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Topic: Tell me ur Natal and Synastry Midpoint aspects
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 03, 2014 07:32 PM
I shall practice interpreting these. Wanna know real quick? www.astrowin.org has it allIP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 03, 2014 08:26 PM
I haven't looked at midpoints in synastry much but can you let me know if you think any of these might be worthwhile? I'll only post conjunctions within 2 orb that I think seem meaningful. Don't have his TOB so am limited on moon/angles, etc on his end. Thanks for looking!His sun/merc mp conjunct my Asc His sun/lillith mp conjunct my valentine His sun/saturn mp conjunct my name in his chart His merc/jupiter mp conjunct my boda His venus/pluto mp conjunct my eros (that's gotta be a good one!) His venus/node mp conjunct my name in my chart His venus/jupiter mp conjunct my Asc His merc/saturn mp conjunct my Asc His venus/mars mp conjunct my POF (3 orb so not sure about that one) His venus/uranus mp conjunct my uranus His venus/chiron mp conjunct my Asc His mars/uranus mp conjunct my kaali His mars/chiron mp conjunct my s node His mars/pluto mp conjunct my destinn/vertex His mars/node mp conjunct my sun His mars/jupiter mp conjunct my ceres His jupiter/pluto mp conjunct my sun/moon mp exact His saturn/pluto mp conjunct my N node His saturn/uranus mp conjunct my MC His jupiter/node mp conjunct my IC His uranus/pluto mp conjunct my venus His uranus/node mp conjunct my karma His lillith/node mp conjunct my venus IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 03, 2014 08:53 PM
Mine to his. My TOB is correct My sun/merc mp conjunct his valentine My sun/mars mp conjunct his name in his chart My moon/merc mp conjunct my sun/moon mp conjunct my mercury/jupiter mp conjunct HIS jupiter/pluto mp! Interesting one! My moon/neptune mp conjunct his saturn My moon/lillith mp conjunct his union My moon/node mp conjunct his sun exact My moon/MC mp conjunct his saturn My mercury/uranus mp conjunct his ceres My mercury/saturn mp conjunct his NN & my DSC My mercury/node mp conjunct his vesta My venus/vertex mp conjunct his pluto My venus/saturn mp conjunct his karma My venus/pluto mp conjunct his juno (3 orb) My venus/node mp conjunct his lust My mars/pluto mp conjunct his N node & my DSC My mars/Asc mp conjunct his union My jupiter/node mp conjunct his sun My jupiter/MC mp conjunct his saturn My jupiter/uranus mp conjunct his S node My saturn/node conjunct his juno exact My saturn neptune mp conjunct his vesta My saturn/vertex conjunct his karma My uranus/neptune mp conjunct his psyche My pluto/POF mp conjunct his valentine My pluto/vertex mp conjunct his juno My chiron/node mp conjunct his saturn exact My lillith/MC mp conjunct his S node My node/vertex conjunct his lillith My node/POF mp conjunct his uranus My POF/vertex mp conjunct his NN (4 orbs/ maybe too wide to count) My POF/MC mp conjunct his chiron exact My Asc/MC mp conjuncts our davison juno exact. No idea if that's worthy! There are more...but I don't want to hog the thread IP: Logged |
Orange Knowflake Posts: 7718 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 03, 2014 08:54 PM
great info IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 03, 2014 09:32 PM
no more than 1orb IntuitiveJ. Sorry! :[ Can u edit it out?IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 03, 2014 09:40 PM
Yes let me go back & look :-)IP: Logged |
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posted June 03, 2014 09:42 PM
