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Author Topic:   7th House..your 1st marriage..9th House..your 2nd
Alena
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posted January 22, 2003 07:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jakie, I love the emoticons you use. Makes me laugh.

Biss, what orbs are you using? Does it matter? I've got 4 applying aspects.

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Bernadette1216
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posted January 22, 2003 08:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh Bissie..thank you so much...SOOOOO much...

I appreciate you looking at my chart for me...my curiosity was WAY up there you know?

Now..let me see...well...I am in my 2nd marriage right now...my first husband is a Pisces and my husband now is a Leo.

quote:
hey, I just noticed - you have a very afflicted natal Moon.
Do you have lots of "female" problems...especially with your reproductive organs?

YES!! I certainly did!! I had severe endometriosis, the doctor said probably since I was around 13 years old, and I had a complete hysterectomy because of it in 1999 at age 29. I do have 2 children though, and my doctor said they are miracles, literally, for one mass of scar tissue was so severe that the opening between my fallopian tubes into my uterus, where the egg flows to meet the sperm, was completely shut. And from the looks of the scar tissue had been shut for years...

Oddly, I never thought of my 2nd husband as a karmic choice for me...although our marriage has endured more storms than I could have imagined...and I'm certain they aren't over yet.

Very interesting though! THANKS AGAIN!!

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brunnhilde
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posted January 22, 2003 11:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello!
For a change of pace...I'd like to talk about a man....see a pattern?My husband!!
5 february 1959 4:09A.M.Chicoutimi

According to the above information he should have none?
As for me 6 March 1959 23:59 Quebec
I had to look there are two right? but which is my husband the Mars conjuct my descendant?if he's the Neptune than I'm a blonde!

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Purpleflame
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posted January 22, 2003 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi StellaPolaris, this is so nice that so many people are commenting and chatting what they know about all this. In answer to your question about which is my 9th house cusp. It starts in Virgo and then goes into Libra. He is a Mars Libra so falls into my 9th and his Moon is in Virgo but it actually is in my 8th. My Moon is Scorpio with his Chiron joining me. Why? Love Flame

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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Problems Bissie as I was just curious.

Certainly an interesting subject that I'm enjoying reading, so hopefully I can learn enough to quench my curiousity


poops

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Jaqueline
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posted January 23, 2003 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alena

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And you can post them here like this :
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Sorry for this interruption

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Aphrodite
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posted January 23, 2003 03:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poops,

I counted three applying aspects for your Sun at 25 degrees Saggitarius: Mercury at 1 degree Capricorn, Chiron at 28 degrees Pisces (if you use Chiron), and Pluto at 25 degrees Virgo.

What do you think?

Aphrodite

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Alena
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posted January 23, 2003 03:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Jakie......

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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 05:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aphrodite

Thanks for doing that for me , but in all honesty I don't know what this means, other than, maybe, an indication of three marriages.......God Blimey, I hope not!

As you can see I don't know how to work out applying aspects and things like that, so I appeciate you doing that for me.

Hmmm, I'll try and re-read everthing to get a better grasp of what this indicates......


poops

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Aphrodite
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posted January 23, 2003 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello EveryOne,

How about we do an energy trade? If anyone else is up to it with me, I'd be happy to look up applying aspects IF you have been married/partnership and could provide evidence/data of whether or not it applies to you. Your experiences, and if the applying aspects accurately symbolize the union(s), will provide a lot of good information for future work.

How about it? Fair trade?

Aphrodite

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Bissie
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posted January 23, 2003 06:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite,
wonderful idea..I am up to it and I will help you as much as i can..I also would like to find out if that theory really works.

what Rushman says :

"I use only the major applying aspects conj, square, trine, opposition, sextille.

When calculating the number of potential marriages for a woman, i look at the applying aspects of the Sun before it leaves a sign ( no matter how wide is the orb of aspect). The Sun can only apply to the slower-moving planets - Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto (Chiron could also be included)

The Moon can apply to the Sun, and I have seen this aspect to indicate a potential marriage

Mercury, and sometimes Venus can show mostly a close alliances but not necessarily an actual marriage.

