posted October 30, 2002 05:27 PM              

From "The Twelve Houses" by Howard Sasportas.

Saturn in the 8th........

Saturn in the 8th gives apprehensions and difficulties in the area of intimacy, sharing and joint resources. They may feel insecure about what they have to give or experience some difficulty recieving what another is offering.

More generally, there is a fear of letting go, of merging and blending with another person. To truly merge with someone else means the death of the self as a seperate individual.

This is a frightening prospect for those with Saturn in the 8th who want to hold onto what they value and possess. In addition, letting themselves go in a relationship entails the possibility of being overtaken by feelings that they have attempted to keep under rigid control- rage, jealousy, envy and passions of a primitive and instinctive nature.

They desperately crave a close union and yet withdraw from it for fear of being overwhelmed by such eruptions. Subsequently, they may have difficulty relaxing and being open and trusting with others, all of which could give rise to sexual problems.

( In mythology, Eros and Thanatos were brothers and the sexual union is a kind of death of one's individuality. ) Investigating the root causes of inhibitions in this area deepens and enriches their self-knowledge and understanding.

Besides possible sexual hang-ups, there are conflicts pooling resources and making personal adjustments in relationships. The partner's beliefs or values may differ from and contadict their own, or they may choose a mate who is a burden in some way.

And yet, helping out with the welfare of others may be precisely what Saturn in the 8th needs for their own personal development. There can be trouble over inheritance, taxation and business contracts, and the possibility of drawn out divorce proceedings.

Some will make a career dealing with other people's money - bankers, investment consultants, stockbrokers, and accountants may have this position of Saturn.

Generally, they hesitate to probe beneathe the surface of life and yet this is what is needed for greater depth and maturity. Obviously, people who attempt to maintain rigid controls over themselves are likely to be very frightened by the prospect of physical death and what looms in the hereafter.

These apprehensions could provoke them to a serious pursuit of more knowledge in these areas. A supreme example is found in the chart of Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, with Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th ; through her pioneering research, she has helped thousands face death with nobility and peace.

posted October 30, 2002 05:35 PM              

This book is great !
It's one of my bedside books.

posted October 31, 2002 01:03 AM              

One of my favorite astrologer authors is Isabel Hickey and in her book,
The Cosmic Science she tells us that:

Saturn in the 8th shows a long life due to Saturn's staying power.

Expression of sex is shown by the 5th house but the attitude toward sex is shown by the 8th house. Psychological blockage can occur, or it could be out of balance, either too much or too little. So, the lesson to be learned is about sex attitudes and apetites.

Also, the partner's money and their attitude about money are tied up with this house.

poops and Jakie, I have that book, too! He goes into a lot more detail than Isabel does in her book, thanks for taking the time to write it out, that was great!

Donna

posted October 31, 2002 01:45 AM              

"Expression of sex is shown by the 5th house, but the attitude towards sex is shown by the 8th house"