posted July 23, 2002 08:28 AM              

Can you see anything in my chart relating to children. I don't have any yet and I have Saturn in the 5th which might indicate a delay? I have a medical condition which might make it difficult for me to have children. My saturn return is around the corner and this might be what is making me restless. My husband(who had his saturn return in feb) is not quite ready yet so we'll wait. Any indications of what my chart holds?
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10 July 1973, Brits, South Africa,19h00

posted July 23, 2002 12:12 PM              

Well, children are promised in the natal chart by the number of applying aspects made to the ruler of the 5th. Since you have Gemini on the 5th, Mercury has two applying aspects, a trine from the Moon and a sextile from Pluto.

Any planet in the 5th usually just describes the first child. So, Saturn being there indicates a chld with Capricorn qualities. And possibly the delay in having that child until the time is right.

posted July 23, 2002 04:33 PM              

Great information! I don't think I've ever learned something that quick in my life! You explained that very well, thanks

This is a good question moonshadow. Did it hold true for you? I applied it to my girlfriends chart and it was straight on for her.

Donna- one quick question if you don't mind. What would be considered an "applying aspect"? Does that mean "favorable" ones like trines or just any aspect made to the corresponding planet. Also, how often is this found to be true in your experience? I understand that free will is involved, but are there any deeper meanings involved with this? For instance, does it possibly show how many souls you have agreed to help previous to being born? I'd appreciate any extra elaboration you are willing to give. Thanks for your knowledge!

posted July 24, 2002 02:59 AM              

I am holding thumbs! I intend to also use Linda's astrological indicator when trying to conceive(the distance beween the sun & moon).

posted July 24, 2002 04:06 AM              

Pearly, the applying aspect is for any one of them, whether square, trine, etc. It simply means the aspect hasn't become exact yet, but is applying to become exact on the same degree as the other planet and is within the allowable orb. The same holds true for separating aspects, which are aspects that have already been exact and now they are separating their orbs. Except, separating aspects do not promise children.

Free will is certainly a factor and even though the chart may promise, say 4 children, a choice can or may be made to have only 2 children. It is all about the potential and we choose how much we want to take advantage of that potential.

I honestly don't know if there is a way to see how many souls we have agreed to help previously other than the promise of how many births we have the capability of from our natal chart. Our natal charts hold all sorts of promise, but we have the free will to choose how much we develop that promise.

I kind of feel that our higher self knows this (how many souls we may have agreed to birth prior to incarnation).

I have found that every chart I checked to be true so far, including male charts.

Well, hope I answered your questions.

And they were good ones too!!

posted July 31, 2002 12:11 AM              

Very good information, I appreciate it!

posted July 31, 2002 01:01 AM              

Thanks for asking the original question! I just realized what you were inquiring about in the first place and I want to apologize for being clueless. ...because I think in my haste over your topic (because I was just talking about this with one of my girlfriends) I overlooked alot of your original post.

We are born in the same year and I am going through my Saturn Return as well (I can relate in that respect)...and guess what? Mine's in Gemini (as well) squaring my Sun, Mercury and Venus in the 3rd House. I am studying quite a bit about communication right now! So please forgive me

As well, I just want to offer you encouragement and strength. I have had friends in very similar-sounding situations as yours (I don't know what yours is exactly) and they were able to succeed in having children, but not after enduring testing of patience. And really, that is what Saturn is all about.

In your chart it seems as if there are interesting dynamics going on between your 5th, 6th, 7th houses and also with your NN. Something maybe to check out if you want, just to feel better or understand that this may just be a test. It seems like you are a strong individual and eventually you will definitely achieve your heart's desire.

Much love to you.

posted August 23, 2002 04:08 AM              

Donna, I am feeling the urge to have children VERY strongly now. Is it because of the aspects becoming exact? Also, what do you all think about incarnating souls? Do you think there could be a soul eager to incarnate as my child and I am receiving this communication? But there is no time on that side, so can this be?

Thanks all!

posted August 23, 2002 09:19 AM              

I also have an inverted uterus as well as a condition called PCOS. This causes fertility problems and might be the reason that I am growing impatient. I am not very familiar with palmistry but it sounds interesting!

posted April 23, 2008 04:15 PM              

Interesting because I'm more seriously thinking about having children too. Like maybe getting serious about it later this year. I've wanted kids for a long time but now part of me is slightly freaked out by it. o.o lol. I wonder what transit is going on to indicate all these people wanting kids.

So if planets in the 5th stand for the first child, mine is represented by Sun, Mercury and Jupiter. And does Chiron count? Also I have Aries on the cusp of the 5th house, and my Mars trines my moon in Scorpio and Saturn in Cancer. It also squares Venus and Neptune. I don't think there are many applying aspects though because I've looked at it before (can't remember how I worked it out now) and I don't recall finding many.

posted February 05, 2013 04:24 PM            

Mars sextile Neptune orb +2°23'
Mars trine Pluto orb +4°54'
Venus sextile Mars orb +3°53'

posted February 06, 2013 10:31 AM            

I checked several charts of people I know who have children and won't have any more, and it was accurate 90% of the time.

posted March 28, 2013 07:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Donna:
Hi Moonshadow,

Well, children are promised in the natal chart by the number of applying aspects made to the ruler of the 5th. Since you have Gemini on the 5th, Mercury has two applying aspects, a trine from the Moon and a sextile from Pluto.

Any planet in the 5th usually just describes the first child. So, Saturn being there indicates a chld with Capricorn qualities. And possibly the delay in having that child until the time is right.

Donna

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That doesn't work for me. I have 6 aspects to my sun and only 3 children. But pluto in my 5th does, indeed, describe my oldest son who has Scorpio rising.

posted March 28, 2013 08:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Donna:
Hi Moonshadow,

Well, children are promised in the natal chart by the number of applying aspects made to the ruler of the 5th. Since you have Gemini on the 5th, Mercury has two applying aspects, a trine from the Moon and a sextile from Pluto.

Any planet in the 5th usually just describes the first child. So, Saturn being there indicates a chld with Capricorn qualities. And possibly the delay in having that child until the time is right.

Donna

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