posted January 15, 2003 08:01 AM              

Morgana, you seem to have lived a life very similar to mine in some respects, I think I will enjoy talking with you a lot.

I also have that space thing. But people tend to to just move when they realise they are a little too close. This is one of the benefits of a Scorpio Moon in my Scorpio ascendant. It seems I can "emit" my will. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to keep silent as most Scorps will as others tread over your boundaries. I can only empathise. I think its because you can pick up too much of that person when they are so near, thereby subconsciously they become a "priority" for your concentration when you would rather focus on whatever was on your mind at the time.

take care all

posted January 15, 2003 10:47 AM              

I relate so strongly to everything you said!! The space thing, and needing to be alone for at least some time on a daily basis...I always thought had to do with my Pisces Rising since I've read that often about this Ascendant; but upon reflection I realize my Scorpio Moon emphasizes this more so. This genuine NEED may seem to be contradictory, because having a Gem Sun and Mercury, I also need to connect with other people. If I'm alone TOO much, I get depressed and yes...feel isolated. I have more or less become a loner as well, feeling uninvolved with life sometimes, and not loved as much as I'd like to be. I have Venus (2nd house) exactly opposite my Saturn (8th) which exacerbates these feelings. Add to that a lovely T-square from Pluto between Venus and Saturn, and you begin to get the picture. Lots of drama and lots of fated events. One might say it is an understatement to conclude that my life has been challenging, lol.

I believe what I've just shared has a lot to do with my becoming a loner. There are many complexities to my nature and I guess some other people "can't handle" it. That is why I am especially glad I found this message board. Here...I feel understood and just as importantly...not judged for being "different". With this thread in particular, I have found much comfort by being able to express my deeper feelings safely. Thanks guys!

posted January 16, 2003 05:23 AM              

Swerve, I agree that you pick up other people's vibes and it's hard to shake this off. And in my case you're right, I don't verbalise my anger and this frustrates me so much! I just look pis**d off and hope that people will get the message. But some are just immune to that
With me it's the opposite: when I step into a crowded room and don't think about it, people move away and give me space, but when I feel frustrated and angry and WANT them to move away, it feels like they're compelled to stand so close to me as to tread on my shoes. It's like my energy has a will of its own and I don't know how I can control it. I think it's because I never thought of it that way. I just go with the flow and let my subconscious guide me, so when I do WANT something, of course I don't know how to go about it. And I've always felt that my energy is somehow naturally repulsive, not attractive: people usually stay away from me, they aren't drawn to me like they are to some people. But I do have my good days when everything and everyone is going my way. It's "all or nothing" again.

Here's a question for all you Scorp Moons: how do you relate to or get along with other Scorp Moons in "real" life? Do you know any? Twinlady already mentioned her Sag ex-boyfriend.

See you later!

morgana

posted January 16, 2003 05:35 AM              

My grandmother died and I am not sure how to deal with it, d

posted January 16, 2003 11:17 AM              

And Morgana, I relate very well to people with Scorpio moons, its an unspolen understanding and tolerance. Plus I take what they say a lot more seriously than others. They are my most trusted people.

posted January 16, 2003 12:46 PM              

It seems I've stumbled upon another beautiful Scorpio woman and she's starting to, although very subtlely, innocently seduce me. I've known her for awhile but never paid her much attention as all my friends were battling it out for her affections, but no one succeeded. She remained "friends" with all of them.
In my experience with other Scorp women, they tend to be friends with you for awhile before things develop.

posted January 16, 2003 06:11 PM              

Well this thread sure is good therapy, I'm loving and learning alot through our sharing, so THANK-YOU all

Fajita,
Oh honey, I can really relate to your sadness right now, as you see, last year on the 16th of August my 'mate' who just so happened to be my grandma, passed on too.

Her and I shared a very deep and unusual bond, and still do, but I miss her terribly.
She was 88 when she passed on and in life we 'just connected' and as I got older we were able to share all sorts of strange subjects together.I began calling her my mate when I was still a kid and it just stuck.

When I was in labour with our daughter, my granmother had a stroke and ended up at the same hospital as me, so the nurses would wheel her up to my room so we could chat.

I was able to talk about Numerology, Astrology and death to her without it being strange. Her and I made a 'pact' that she would promise to come and 'see' me after she had passed on and so I still talk to her on a regular basis.

In actual fact, through some very strange ways, a couple of months ago, my sister-in-law rang me to say she had brought two tickets to see John Edward in Melbourne( the guy who speaks to dead people )and that she wanted me to go with her. In all honesty, I had never heard of the guy back then, as he was only on pay TV back then and we don't have it, so I had no clue who this guy was, even though now, everyone has heard of him here.