For a man - look at the applying aspects his Moon makes before it leavs a sign

I usually consider only the applying aspects to the planets but I have seen the Sun/Moon in applying aspect to the Nodes which indicates a karmic tie/relationship/even marriage.

I found that the stronger aspects will be expressed first. Conjunction will be stronger then trine and sextille despit the orb of aspect. The strongets aspect will describe the first marriage and so on.....

The number of the applying aspects doesn`t necessarily mean that the person will marry 5 times (if the number of the aspects is 5)....the # of aspects shows the potential marriages in one`s life. "


she gives an example with Jackie Kennedy Onassis

she has 3 applying aspects to her 5' Leo Sun -
1. applying sextille to Jupiter at 9` Gemini and J.F.Kennedy was a Gemini
2.applying trine to Uranus at 11'Aries and Aristotel Onassis was an Aries
3.applying trine to Saturn at 24' Saggy- which describes Maurice Templesman. They were life partners but never legalized their union as a marriage.

as about me - I have 2 applying aspects to my Sun.
The first one is an exact trine to Jupiter. And I married a Scorpio with Saggy Rising (Jupiter)
the second applying aspect is a conjunction to Mercury/Pluto - not sure what will happen next with my life but it could very well be another Plutonian


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Alena
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posted January 23, 2003 07:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you have 2 aspects counted for one person? I have the Sun making a trine to Pluto, Jupiter and Uranus. I married a Sag (jupiter)with a Scorpio Moon (Pluto). Hmm, also have Sun opposing Neptune in Scorp.

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Purpleflame
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posted January 23, 2003 07:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi to all, WOW, you can tell we would all love to figure out our future as to marriages. Aphrodite, I am pretty sure you have my birthdata. I would love you to tell me about this idea of Bissie's. I am very interested in this as I am open to remarrying one day but am not rushing it. Love Flame
p.s. Bissie and Aphrodite. Do either of you know of the 7th house and the 9th house being indicators of the 1st and 2nd marriage. Is the 7th cusp indicating when or what the guy is like? And, when Saturn is transiting your 7th do you find that the aspecting has to be good to indicate this as a timeperiod for marrying or it for meeting the one you will marry. It would be nice to have a comprehensive list of marriage indicators or 'point of meeting' indicators for someone 'like a potential spouse.' Thanks and a special hi, Aphrodite. I value your integrity and the ability to respond to our questions without judging. So, I guess if someone on here HAS been married a ton of times..and always wondered why..aha, this is it and now you can help us find out if it really works.

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Bissie
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posted January 23, 2003 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alena,
your Pluto/Jupiter/Uranus is a stellium of planets in a close conjunction and should be counted as only one aspect to your Sun....and these planets pretty much desrcibes your husband...I think

Purpleflame,
Rushman says in her book that the classic indication of the time when one will get married is when the progresed ASC/DC axis is activated by natal or progressed planets. If a natal or progressed planet conjunct or make an aspect to your progressed DC - the possibility of getting married or eneter into a very seriouse relationship is about 100 %.
I checked that with many people and they all had activated ASC/DC in their progressed chart at the time of their marriage.


yes, I`ve heard of that - 7th house ruler is your first husband, 9th house ruler is your second husband, 11th house ruler- your 3th husband. Look to the aspects these rulers make in your natal chart and they will describe your potential partner. Look at the house where the ruler of that houses resides - and you will see where you will meet him (your partner).
If the ruler of your 7th house is located in your natal 9th house - you willl meet your first husband during a long -distance journey....or in some sort of religious community...or in school (all 9 house related activity)...
if the ruler of your 7th is in your 3th house - then you will meet your husband thru Internet, a close relative may set up a date for you, at your sister`s house....(all 3th house activities)..and so on and so on...

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Cat
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posted January 23, 2003 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bliss..ful
Sooo the ruler of my 7th (Neptune) is in my 2nd...........

So where do you think I would have met him?
Sue

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Bissie
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posted January 23, 2003 08:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue
in the bank?

how have you been sweetie?

