncheriscty: 8th house placements. Sun and Mercury in 8th house.
yes, my example above have many planets in 8th IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 04:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: This would be my husband. Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women..
projectiion, he does not own his pluto energie and project it in women around him
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nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 04:09 AM
I would add that there must be (in addition to the plutonian quality) somehow a lack of objectivity in the chart (like lack of air) or mercury in water.I have mercury-moon square pluto and I can be very suspicious of people's motives. However, my mercury-moon are in gemini and mercury is the final dispositor of my chart. this strong gemini flair makes me more objective and detached when analyzing my own projections and perception of people. however, if the square were in mercury cancer the story will be different as the mercury cancer will believe their own percepcion as reality... so.. the pluto quality adds suspiciousness, but it needs to be reinforced by other themes in chart to make people think others are enemies. IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 551 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted June 02, 2018 04:17 AM
Kannon is right. Not ashamshed to admit I see others as enemies. I'd rather say I'm naturally very distrusting of people in general and it takes me a long time to open up. I will die for my loved ones and if I consider you family there's nothing I won't do for you. With this said I have a rough exterior and skeptical outlook on the world so don't take it personally if I keep my distance.Scorpio Rising Pluto in 1st Sun Square Pluto Sun Trine Ascendant Moon and Mercury Opposite Mars Venus Sextile Pluto IP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher unregistered
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posted June 02, 2018 04:20 AM
Sounds like a shadow Scorpio, or a Scorpio who has been bullied so badly, he doesn't trust anyone anymore.IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4697 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 02, 2018 05:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by nordicsoul: [QUOTE]Originally posted by charlie: [b]This would be my husband. Pluto 7H op Asc/Venus Not only is he paranoid but he attracts sh1t-head individuals! There’s always some type of drama around him :-/ Usually with women..
projectiion, he does not own his pluto energie and project it in women around him[/B][/QUOTE]EXACTLY!!! Solution?? IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 07:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: EXACTLY!!! Solution??
hahaha.. Charlie!!! you may want to point out whenever he has those plutonian people in his life, maybe as a joke. i do not know how you tend to relate, but with someone with similar pattern i said one "you complain about intense women, but why do you think you attract intense women if there is nothing there inside you that resonates with intensity"... and leave it like that...another day you strike something else... it is a way to prompt awareness. first thing to own a planet energy is to become conscious that WE have that energy even if we do not behave as we had it. it is the first step.. if he accepts that, at least consciously, then he can start looking at his deep fears and need for manipulation and all the things plutonians you know. to give an example i have neptune in 7th. i tend to project it rather than own it, but for the last few years (being aware of my own projections) i have become more neptunian (helped by some transit of neptune to my personal planets)... still i am projecting, but less i would say IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 07:38 AM
and.. i would say that when sun transits pluto, lichting it, it is good time to bring awareness. a good time to drop one smart comment about his plutonian energy...LOLIP: Logged |
pocketrocket Knowflake Posts: 217 From: Italy Registered: May 2017
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posted June 02, 2018 07:54 AM
living proof: Merc sq Pluto. 8th house. Not only you assume that someone is an enemy - you attract them! IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4697 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted June 02, 2018 05:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by nordicsoul: and.. i would say that when sun transits pluto, lichting it, it is good time to bring awareness. a good time to drop one smart comment about his plutonian energy...LOL
Goody! I'll aim for the next eclipse.....BAM! Poor guy won't know what hit him LOL IP: Logged |
nordicsoul Knowflake Posts: 1870 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 05:55 PM
I hope he is not reading this thread... lolIP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 72975 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 02, 2018 11:53 PM
THe asteroid Nemesis. Conj the Moon--women may turn out to enemies, conj the Sun--men etc. I should do an article on it lol------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 107893 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 06, 2018 09:20 PM
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Somna7H Knowflake Posts: 801 From: East India Company Registered: Apr 2018
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posted June 06, 2018 10:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: THe asteroid Nemesis. Conj the Moon--women may turn out to enemies, conj the Sun--men etc. I should do an article on it lol
Should I keep away from Women ? 🙀 My Nemesis at 1° in Cancer 2nd house. Nemesis conjunct Moon and Venus, Trine Jupiter, Inconjunct Uranus. http://imgur.com/Tgw6POI
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