So, with a bit of Scorpio bullying ( my grandmother was a true Scorp through and through! ), I'm sure my 'mate' will push her way through to get me a message, but if not, it'll still be a fun night.

Grandmothers are special people, Gods wise teachers, so Fajita, I understand how you are feeling and am thinking of you

Morgana,
I know of one other Scorp moon and her and I do get on well and she is great at not clinging to me or hounding me, but as we are both intense people, her even more so than me as she is a Cappie sun, it can leave me very drained when she leaves, as her life is one major drama after the other. But she is very loyal and that appeals to me as I trust her.

My Brother is also a Scorp moon and he is a Libra Sun in the 5th, Moon in the 7th, Venus in Scorp in the 6th and Uranus in Scorp in the 7th. He is a major chick magnet to say the least, the girls just love him, including my Scorp sister and me, he just has a really nice, gentle charm about him.

L.L,
I believe that us girls need to be friends for a while first as we are doing our homework at that time. We analyse things quietly, through others behaviour and actions, and after we are satisfied that we have x-rayed the persons inner nature, then we feel safe enough with what we know to be the real person, we can relax a bit easier from there. Make no mistake that others words and actions are thoroughly screened and sorted out in our mind before we are able to reach any firm conclusions about others, whether they are just friends or potential partners. This is how I'd describe my processes anyhow.

posted January 16, 2003 07:19 PM              

So sorry to hear about your grandmother; when did it happen?
Having a Scorp ascendant, I'm betting you know something of the intensity of feelings being discussed here. Something I learned over the years having a Scorp Moon is to not be afraid of those powerful feelings; let them flow. Only you know the depth of your grief, and only you can experience it in your way. Don't let anyone tell you how much, or how long, you should grieve; it is different for everyone. Take care of yourself, and know that "we" are here if you need to vent.

LL,

Most of my important relationships began quite spontaneously. Very romantic, very exciting...and usually very disappointing, lol. I think probably I was more influenced by Gemini's energy with that tendency to be impulsive, in the past. But over time, as this pattern repeated itself I decided to take things more slowly. I believe getting to know someone on a "friends first" basis is a good idea, though not always easy to do if there is a strong attraction going on. Another contradiction for Lunar Scorpio (this one anyway, lol): needing to get to know someone gradually in order to build trust (so important! ), yet trying to deal with what may be very intense feelings of passion simultaneously...

posted January 17, 2003 01:00 AM              

phwee..i think my eyes are blurry from reading all these interesting posts since my last visit yonks ago

i'm replying to some posts way back so terribly sorry if it doesn't make sense

Morgana

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But I can also be very cruel and maybe that's what's seen in my eyes. My b/f says that's not true, but he's blinded by love

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hypnotism...the word kind of give me chills ..sorry it's just that i've unwittingly put myself into a trance in the past and the effects lasted for months

besides Plutonian individuals, i think the Aquarian essence is pretty magnetic..in a cool icy way

Twin Lady

that's neat to have a daughter with almost identical placements and a girlfriend too!

yes, there's something about dreamy eyes that seems to give an air of allure

just for amusement, i used to liken the combination Scorpio inner self and Pisces Ascendant to the myth of mermaids luring sailors to their self-destruction, no offence to anyone of course

and i also think Medea strongly embodies the lesser evolve scorpion

about not directly gazing at someone's eyes, i think there's more truth to the saying "the eyes betray the mind" than people would like to accept

ok i'm going complettely off-topic here with my random talk

posted January 17, 2003 01:28 AM              

i'm not sure what to say

when things are bleak, i like to hug my teddybear or someone just to know that they're there to support me

posted January 17, 2003 11:34 AM              

And thank all of you ladies, and you too Swerve, I have such a better understanding of these complex women. I don't know how my life continues intersect with the lives of Scorpio women, but thanx to your help if anything ever becomes anything, I will not make the same mistakes and foolish assumptions that burdened our love and destroyed the relationship with my first lady Eagle.

posted January 17, 2003 01:08 PM              

I see you wrote a lot, don't have time to read or write, having some problems, just wanted to say hi to everyone, see you all in a day or so!

posted January 17, 2003 09:38 PM              

...and don't be afraid to join in here, as none of us would consider that you are butting in! O.K

posted January 19, 2003 05:34 AM              

Hi, Swerve! Yes, your spelling did look somewhat suspicious

poops,
I envy you your great relationship with your grandmother, it must've been nice. I never had a close bond with any of my relatives, except my sister who was my best friend growing up. I see there's Scorpio energy running through your family... Must be great to be surrounded by people who can relate to you. Tell us how your night with John the Talkertothedead was!

