posted November 20, 2003 11:34 AM              

Frostbite Kisses

posted November 20, 2003 01:44 PM            

I think that placement grounds me, sometimes too much, makes me too cautious to take the risks I sometimes desire (other times, though, I do take risks). It makes me analytical, mercurial sometimes...usually you think of an Aries as a pretty easy person to read, but I am not. I can be very loving and affectionate, but I don't give it away (5th house placement), and I do like to show my fondness in material ways as well.

I think most people would recognize us with Cappy moons as old souls, sometimes a little weary, a little cynical with the ways of the world. It's been said we love the deepest of all the moon signs...we just don't always show it.

Ambitious? Oh. Yeah.

posted November 20, 2003 01:45 PM              

i don't have the ground beef illness associated with e.coli (thank goodness). i have something else along with influenza now. i am going to the doctor after work today. (thank you for asking, and everyone who has sent their kind wishes).

i totally hear you about holding back. i hold back a lot. failure has put me into depression quite a number of times. have you ever been put into positions where you let someone else "win" because you don't want to expose yourself or you think you'll get the victory elsewhere somewhere down the line? the cleopatra complex i suppose. we'd rather kill ourselves than let someone else waltz with intentions of "help." it's something i am working on and luckily i have made a good friend from here i can vent with with no judgement. it's hard for capricorn moons to trust, if anyone.

i agree with the mystery part. i love mysteries and create it too. LOL. it's fun. sometimes the capricorn moon makes me think it's just blank space, may be that's why it's seems to be a mystery. but mysteries are not the same as secrets.

posted November 20, 2003 03:42 PM              

wow, you have the natal moon conjunct jupiter in capricorn? this is a very interesting placement. both the moon and jupiter are in their fall in this sign. what do you think?

"I think that placement grounds me, sometimes too much, makes me too cautious to take the risks I sometimes desire (other times, though, I do take risks)."

This is true about me too.

"It makes me analytical, mercurial sometimes...usually you think of an Aries as a pretty easy person to read, but I am not."

Same here. When I was younger and didn't know about astrology, I was very detail oriented and did not believe anything that could not be proven with facts. Anything I was to believe in had to have a logic to it.
People are always surprised when they see the other sides of my personality. I am not sure if I am easy to read or not. I know for sure people have said that I am not an open book.

"I can be very loving and affectionate, but I don't give it away (5th house placement), and I do like to show my fondness in material ways as well."

I can be loving and affectionate too, but only if I am completely sure.

"I think most people would recognize us with Cappy moons as old souls, sometimes a little weary, a little cynical with the ways of the world."

True, definitely not naive.

"It's been said we love the deepest of all the moon signs...we just don't always show it."

That's lovely! I show it through the poetry I write and making conscious efforts to reach out. It's tough when one is used to being solitary, but there's always a pleasant surprise on the receiving end from others.

"Ambitious? Oh. Yeah."

More thoughts soon...

posted November 20, 2003 04:23 PM              

This is interesting, thanks guys (gals) for sharing!

pixelpixie, aphrodite...hope the illnesses ease up soon!

posted November 20, 2003 04:40 PM              

He tends to be more a loner tho, and watches from the sidelines. But as this doesn't seem to bother him, I don't let it bother me. His best friends are all a lot older than him, too. He'll be 7 in a few weeks, and his best friends are (almost) 10 and 12. I always wonder what those older kids see in a little kid, but they seem to have fun!

posted November 20, 2003 05:02 PM              

up until now, i have to truthfully say that i was not loving the way your son is. he is an awesome capricorn moon, kudos to mum

i was not affectionate and didn't like hugs and kisses growing up. may be because it felt forced, like how my second grade teacher would stand by the door and not let us out unless we gave her a good bye hug. i thought my mum had octopus suckers on her arms because she wouldn't let go! eek. LOL.

i generally get along better with older people, like seniors. or they tend to gravitate towards me.

posted November 20, 2003 08:00 PM            

One thing that is said about strong Cappy personalities is that they grow younger as they grow older, and that is certainly true of me. I look much younger than my age, and my heart is lighter now in some ways than when I was younger.

You know, we haven't even touched on the mom stuff associated with the Cappy moon. Sticky wicket, eh? And by this I mean there are often complicated relationships with the mother of s/he with a Cappy moon.

And yeah, there can be some heavy karma...like the sun in Cappy, being nasty to people is just a boomerang waiting to come back atcha. Which doesn't mean we shouldn't stand up for ourselves. Just, finding the balance is hard sometimes. I am not always nice, but I am kind.

Aphrodite, I have wondered about that moon/jupiter conjunction often. It's an exact conjunction, less than one degree...yeah, Cappy is in its fall in both. I have Saturn in Cappy too, but too wide for a conjunction. All in my 5th house. My relationships with men are...complex.
Does your moon aspect your sun? Oddly, mine makes an out-of-sign trine...

Oxy, 5 degrees is definitely enough for a conjunction, usually the orb goes up to 10 degrees.

posted November 21, 2003 02:10 AM            

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finding the balance is hard sometimes. I am not always nice, but I am kind.

