posted January 11, 2003 11:14 PM              

hhmm i think that the cancer has influenced on my looking up to my mum or any mother-figure

i also absorb my environment without my consent (cancerian mercury) and retain useless junk which i guess anyone can imagine what it's like to also have a scorpio moon thrown in, well and if that moon is in a vindictive mood, i'm sure it will come up with a lot of ways (long cancerian memory) to avenge itself

which makes me incredibly thankful for the soft forgiving pisces ascendant and the carefree gemini sun for letting go easily

yep i have the same sun sign and ascendant as you do

Twin Lady, have you ever felt like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? i know that the gemini in me loves experimenting all kinds of things, it's just that more often than not the "harmless fun" turns into something a bit distorted from its original nature

posted January 11, 2003 11:23 PM              

maybe our scorpion natures are physically obvious and people naturally react intimidated to strong features

example the scorpio shows up clearly in my eyes, i have what people call the eagle eye look, even when i'm smiling my eyes look formidable...i mean if you look at these kind of eyes, you wouldn't call them lovable would you?

compare that to this friend i know who has incredibly kind eyes, when she gets angry you would still think she's a lamb, the irony is she's a scorpio sun with mercury in scorpio conjunct pluto, even more heavily influenced than i, yet when we meet people for the first time they usually feel more comfortable with her

another example
my mum's a Leo ascendant conjunct pluto with the classic roman hook nose, she looks like someone you don't want to mess with

so my question is do you appear scorpionic?

if someone told me to lighten up, it's usually because they have been scorched

Twin Lady, Morgana
"a true friend is one who stabs you in the front" - Anon

posted January 12, 2003 05:16 AM              

Twinlady, it's amazing how very similarly we look at things.
I also had a very good Aqua friend, we got along very well, but I found it increasingly more difficult to deal with the fact that she often appeared very emotionally detached and unsympathetic (at least in my book). But I know she loved me very much and she showed it all the time, but it wasn't ENOUGH. I thought that her tolerant behaviour meant that she didn't care. But I guess I just didn't understand. She loved me very much, but not at her own expense, if you know what I mean. And we Scorp Moons, I believe, need to know that someone is willing to "sacrifice" something for us. This bothered me very much and we parted ways. But now when I look back, she was the only friend who loved me for what I am and not for what I could give her. And that's rare. Maybe next time I'll go about it differently.

Ice Mists,
about the features: I have a relatively soft face combined with some prominent features (nose and mouth), but I always tought my eyes were somewhat hard and cold, lacking compassion, although I'm an extremely compassionate person. But I can also be very cruel and maybe that's what's seen in my eyes. My b/f says that's not true, but he's blinded by love... I don't have that Scorpio x-ray gaze, though. But I do find it interesting that when I look at someone, it makes them feel uncomfortable, so during these years I learned to hide my gaze and not look directly into people's eyes when I don't want them to feel like that. But that applies to when I'm not having a conversation because then the focus is elsewhere. Do you have the same experience, you other Scorp Moons?

My b/f has Pluto in the 1st house (also has a Scorp Moon) and at first glance he has a very soft, poetic look in his eyes, very beautiful. But he has the power to "hypnotize" you, if you know what I mean. You forget about everything else and just stare at his eyes. He is somehow magnetic. And very strong-willed and passionate. But as I said, he hides this well and it comes out when you have personal contact with him. But it could be that I'm biased now...

Hi, poops and all my other Moonmates!

posted January 12, 2003 05:38 PM              

I have known many other Gem Suns, several other Pisces Ascending, and a few other Scorp Moons...but the same 3 placements as me? Never. Incredible! The closest similarity I have had is with my own older daughter: Gemini Sun, Pisces Moon and Scorp Ascendant. She can be difficult, but I am able to understand her...and she deeply appreciates that. The Scorpio Sun GF I mentioned earlier had a Gemini Moon. We were very close and had great times together. I got her interested in Astrology and we used to call ourselves: (HER: The Swinging Stinger and ME: The Stinging Swinger!!

As for Scorp showing in my eyes: I must say that's not the case with me. I look very much like the Pisces Ascendant, with my eyes having a soft, dreamy expression...as though I'm off somewhere in another world, lol, and have been complimented more for my eyes than any other physical feature. But that may be the problem, because I first come across as a sweet, gentle soul which some others interpret as being able to take advantage of my innate kindness. THEN...when I've been pushed too far...I lower the boom! When I am very angry, my eyes do become "daggers" (you know, like "if looks could kill")... BTW, I had a good laugh when I read that quote; it's true when you think about it! And yes, I do feel like feel Jekell/Hyde sometimes. It can be confusing, to say the least.

