posted November 20, 2002 04:10 PM              

I was wondering if, given that information, how high of a correlation there would be between each element/quality and whether someone tests I/E, S/F, T/F, J/P; and if that info could then be used to predict to a fair degree of probability one's "personality type".

posted November 20, 2002 08:20 PM              

Eh, I searched around the web for a free Keirsey, but it seems as if they were all removed due to copyright violations.
So.
Hm.
Op, found one: http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

If you take it, remember that this is a pretty abbreviated form and also that the answers that you give are to be your ideal, not necessarily what you've resigned yourself to do.

This test says that I'm an INFJ (once again testing 100% intuitive; it's a wonder I don't get lost on my way to the bathroom); when I've taken the full Meyers-Briggs I've come out as an INXJ (a mix of INFJ and INTJ attributes), but as I've grown older I keep seeming to veer more towards making that J an X, too.

INFJ descriptions: http://keirsey.com/personality/nfij.html http://typelogic.com/infj.html

(If you take the test these two links will be given for your type.)

Dimensions of Temperament (What do those letters mean?): http://keirsey.com/pumII/dimensions.html

The Four Temperments (with links to the 16 types): http://keirsey.com/matrix.html

posted November 20, 2002 08:32 PM              

The only difference in our charts is 4 degrees of the Ascendant. All house and planet location are the same.

I wish I could find a linkage between the keirsey of BM types and astrology.

It would appear that its cultural in nature; he was twice my size in HS and therefore was into football whereas I was to small.

posted November 20, 2002 08:50 PM              

The thing that got me interested was the extreme parallel between my INFJ description and certain aspects of my chart; also the fact that I test INXJ in many instances, which may be explained by my heavy Aquarian influence.
My sister's test of an ENFP also seems to reflect her astrological portrait (S-Virgo/M-Scorp/A-Aqua); my mother's, ESFJ, hers (S-Pisces/M-Sag/A-Cancer); as well as my ESTJ Grandmother (S-Aqua,M-Taurus,A-Cappie); and then a few other examples.

posted November 20, 2002 09:19 PM              

the ponderings of excellent minds will always lead us somewhere.

The 8 Preferences and 16 Types:

Extraversion ISTJ ESTP
Introversion ISFJ ESFP
Sensing INFJ ENFP
Intuition INTJ ENTP
Thinking ISTP ESTJ
Feeling ISFP ESFJ
Judging INFP ENFJ
Perceiving INTP ENTJ

the elements:

fire
earth
water
air

the modes:

cardinal
fixed
mutable

the houses:

angular
cadent
succedent

i took the test last year and came out INTP. took the abbreviated test you searched and came out the same.
http://www.knowyourtype.com/intp.html

i share albert einstein's temperament, a rational.

BUT...my chart virtually spells out zero air element. (astro.com)

my planets are all in angular houses save for 3 in virgo in the 11th house.

"A majority of planets in Angular Houses means that you will tend to concentrate on situations that are immediate. You are probably a "let’s get it done right now" kind of person."
from... http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/11.5MajorityPlanet.htm

posted November 20, 2002 09:36 PM              

Anyway...*reads through* ....*brain melts*...uhh, i'll get back to you :P

posted November 20, 2002 09:36 PM              

i have 7 planets mutable.

posted November 22, 2002 10:48 AM            

I was tested in jr high and came out as an INFP, then in college it leaned towards INFJ and has continued to remain the INFJ - Counselor type.
http://typelogic.com/infj.html

On the surface I do appear reserved (Virgo rising?) and often take in a situation. I have what my family calls an innate BS detector but I am very outgoing at times (Sag Sun / Sag Venus). I think that most of us Sag's will admit that while we appear to be completely carefree and extraverted, we really aren't. Most people see that part of us when we are "in the mood" many times I have to run away from all the "noise and people" to just go into myself and think...recharge and be back to nature. Maybe that is why so many of us are drawn to animals and the outdoors.

Does the part about the intuition leading to the "seer and prophet" fall under the Sag Sun and Venus or does my Pisces Mars also lend to the fact that I dream things before they happen or can see deeper meanings into things when others can't. It has helped me tremedously in business since I can cut to the chase and read the other person easily.

My Aries moon lends emotional outbursts and a temper, but I am always at odds with what I should say and I worry about the ramifications of my actions (Capicorn Merc square Moon). Sometimes people take this as cold, but really I am feeling deeply, I have just gone back into myself.

It is true that while I have a wide range of friends, I hold only a few extrememly close and let them know my inner thoughts and fears. I am close to my family, but they can tell you that there are times that they don't understand where I am coming from.

One thing that they pointed out, that I have had trouble with for years is the "empathy" part. I can feel what another is feeling to the point that is sometimes causes to me have to escape. I can sense the tension, fear, deception, pain and happiness of those around me. Maybe that is why, although I enjoy getting out and being with people, after a while it begins to grind me down, like a sensory overload.

So, I do think that there is a case to be made for the natal chart being in line with the personality profiles. My brother and I just had this discussion on Tuesday when his little boy was born. He is a total skeptic.

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"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul in this world--and never will."

posted May 19, 2009 06:21 AM            

to sum up,

here is a test to find out

here are the 16 types

here is another description of the 16 types (4 temperaments with 4 types each)