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posted November 21, 2003 09:03 AM            

I know some of you here have children with Cappy moons--I'm not implying that you are bad mothers, or that your child will think you are! Just that things can sometimes be complicated. It's always important to let a child be and develop into who he is. Cappy moon children are sometimes wise beyond their years, seeing a broader perspective than their contemporaries. Which is also not to say there isn't joy in their lives!

pixelpixie, I hesitate to say I have 'issues' with my mother(s), but they are very complicated (and a little compromising) relationships. My mom died when I was young, she was and Aries, I remember her as a strong woman. My birthmother, whom I've known for only about 10 years, is a Cancer. We get along well enough, I suppose...but yeah, I guess if I'm honest, I am a little disappointed in her, and we really don't understand each other.

Not looking for sympathy! LOL! Only posting such information to share with those here at LL that we migh all gain more insight into ourselves.

Amy, it's not the clinical type, but I too deal with some depression now and then. I always come out of it better than ever, and few around me even know I'm experiencing it...but we Cappy moons get a little black now and then.

posted November 21, 2003 09:20 AM              

I think my son sees me as very demanding, because I am. It's really hard for me not to be, tho I try. After I got to thinking about things, I thought, well it's hard to think that your mother is demanding, but I also show him much love, lots of hugging and kissing and telling him even if I'm angry that I still love him. I try to make up for the demandingness (is that a word?) by making sure he knows even if he doesn't live up to the demands, that changes nothing for my love of him. I also believe that parents are too easy on their kids in this day and age, and I don't see a reason that my child shouldn't grow up with the morals and values I was brought up with: respect, a willingness to work, an appreciation for helping others. So it probably seems to him that I'm overly demanding because his friends are not made to say yes, please and no, thank you, they aren't made to sit up at the table and eat properly, and I often see (and get really mad about) their lack of respect, especially for the parents. His best friend spat at her mother the other day. She got sent to her room for 20 mins and that was that. After she came back out she gave her mom a rasperry (you know, a ) and took off. She's almost 10 and should know better. Her actions had no reprecussions. I would not stand for that type of behaviour and would be so ashamed if my son were to act like that. And then I think, well is that really so bad that I demand him to be well mannered and behaved?

I guess I'll know in ten years or so, when he starts going to a psychiater, telling him what an awful, demanding mother I was/am and how I ruined his life

I guess no matter how you do it, it's wrong lol I once read somewhere, that parenting is about making mistakes with your children to the best of your abilities. lol

posted November 21, 2003 10:04 AM              

here are my capricorn moon placements:

28 degrees, 8th house cusp (the degree of exaltation of mars in capricorn. thank you zoka!)

squares Sun at 29 degrees aries
opposite Jupiter at 29 degrees cancer
sexile Venus at 25 degrees Pisces
sexile Mercury at 1 degree Aries

the moon makes more aspects than my sun. i can now see why i don't appear very aries immediately. (but oh i am!)

i don't know if i have the clinical type of depression. i have not gone in to check it out. they are cyclical like pixelpixie's and i do have her same thoughts! that i will come out with more wisdom from this introspective space, even if they are for negative reasons.

pixelpixie, the way you and your mum are is the same with us. i am not envious either when i see other mother-daughter relationships more huggy-kissy, just feeling:

i wonder why we are not like that too. a few months back, i remembered that i didn't like bear hugs, which are what she seemed to only know how to do for some strange reason. i think she learned from that and kept her distance. she and my brother are a different story. they argue all the time and yet, she will hug and kiss that leo as if he were a miniature king

i have the same issues too about wanting to reach out and touch or say a kind thing, and hold back big time. i think this is part of the reason why i had become good at dating a lot of different people. i don't have to become so close. dating is different from relationships. does this make sense? something about boundaries.

a good point is brought up about contradictions. i feel it everywhere.

with regard to my mother, she is like Nackie strong, disciplinarian, high expectations, has her off moments that logically do not fit into the morals she is always touting for, etc. she doesn't apologize for them either. i am glad nackie does.

the best word i can think of is hyprocisy, not that she is good or bad, just how it was. she wants the world for me, but has done very little to help me get "there." hope this makes sense. she did bare bones parenting, because she felt that she became a mother not by choice, but by a natural law that she never happily enjoyed. i can honestly say she was not happy in the role as a mother, but proud that she carried out her "duty." does this make sense? duty mattered more to her than healthy relating between two people.

be back with more later.

posted November 21, 2003 10:58 AM            

Amy, I didn't mean to imply that I have clinical depression--I don't. Just have times when I get depressed, but again, come out better than ever.

Nackie, my mom was demanding in that way too--we were taught manners, and how to be polite. I was ten or eleven when she passed, I don't recall her as being particularly demonstrative, but I know that I felt loved and would love a chance to know her as an adult. Who knows, your child may someday go through the typical teenage angst for a while, and then one day respect the lessons taught by his mom. I too would be demanding in that way. Remember, astrology indicates, it does not compel...you'll figure out your karma together. Take a look at your aspects together, too...

posted November 23, 2003 09:24 PM              

Carlo of the one-track mind.

posted November 25, 2003 05:39 AM              

Another thing about saggi boys though, not that im an expert or anything, but my friend sag (i think i've mentioned him a few times, but anyway...) used to be shy and a bit of a loner when he was little, even though he has a gemini moon, but now he's a chatterbox...never shuts up (makes u wish he did sometimes ), so your son might change too when he's older, although with a cappy moon he'd probably still be a lot more serious and grounded than the usual sag.