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posted January 12, 2003 05:40 PM              

Morgana,

I guess my being a Gemini Sun makes it fairly easy to relate to other Air Signs, especially Aquarius. The added bonus here is the probability that Aquarius Sun may have their Merc and/or Venus in Pisces, which blends nicely with my Ascendant and provides some commonality. I do understand your feelings of wanting some kind of sacrifice in a relationship, in fact I've always felt that the highest form of love is the sacrificial kind. Ask any Mom, lol.

Getting back to the eyes: When I am excited about something (translate: intense), I've noticed that I do not hold close eye contact with the person I'm speaking to. My guess is that my passion is showing in my eyes at that point and either I don't want the other person to see it, or maybe subconsciously I'm trying to protect them from that daggers expression, lol.

Hello to my other Moonmates!

posted January 13, 2003 03:33 AM              

And ignorance can be bliss...

posted January 13, 2003 05:37 AM              

How very true, Lost Leo! "What you don't know, can't hurt you."

Twinlady, when I'm angry, I look at the other person straight in his/her eyes with all the aggression I have in me so that they get scared... But do you or any of you other Moonmates feel that you somehow often provoke an attack from others when you look at them? That happens to me all the time, that's why I really control when and how I look at a person because they immediately feel provoked somehow and attack me for no reason... Well, I'm just blabbering now, nothing clever to say...

See you later!

morgana

posted January 13, 2003 11:27 AM              

What you said about the way you look at people seeming to provoke an attack from them made me think. Maybe I don't make a lot of eye contact when I'm angry at someone...not to protect them...but me! People close to me can always tell when I'm upset because I get very quiet and look anywhere but at them. Sometimes I just don't want to get into it with someone so I avoid doing so because I KNOW what it is going to lead to. Once I do "get into" it, it's as though I am swept away on a torrent of emotion that's almost impossible for me to stop. Things get VERY intense then and there's usually some kind of blowup. Knowing this about me, there are times I would rather not get myself and the other person so upset. More than anything else about having a Scorpio Moon, this is what I struggle with the most; trying to control my reactions. My Mother used to say I was a like a keg of dynamite ready to explode when I got upset.

Lost Leo,

I do agree with what you said about being shallow. Sometimes I wish I could be too, but I'm not put together that way and I get so weary with being "deep". It would certainly be easier if I could turn off my sensitivity. I think I have little tolerance with shallowness in others because I feel that I wind up carrying all the weight of emotions and that it's "not fair".

Till next time,

posted January 13, 2003 02:00 PM              

I'm getting pretty personal now so I'll shut up.

See you all later!

posted January 13, 2003 03:02 PM              

Funny you say you exploded because I came across and episode like that myself. We went out on the town, a couple different bars, a comedy show, at least 7-8 martinis each (bad choice) no doubt about it we were smashed, and we arrive at her place only to get into a fight before I park, next huge screaming match I tell her to get out of the car, she won't, then she finally does, I leave.
Anyways so I'm back at my pad I'm in bed (feeling kinda queezy, my roommates watching me) and she silently comes in, jumps on me straddling my already touchy stomach and proceeds to start a frenzied beating of me and bounces on my stomach while yelling and almost crying at the same time. She didn't know I was feeling queezy and didn't listen when I asked her to stop. There was nothing I could do, I was too messed up to stop her, and the bouncing on my stomach was pushing over me over the edge and after a couple minutes of taking her blows, BAM I threw up. Mind you we had been together for a year partying multiple nights every week, and often times becoming mutally wasted together, but she had NEVER seen my toss my cookies, I never had to. So she stopped immediately went and got a wet cloth and took care of me while I was hurting, until I passed out, apologizing the whole time.

Now I don't know whether it was a Scorp attack, or her Lunar Taurean rampage, but I had NEVER seen an outlet of emotion like that from her. I actually found it quite attractive, it made me feel like she cared about me, she never showed her feelings. But when I mentioned that to her, saying along the way that letting out her emotions is good...
She said her outlet of emotion disgusts her!

posted January 14, 2003 05:22 AM              

LL,

I just wanted to reply to your post but I see Swerve said it all. That was a funny episode what you experienced, but sooo typical. I see you had a very turbulent relationship (but that's only normal when Leo and Scorp come together) and as I already said, I think this girl really loved/s you, she had very strong feelings for you.
Yes, we're extremely vulnerable, hence all that self-protection we're always rambling on about in this thread. I always feel ashamed after I have an outburst like that because I let people see the hidden side of myself and that makes me vulnerable.
But with years, as I've learned to trust my b/f, I also feel more comfortable about letting it all out, although I often still feel embarrassed (we've been together for 6 years), but it helps that he reassures me that it's alright. If he wouldn't, I'd close up like a shell and resent him for it. And I assure you we wouldn't be together for 6 years.