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Cat
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posted January 23, 2003 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie

I knew I could count on you to cheer me up....
Currently in the middle of "World War 111".....with my ex and the legals....not pleasant but hey...I'll survive.

Hmmmmm nope it wasn't the bank .......He had noooo money...I supported him totally...lolol
How's that for a 2nd house Neptune.....deluded re money
Sue

PS: It's almost 2am here now...so you just know what kind of day I've had

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Cat
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posted January 23, 2003 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL....
I just had a thought....
He was an aquarian....my 6th house ruler.....
Yep..I did all the work
Sue

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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K Guys, please bear with me on this one......

So if my seventh house ruler is Gemini, does that then mean that I need to find where Mercury ( which is in Cappy ~ 1st house )is to know how to describe my hubby.

Sorry ...... I realize that this is probably a very basic thing to understand, but I have trouble trying to get my brain around the 'rulers' and such, but I'm eager as anything to learn this confusing stuff

Thanks again

poops

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Bissie
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posted January 23, 2003 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sue sweetie, I e-mailed

poops...if your 7th house ruler is in your 1st house - thats meen you will find your husband coming to him, rather then he will find you first...its up to you
Mercury on the 7th house cusps also punctuate an attraction towards younger partners...you are (maybe) still very young yourself...but when you get older- you may find more attractive the younger boys

uuuff, I am so tired..today was such a communicative day for me..the phone didn`t stop, the e-mails too much...the LLF too distracting
time for a break

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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Bissie

I'm not 100% sure that my 7th house ruler is in the 1st, but that is how I've interpruted what has been said, so I hope that's right .

Hubby and I are the same age ( both 1st marriages )and we met at 14, through my cousin, who is hubbies best mate and my uncle.

I may find the younger guys attractive ..hehehe.....Well there's no harm in looking, now is there..haha

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Aphrodite
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posted January 23, 2003 09:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First Brave Candidate: Purpleflame

Natal Sun is 15 Saggitarius

Applying Aspects:

20 Venus Saggitarius
23 Chiron Saggitarius
1 Mercury Capricorn
24 North Node Pisces
19 Pluto Leo
18 Neptune Libra

What do you think?

Aphrodite

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Purpleflame
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posted January 23, 2003 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aphrodite..I am kind of sitting here chuckling cos there is no way that I will be married six times. Okay, how do I look at my ex (maybe I should reword that as I think I have looked at him enough..Okay seriously how do I check this..(I have only been married once) I am not quite sure which aspect would be the first. We are kind of flipping from my idea about the 7th,9th and 11th houses on the cusps and the rulers (which Poops and I are totally struggling with) and now I am struggling with the concept of knowing which of these 6 aspects that you so graciously looked up I am to line up with my first husband. Would you like me to email his birthdate and then you can 'disect' his data.(ooh, a disected ex,..hmmmm.) I will look forward to your answer, and remain your First Brave Candidate. Love Flame I am so glad to say hi, Cat. You have not been around and I have missed you. Please do come in and join the fun..Well, there is a bit of confusion I must say. I am new to the rulers of each house and am not at all sure how this 'aspecting' works. Thanks to all of you in here for making this so interesting and truly a growing experience. Gee, the potential of 6 husbands. This might be one area that I will be glad to not reach my potential.
Now, Bissie, you mentioned the progressed in the transiting of the planets to your 7th. I know in December my progressed chart had 4 planets and now I am really !! In my progressed 7th house I have Vertex, Saturn Moon and Neptune. When I look at the descendant it is similar to my natal 9th house with a Virgo cusp and a Libra starting within and finishing and again my 7th is huge. Aphrodite am I explaining this properly? We are in a steep learning curve area here and I am hanging on.....your words are my stepping stones.

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poops
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posted January 23, 2003 11:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great explanation Flame

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Purpleflame
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posted January 23, 2003 11:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Poops. I think you and I 'think' alike. I know we both have Scorp Moons, Sag Suns and are we both Sag Ascendants as well? No wonder.. Love Flame I will bet there are a lot of others out there that are having trouble figuring this 'stuff' out, too. They're just being quiet about it and we're being brave..so, 'fess up, and let's here ya!

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