Ill do this tomorrow, ya know when I actually got a keyboard IP: Logged |
IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 03, 2014 10:38 PM
Edited to one orb or less :-)His to mine Sun/merc on my ASC (which conjunct his SN) Sun/saturn on my name in his chart Sun/lillith on my valentine (his eros) Sun/neptune on my lust (missed that one last time) Sun/pluto on my MC Mercury/jupiter on my boda Venus/node on my name in my chart Mercury/saturn on my ASC Venus/pluto on my eros Venus/uranus on my uranus Venus/chiron on my ASC Mars/jupiter on my Psyche (confused psyche with ceres last time!) Mars/node on my sun Mars/pluto on my destinn Jupiter /pluto on my sun/moon mp Jupiter/node on my IC Saturn/pluto on my NN Saturn/uranus on my MC Uranus/node on my karma Lillith/node on my venus Mine to his- one orb or less Sun/merc on his valentine Sun/uranus on his ceres Sun/pluto on his uranus Moon/mercury & sun/moon mp on his jupiter pluto mp Moon/node on his sun Mercury/pluto on his uranus Mercury/node on his vesta Mercury/saturn on his NN (my DSC) Venus/vertex on his pluto Mars/pluto on his NN Jupiter/node on my name in his chart (his sun/saturn mp) Saturn/node on his juno Saturn/neptune on his vesta Saturn/uranus on his pluto Saturn/MC on his vesta Uranus/chiron on his S node Uranus/pluto on his lust Uranus/node on his destinn Neptune/POF on his chiron Pluto/vertex on his juno Pluto/ASC on his eros (my valentine) Chiron/node on his saturn Lillith/MC on his S node POF/MC on his chiron I may have missed a few- but these seem to be the almost exact ones that jump out at me
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KarmicMoon Knowflake Posts: 611 From: Moon, Milky Way Registered: Feb 2014
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posted June 04, 2014 09:57 AM
I have never looked at mid-points before, I'll just add a couple i am curious about....Him to me Venus cj Neptune/Chiron MP SN cj NN/Vertex MP Chiron cj Sun/NN MP BLM, Akashi and my name cj Mars/POF MP His name cj Venus/NN MP Me to him Uranus cj Pluto/BML MP Vesta cj NN/BML MP Valentine cj Venus/Uranus MP Thanks.
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 11:48 AM
@IntuitiveJI'll do the ones I'm familiar with at first or my brain will implode. His Sun/Merc = your ASC So his expression of his thought process and intelligence matched the way you confronted him when you first met. The way you view the world is how he thinks and he feels simulated by you mentally. (?) His Venus/Pluto - your Eros Obsession with your erotic desires and needing to please you at his whim. haha IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 11:50 AM
Reply w/Quote His Sun/Moon midpoint = my North Node, ASC, Venus and Sun Wow! Seems this relationship was destined and he is meant to stay with you for a very long time. My Sun/Moon = his Saturn Its hard for you two to break-up isn't it? No matter what he does? His Sun/Venus conjuncts my ASC and North Node at 0.01 You are his ideal mate and the light of his life.. My Sun/Venus = his Pluto at 0.00 You're very submerged into his energy and you find him extremely passionate.His Moon/Venus= my Pluto Hmmm this is his female ideal.. are u a femme fatale? My Moon/Pluto = his Venus Does your mother try to control his romantic life? His ASC/MC = my Uranus and Saturn My ASC/DSC = his ASC His ASC/DSC = my ASC lol i tried.. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 11:54 AM
I LOVE midpoints, great idea, Karka Queen! Orange,
and I totally love your midpoint action, so strong, so loving and profound.