I know that because you're a Leo it's hard for you to UNDERSTAND why people can't be honest about themselves, but I'm sure your Pisces part can FEEL it.

posted January 14, 2003 12:22 PM              

Yup, I try to avoid confrontations too just as you said. I have been known to leave a room (or a house) when I felt the bubbling cauldron of my emotions beginning to rise up from within...for me it's actually a physical thing...I can FEEL this surge of energy flowing. And I know that if I don't get away from the source of my anger FAST, I will reach the point of no return, if you know what I mean.

Swerve,

Welcome, fellow Lunar Scorpion. I too, was going to respond to LL's question, but you expressed yourself beautifully, saying it all, lol.

Bye for now!

posted January 14, 2003 03:35 PM              

Hope you all bearing up well.

posted January 14, 2003 03:58 PM              

Thanks in advance guys.

posted January 14, 2003 04:25 PM              

Swerve, I know how you feel about being a loner. I've always been kind of a loner, but not a real one. I just like to be alone and escape from everything and take in the environment I'm in, you know, without having to discuss it with anyone. But for the first time in my life I've been experiencing quite an isolation for a few years now: I've gradually broke off contact with all my friends that I hung out before (I don't exactly know why, that's the funny thing, but I just didn't need them anymore), and I work at home, so... It does feel a bit lonely at times. But I guess the reason must also be Saturn transiting my 11th house. I guess I just needed this time to regenerate my soul and I think now the time has come to move on, I can feel it (while Saturn is slowly slipping out of my 11th house ).

Swerve, with your Scorp Moon in your Asc. you must look like a real Scorp. Do you feel this is the case? And... do you frighten people from the very the moment they see you (I'm referring to what we talked about eralier about how we don't reveal our Scorp Moon at first, but when we do, it downright scares or shocks people) or later? If you have Moon in the 1st house, I think it means that you wear your heart on your sleeve, but with a Scorp Moon (and Asc!) this is a contradiction in terms, so how do you feel this clash?

So much for now... See you later!

morgana

posted January 14, 2003 04:28 PM              

Uranus is exalted in Scorpio, that means it has greater influence there.

What is a North Node indicate?

You mean you have NN in Aquarius?

posted January 14, 2003 04:39 PM              

Boy, now I'm open.

And Morgana darling, I was referring to having a Scorpio Uranus and my True Node is also Scorpio. Just wondered what they meant.

Thanks again,

posted January 14, 2003 05:19 PM              

It's funny how you said that you feel you're not involved in life. That's how I've been feeling lately. I somehow removed myself from the world, if you know what I mean. And I never really felt a part of the world. In fact when I was a child, I thought for a long time that I'm not human at all, and had to learn how to act like other people by observing them because nothing came natural to me, it all felt very different and new, the things that other children accepted naturally. I'm fully socialized now, but I still don't feel part of the human race (I don't think I'm an alien or anything, don't get me wrong ), in fact I don't feel part of anything and I don't want to. I gues I still have a long way to go...

Hope someone will be able to answer your NN question.

OK, now I really must go. See you later!

posted January 14, 2003 06:02 PM              

Naturally I do explode on occassion too, but if I can get writing before my "stuff" overwhelms me, then I figure this is a far safer way for me.

I tend to be able to express myself far better through writing, rather than with verbally, as by the time I explode it can cause some real damage and often it comes out all wrong.

I've found my written stuff to be a far more accurate and honest way to release my emotions and plus, I really enjoy writing.

So, whenever hubby and I are in a stalemate, out comes the pen and paper and I vent every little p*ss off that is in me. This is not always well received by him, but it certainly makes me feel lighter, and as the old saying goes, "better out than in"!

I've also found that I need my personal space much more than others, as I can't stand anyone sitting, standing or talking too close to me, it really bothers me, so, if I can I'll always shift a bit and this helps me to relax somewhat.

I also find it very uncomfortable going out for dinner as those pubs and restuarants have people sitting on top of each other practically, and it makes me very uneasy being in that situation, way too close for comfort.

Do any of you feel like this ???

posted January 14, 2003 08:24 PM            

I hope this helps. I am really enjoying this thread, even if I am more of a lurker than a participant.

*Bright Blessings*
Harpyr

posted January 15, 2003 04:53 AM              

My boyfriend has found a positive outlet for his Scorp Moon, the same one you did: writing. And I find that he is much more positive about things than I am: much more forgiving, not at all vindictive (maybe just now and then, but it's all harmless because he only jokes about it), he forgets the wrongs done to him (but maybe that's also a defense mechanism) and forgives people, he doesn't dwell on the past and he moves on - all in all he's a very positive person and very mature about his emotions. He is a very creative person and he successfully uses his abundacy of emotions in art. AND he gets very cranky if he doesn't write for more than a few days, so...

Hi, Harpyr! What've you been doing with yourself?

posted January 15, 2003 05:05 AM              

Hope all is well with you!