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StarLover33
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posted July 29, 2002 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, you mentioned Magi Astrology a website that I went to and learned a lot from. But my problem is I just don't understand how Cinderella linkages are formed. I mean I know the basics:
Chiron to Venus
Chiron to Jupiter
Chiron to Neptune
I mean I know that its just that I'm having trouble identifying the aspects. Like you know trines, sextiles, conjuctions I don't know which one forms a Cinderella linkage. Then there's something about orbs and degrees and got completely confused. So can you help me out here?
Are there any Cinderella Linkages between these planets of two different charts.

Ven:Aquarius +0 degree 43'
Jup:Aries -1 degree 33'
Nep:Capricorn 1 degree 01'
Chi:Gemini -5 degrees 25'
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Ven:Cancer -1 degree 43'
Jup:Gemini -0 degree 25'
Nep:Sagitarrius +1 degree 30'
Chi:Taurus -0 degree 25'

This has been very agitating to figure out! Please help me!

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Randall
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posted July 30, 2002 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now that's a Donna question if I have ever seen one!

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Donna
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posted July 30, 2002 01:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarLover, Hi, yeah, I know how tough it is to comprehend the language of the Magi.

Well, I will try to explain the best way I know how.

A linkage is an interaspect, which means it is formed between two charts. The aspects are a trine, a conjunction, a parallel or a contra parallel. The last two are declinations which are just longitudinal degrees in the sky, the positions of the planets in relation to each other North or South of the Celestial Equator.

So, a Cinderella linkage is formed when Venus-Chiron, Jupiter-Chiron or Neptune-Chiron aspect each other in the combined charts of two people in either a trine, conjunction, parallel or contraparallel.

The planets you have listed do not form these in the normal or regular aspect geometry, but only in the declinations. That is probably why it has been difficult for you to see it right away. His Venus is contra-parallel your Chiron. His Chiron is contra-parallet your Venus.

Well, have I confused you enough already?

Donna

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StarLover33
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posted July 30, 2002 03:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wait a second so what does that mean? Are they Linkages or not? What does that interpret?

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ineedlove
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posted July 30, 2002 04:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna,

Is there any linkage between my man and I

my venus taurus
my jupiter capricorn
my neptune capricorn
my chiron gemini

his venus scorpio
his jupiter leo
his neptune saggitarius
his chiron taurus

And if we do what does it mean?

P.S. His data is:
October 14 1978 4:00am brooklyn new york
My data is:
May 8 1984 9:48 am brooklyn new york

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Donna
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posted July 31, 2002 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
StarLover and ineedlove,


I don't have much time right now to address your questions. I will have some time later on this week.

Donna

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StarLover33
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posted August 04, 2002 08:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any update?

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Donna
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posted August 07, 2002 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I promise I will get to this real soon.

I have had quite an unexpected past two weeks. My ex husband's son came to live with me. He has been very emotionally abused and requires much of my time. I am trying to prevent what happened to his older brother, who was killed 3 years ago in a car accident when he took off with some wild riding teens, just to get away from his abusive father and girlfriend.

Donna

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StarLover33
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posted August 07, 2002 05:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please take your time, I have a lot of patience.
-StarLover

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Donna
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posted August 09, 2002 11:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi StarLover,

I am learning patience, of the loving kind.

Now that I actually took the time to read the signs you posted, I realize I only glanced at them and mistakenly thought they were for the person you had posted about.

There are definitely linkages between them. The Venus trine Jupiter is considered a Silver Linkage and promotes a peaceful and harmonious relationship.

The Chiron conjunct Neptune is considered a Lifetime linkage or Cinderella linkage, from the first set of planets to the second set of planets. The second set of planets to the first set of planets has the Chiron trine Neptune, another Cinderella or Romance Linkage.

Whenever there is a square or opposition, it is considered an Activation and is a type of Clash. Neptune is opposing Chiron from the second set to the first set of planets. This can be a powerful but tumultous relationship.

To be quite honest, checking all the aspects by hand is a bit tedious, I keep getting distracted . So, if you could give me the birthdata, I could do it a lot faster.

Donna

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Donna
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posted August 09, 2002 11:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ineedlove,

His Chiron is conjunct your Venus. This is a Cinderella Linkage. It is one that combines destinies.

There are several harsh aspects though, for one, his Mars is square your Moon and this could result in heavy arguments. Also, his Mars is opposing your Sun, another area of a sort of belligerence at times.

But, there are plenty of romance linkages and if the two of you are highly evolved in understanding, love can see you through the difficult times.

Donna

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StarLover33
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posted August 09, 2002 05:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I emailed you, but just in case you didn't see it!

Birth Data:
March 6, 1987
Aug 3, 1977

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Donna
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posted August 09, 2002 11:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Got it!! I'll work on it and get back to you, oh patient one!

Donna

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Donna
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posted August 11, 2002 12:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi StarLover,

Neptune is trine Chiron, this is a Lifelong, Cinderella or Romance Linkage. It is the most romantic linkage you can have with anyone, according to the Magi Society.

Venus is square Chiron, this is a clash rather than a linkage. It can create a sort of unrelenting attraction. The Magi call this The Impossible Dream clash. It is such, that you can't get your mind off this person.

Chiron is opposing Neptune, another clash. Not a bad one, but one of strong attraction.

So, Neptune trine Chiron is the strongest linkage there. Actually the charts are very interactive with each other. But most of them are other types of linkages. For instance, Neptune is trine Mercury, giving the Empathy Linkage, meaning this is one of the best linkages to have with anyone in terms of undertanding each other.

Donna


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StarLover33
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posted August 11, 2002 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you!

-StarLover

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StarLover33
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posted August 11, 2002 12:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes and another thing, do the romantic feelings go both ways or are the feelings for one another uneven resulting in conflict? Do you understand what I'm talking about?

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ineedlove
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posted August 14, 2002 01:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would like to thank you very much for your response back Donna!!! And I would also like to thank StarLover for bringing this topic up!!! And ps does the trine between his moon and my mars help the square between my moon and his mars? Thanx again!!!

Katie

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StarLover33
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posted August 14, 2002 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes it helps but like any relationship you still have to watch out for the conflicts!

-StarLover

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ineedlove
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posted August 14, 2002 03:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes you are very right and wise to say that!

Katie

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taj
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posted August 17, 2002 06:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

hi!

i'm intrigued by the linkages you mention, donna. silver and empathy? are there any more?

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Foxxy
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posted August 18, 2002 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never heard of Linkages before, would a conjunction be considered a linkage?
What other types are there?
I'm fascinated and would like to elarn more

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Purpleflame
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posted August 18, 2002 03:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna, if my Venus is Sag 20 and his Chiron is Sag 3 is that a Venus-Chiron Trine and what does that mean? Thanks and hope all is well with you.

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Donna
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posted August 19, 2002 01:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone!

Yes, there are many types of linkages. Here is the website for Magi Astrology.
http://www.magiastrology.com/

They use planetary geometry, which is really all about the aspects between planets.

When I get more time, I will show some of the linkages they have studied and published in their books.

I got interested in their methods several years ago when they published their first book called "Astrology Really Works" and I have been hooked ever since.

Flame--no, that isn't a trine, the orb is too wide, the Magi only use a very tight orb of 3 degrees. Sometimes they will go 4 degrees, but mostly the lesser one. They have studied these for over 400 years.

Donna

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Purpleflame
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posted August 19, 2002 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks just doing a double check as they are in the same sign. Love Flame

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