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 12:01 PM
Karka Queen, are you only doing direct midpoints (conjunction and opposition)? I find the indirect ones, squares to the midpoint axis, work very well, too, if they are under one degree (not so much over one degree though), but of course the direct ones are the strongest. Robert Hand wrote in his book on horoscope symbols that they should always be noted, and are as strong as any major aspect. I tend to agree there. Exluding the squares and focusing on direct midpoints, I have not that many in my own natal chart; but some are interesting:
this is just my natal chart:
Vertex = Sun/Moon -0.02 Mercury = Jupiter/Pluto -0.06 Venus = Jupiter/Uranus - 0.10
Pluto= Sun/Vertex - 0.22 Vertex = Moon/Mercury - 0.24 ASC = Mars/Neptune -0.32 ASC = Mars/Node - 0.39 Uranus = Moon/Saturn - 0.40 Sun = Jupiter/Pluto - 0.47 Mercury = Moon/Uranus - 0.49 NN = Moon/MC -0.52 IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 12:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Karka Queen, are you only doing direct midpoints (conjunction and opposition)? I find the indirect ones, squares to the midpoint axis, work very well, too, if they are under one degree (not so much over one degree though), but of course the direct ones are the strongest. Robert Hand wrote in his book on horoscope symbols that they should always be noted, and are as strong as any major aspect. I tend to agree there. Exluding the squares and focusing on direct midpoints, I have not that many in my own natal chart; but some are interesting:
this is just my natal chart:
Vertex = Sun/Moon -0.02 Mercury = Jupiter/Pluto -0.06 Venus = Jupiter/Uranus - 0.10
Pluto= Sun/Vertex - 0.22 Vertex = Moon/Mercury - 0.24 ASC = Mars/Neptune -0.32 ASC = Mars/Node - 0.39 Uranus = Moon/Saturn - 0.40 Sun = Jupiter/Pluto - 0.47 Mercury = Moon/Uranus - 0.49 NN = Moon/MC -0.52
Hello! I've been practicing on my own chart first and it makes it a lot easier. A lot of these things make sense. For example, I have Moon/Venus = Pluto and Mars/Uranus = Sun and Mercury/Venus = Sun. It makes a lot of sense! No wonder I felt like this... Moon/Uranus = Mercury Do you express your emotional instability or your conflicts with your feminine side or mother through writing or communication? ( would enjoy seeing the signs too)
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Orange Knowflake Posts: 7718 From: Georgia Registered: May 2009
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posted June 04, 2014 12:31 PM
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KarkaQueen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 12:44 PM
Uranus = Moon/Saturn - 0.40 Ceri, do you try to shake traditional standards made in your own home or your native land?
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IntuitiveJ Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 04, 2014 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: @IntuitiveJI'll do the ones I'm familiar with at first or my brain will implode. His Sun/Merc = your ASC So his expression of his thought process and intelligence matched the way you confronted him when you first met. The way you view the world is how he thinks and he feels simulated by you mentally. (?) His Venus/Pluto - your Eros Obsession with your erotic desires and needing to please you at his whim. haha
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 01:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Moon/Uranus = Mercury Do you express your emotional instability or your conflicts with your feminine side or mother through writing or communication? ( would enjoy seeing the signs too)
Hmm, I am not really emotionally unstable, and no problems with my mom - though now that you mention it I find it is interesting that my Mom has Uranus in Cancer conjunct her Cancer-ASC; very Moon-Uranus right there. I have an Aqua-Moon, too. I`d say it indicates that I am (and probably through maternal influence/ heritage) not a very traditional, conventional woman, but operate more from a mental perspective. I am capable of deep emotions, but there is a bit of a quirky side to them, and sometimes I have to take care that my mental side doesn`t take over or I overanalyze where all I need to do is to feel. My Mercury is on 25.03 Sagittarius Moon/Uranus- mp is on 24°14 Sagittarius.
As I said I am quite intellectually/ analytically wired, and noone probably should expect me to behave in the typical girly-way. it`s just not me.
And yes I do write and talk and analyze this stuff a lot. Also, Mercury rules my DESC, and I feel most comfortable with men, who can handle an independent, intellectual woman, who sometimes sais a little weird stuff. lol #
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posted June 04, 2014 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Orange: Thanks, Ceri lovely girl, I am loving synastric midpoints just like you do. I'd check a synastry and then i rush to the computer to check the major midpoints, which are responsible for deep, undercurrent connection between two people.
