posted May 06, 2003 12:42 AM              

Can someone help me? My birthday was yesterday and it has been a good and bad week.

I was told by an astrologer that my Lilith or liluth, I am not sure of the spelling, but anyway I was told that my Liluth was in a bad place and that meant that people can easily turn on me.

This Astrologer told me I have a lot of planets near or liluth that makes people who once loved me or liked me easily turn against me very quicklyl, like all of a sudden.

My birthday is May 4, 1967, born in Chicago, IL. at 7:38.

I have been reading alot of post and reading some entries on the astrology course post but I have not seen anyone mention the planet Liluth. Does it even exist? Was my Astrologer remotely correct?

Anyone who has info would be much appreciated. Thank you

posted May 06, 2003 03:05 AM              

I have Lilith conjunct my Mars so I try to look at it from a more positive perspective since it is significant in my chart. My boyfriend has Lilith conjunct his MC.

I would question the credibility of any astrologer who makes such negative statements.

Remember, the stars incline, they do not compell.

Much Love,

posted May 06, 2003 03:11 AM              

http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/BlackMoon/lilith.html

posted May 06, 2003 03:19 AM              

A little late, but you should still be celebrating... ... and if not, you better get to it!

posted May 06, 2003 02:57 PM              

So a solar return is when your birthday us, saturn return is when saturn comes around to its natal position again (mid-life crisis time) and so on.

posted May 06, 2003 03:17 PM              

happy belated birthday

how are the cinderella transits going for you? mine have been great. i am in a new relationship now.

i bought a book saturday on the 10 sinister sister asteroids. very interesting, and erm . . . frightening too. it's quite an archaic stance on them. i'll look up your lilith tonight and type out what this book says.

posted May 07, 2003 10:58 PM              

whoops! the book i have says it doesn't go into lilith and refers the reader to another author.

but i'd hate to leave you empty handed . . . so here is Laura for you, the sister of disallusionment. it is like the sign Pisces --- lost, but knows not why. this is neptunian energy on many levels. it is self-destruction in those areas of the house. if there is involvement in the lower level of illusion, self-destructive subconscious patterns emerge which brings disillusionment. it is the energy of self-undoing and disillusionment wherever this dark moon is located. yours is at 23 Virgo 50 in 4th house:

this is the moon's house and many aspects are involved here. this house rules matters that seem unrelated, such as the home, the dominant parent and the end of the lifetime. they are persons who are never satisfied with their home situation, even though there is no reason for the dissatisfaction. the home could be a pleasant environment, but these persons become disillusioned with the home and they find themselves changing their place of residence frequently. moving from once place to another would leave a void in their lives for they would be searching for something that never brings them satisfaction.

there is disillusionment with the dominant parent, which is often the mother, thereby bringing difficulty with relationships, especially in the case of a male child. in this case, it would affect romantic relationships. the dominant parent may, or may not deserve the disillusionment since it does not come through the actions of the parent.

in extreme cases, these persons would become so disillusioned with their life, as it draws to a close, that they would destroy themselves before natural death. they would review their life and become very depressed at what they felt was a wasted life. this can also affect retirement since an individual's life is their work and in retirement they feel they have nothing. they are persons who have indulged themselves in their work to such an extent that they lose the love of their family and friends, thus in retirement find themselves alone. there are many suicides with older people who have the dark moon of disillusionment in this house; they find that they are lost and do not know what else to do with their life.

this position is pure emotional negativity. these persons, even as babies, feel the emotion of lack of care from the parent. they feel that no one cares for them so strongly that as this energy is projected, they find that no one does care for them.

posted May 13, 2003 10:14 PM              

I want to thank you guys for the information. Sorry I did not get back you you all sooner but I have been away from my computer for almost 2 weeks.

Hrj777, that website was awesome.

Pearly, thanks for wishing me a Happy Solar return. That was so sweet of you. My birthday was OK but this week was fun.

Aphrodite,

I am so happy for you that your Cinderella transits are working for you. Wow! a new relationship. That sounds so exciting.

My Cinderalla Chiron Transits are not working out in that direction but I still have hope. So far nothing has turned up but I was introduced to this new guy on Mother's Day. He is a Leo and much younger than me. But we will see what happens. Only time will tell if love is in the air. Hopefully it will be.

I wanted to tell you, you are right on the money as far as the information you gave me about my Liluth. Eventhough I am not quite retired I do on many occasions feel those dark emotions quite strongly. Yeah, my Mom was not a bad mother but she did not give me alot of emotion when I was growing up. I got my emotional fullfilment from my Dad. Even today I get emotions from my dad.

Thanks for everything.

posted May 14, 2003 11:44 AM              

what i gave you is the interpretation for the asteroid Laura. wow, it was accurate for you i was thinking of selling the book to someone else. but i am now keeping it for its own value, rather than what i think of it.

yes, the cinderella transits are going great. i am amazed at the good fortune and having a lot of fun.

i hope you find the answers you are searching for.