Hi, Twinlady!

Ice Mists, again you're right on the target (I mean about that Scorp/Pisces stuff and eyes etc...). As for me, I don't think I'm hypnotizing, not at first anyway and not from afar. But I've been told many times that I have a strong energy, but it's not that obvious at first, it's rather strange... Well, Scorpio-like. I think maybe my Moon in Scorp does that. People have always stared at me ever since I was a child and I HATE THAT so I learned to become "invisible" and I hate to be put into the limelight when I'm not prepared for it. I conceal pretty well what's inside me and it comes out when I'm alone with someone. And then I enchant him/her and they fall madly in love with me...

Thread,
I don't know about your moon in Libra, but the Pluto conjunction sure gives it a Scorpionic feel...

posted January 19, 2003 05:42 AM              

Purpleflame,
I dug up some of my notes about Chiron that I took in an astrology class a long time ago, but there was nothing about synastry, but let's see... Chiron connects the subconscious and the conscious when it's transiting, so maybe we can aplly that to synastry. Chiron + Moon aspect (I don't know which aspects, but probably the strong ones - conjunction, opposition, square, trine): A very painful placement, the person has difficulties to express himself, he/she doesn't have a clear sense of what's going on, of how to take a stand for him/herself, and ever since he/she was a child he/she had to imitate others and listen to others. Idealization of male energy. A woman with that placement in her chart attracts weak men. Absence of a father.

Chiron is the point in your horoscope where you've been hurt and therefore you can heal others with the same problem. It gives us a feeling of alienation. Where we have Chiron, we have something that hurts us, but that's why we can heal it - because we know it. It means that we're iniciated into this. If we give into this, it will heal us, but if we fight it, it'll keep destroying us more and more. Chiron represents facing your demons.

Maybe you can relate some of this to your synastry aspect. Maybe his Chiron knows your internal wounds of your Scorp Moon and can heal them... I don't know, that's what only you know. Good luck!!

posted January 19, 2003 10:57 PM              

Though I loved both my grandmothers very much, I was especially close to my maternal one...an Aquarian. She always had time for me. She would sit and listen to me talk and talk away with rapt attention -- she made me feel important and very loved. I knew I was the apple of her eye; in fact she was probably the only person I've known in my whole life by whom I felt loved UNCONDITIONALLY, and accepted for who I was. I adored her! She died suddenly of a heart attack when I was only 11 years old and I was devastated. Still, I have those wonderful memories to cherish, as I'm sure you do. Grandmothers are one of life's greatest blessings.

Ice Mists,

Funny you should bring up the Scorpio/Pisces influence and associate it with mermaids. My Gem daughter, who has Pisces Moon/Scorp Ascendant LOVES anything and everything having to do with mermaids, lol.

Hi Morgana!

And all my other Moonmates

posted January 21, 2003 08:35 AM              

Thanks for wishing me well, my problems are indeed now much much smaller and I have some hope that everything will turn out OK. I really hope you'll find happiness with your man. I think we are all looking for someone who can heal our wounds and it's very fortunate if we find them. I wish you the best of luck!!

I don't have a Pluto/Moon square (that sounds heavy!), but I do have Mars square Moon and it's a pain, I can tell you. Pluto is the higher octave of Mars (the traditional ruler of Scorpio), by the way, in case someone here doesn't know that. And I have Pluto square Venus... Also very exhausting.

Twinlady,

yes, the Aquarians do seem to have that "unconditional" thing down...

To all my Moonmates:
I've got an idea, since it seems that our thread is winding down, or if it isn't yet, then it will some day: I like talking so much with all of you, it's like you've become my brothers and sisters (here I go again being soppy and sentimental), so after this thread dies out, whenever one of us has a problem of "our" sort, or would just like to talk to his/her Moonmates, he or she can post another topic with the title "Calling Lunar Scorpios again" or "Calling Lunar Scorpios Part 2" or something, so we can discuss it together. Whaddya think? It's like that Phoenix thing, rising from the ashes again and again...

posted January 21, 2003 10:25 AM              

Sounds good to me! I, for one...look forward to this thread and have found much comfort speaking to other Lunar Scorpions. It's a relief to know I'm not alone with my feelings. I will continue to post either under this thread or whatever future one comes up on the subject!