I sometimes forget doing this, but whenever I do, oh my God, I am SO floored usually. I mean it took me YEARS to even realize that Mr Sag`s Pluto is square my Sun/Moon-mp by only 8 minutes of arc, but yes, it explains a lot I guess why against better knowledge there was this compelling pull towards him. Usually I pay more attention to the personal planets triggering midpoints though, but outers make their influence felt in this hard to explain, seemingly fated or inescapable way, as I found (esp. Saturn and Pluto).
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Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 01:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Uranus = Moon/Saturn - 0.40 Ceri, do you try to shake traditional standards made in your own home or your native land?
Not intentionally. but I am a living contradiction between tradition and non-tradition I suppose. Well in my chart Moon in 2nd house is exactly quinkunx Saturn in 8th, and the Uranus falls right onto the 11th house cusp, thus highlighting the 5th/11th axis as well. I usually thrive when things are being shaken up, and I am pushed out of my comfort zone. Even though I dread it and I am afraid I cannot deal with the change (the insecurity inherent in the Moon-Saturn-quinkunx), I know I need it and deep inside I love it, too. It makes me grow in leaps. Also, I can`t be chained to what "a woman should do". No "shoulds" and "supposed" to in my vocabulary; I am probably more individualistic than really one to do things just because they have always been done that way or someone said it is the norm or it should be like this. It has to feel "right". BUT I am also aware of the drawback of this, the consequences I had and still have to face for walking to my "own drum".
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posted June 04, 2014 01:46 PM
Karka Queen,just wanted to say you are doing a good job on the midpointing. IP: Logged |
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posted June 04, 2014 03:06 PM
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LeeLoo2014 unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 03:16 PM
Hi, KarkaQueen,I'd like your insight on Pluto conjunct midpoints in synastry. My Pluto activates many of his midpoints, including his Venus/Mars mdp. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen unregistered
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posted June 04, 2014 03:41 PM
Sounds ultra intense and probing and passionate. Though I think there is a difference if a personal planet or an outer one activates a midpoint. With the personal pleants it is often a certain trait that triggers something in us.
For example a man`s Mars activating your Sun/Venus-mp. The way he shows his masculinity, how he is as a sexual being, too, would arouse a lot of attraction and "in love" feeling in you. Basically make you feel as if you experience Sun conjunct Venus in synastry, jsut that it only applies to you (unless he had his Sun/Venus activated). The outer ones seem to more or less colour the expression of a midpoint. Like Pluto putting a hypnotic spell over izt, a compulsive need.
Or as I sometimes think
Sun-Mars often express like NOUNS Jupiter-Pluto often have traits of VERBS or ADJECTIVES. (just in terms of emphasis, of course a Moon can also act as a Verb, caring for or nurturing or something like this).
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posted June 04, 2014 04:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: Sounds ultra intense and probing and passionate. Though I think there is a difference if a personal planet or an outer one activates a midpoint. With the personal pleants it is often a certain trait that triggers something in us.
For example a man`s Mars activating your Sun/Venus-mp. The way he shows his masculinity, how he is as a sexual being, too, would arouse a lot of attraction and "in love" feeling in you. Basically make you feel as if you experience Sun conjunct Venus in synastry, jsut that it only applies to you (unless he had his Sun/Venus activated). The outer ones seem to more or less colour the expression of a midpoint. Like Pluto putting a hypnotic spell over izt, a compulsive need.
Or as I sometimes think
Sun-Mars often express like NOUNS Jupiter-Pluto often have traits of VERBS or ADJECTIVES. (just in terms of emphasis, of course a Moon can also act as a Verb, caring for or nurturing or something like this).
Thank you for the great insight, Ceri. So you say we should pay more attention to the midpoints involving the Sun to Mars planets rather than the outers? "Like Pluto putting a hypnotic spell over it, a compulsive need." Who feels the spell, the eternal question lol Venus/Mars or Pluto? "Sun-Mars often express like NOUNS Jupiter-Pluto often have traits of VERBS or ADJECTIVES." I don't quite grasp this and it sounds very interesting. Could you give a few more examples?
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