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Harpyr
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posted January 24, 2004 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if anyone has read Dane Rudhyar's _An Astrological Mandala: The cycle of Transformations and its 360 symbolic phases_? It's really interesting. It's an elaboration based on the Sabian Symbols.

Quick history-
In 1925 a clairvoyant, Miss Elsie Wheeler, and Marc Edmund Jones went to a park in San Francisco where they had a pack of 360 cards, each blank except for a very tiny, barley legible notation written in the extreme right most corner, indicating a sign of the zodiac and a number indicating what degree- aries 1, aries 2 and so forth. Edmund shuffled the cards thoroughly and then proceed to draw one at a time, without either of them knowing which card it was, Edmund would ask Elsie what she saw as a scene would flash quickely into her mind's eye. It happened very quickly, probably about a minute and a half for each card, they went through the whole deck in one day, half in the morning, a break and then the other half that afternoon. Afterwards, when the symbols were all put in order, it appeared that there was a "consciousness" at work, guiding the visualizations as the cards seem to depict an evolution of sorts.

I've found it interesting to meditate on the symbols for the various degrees of my planets.
Example-
My sun is at 5 degrees and 35 minutes. That would be considered degree 6 of Sagittarius. This is because the first degree of a sign is considered 0 degree and whatever minutes.
So.. Dane also says that for each position, you might take three different degrees into account. The degree directly prior would relate to karmic, or past influences and the actual degree would relate to present personality. The immediatly following degree would be an indication of where you are going.

For my sun-
Karmic- degree 5 Sag~ Sabian symbol-
AN OLD OWL SITS ALONE ON THE BRANCH OF A LARGE TREE
Keynote:: A posed and wise approach to existence based on a clear perception of unconscious factors and their operations. (Translucidity)

Present (personality)- degree 6 Sag-
A GAME OF CRICKET
Keynote::The development of skill in group situations testing collective goals. (Group solidarity)

Future- degree 7 Sag- CUPID KNOCKS AT THE DOOR OF A HUMAN HEART
Keynote::A stirring up of individual longins for romanic love. (emotional rebirth)


So, I find this interesting.
*The karmic thing makes sense to me since I instinctually psychoanalyze myself and others in just about all my approachs to a given sitution. It seems very natural to me which makes me thing that I've been working for more than just one lifetime trying very much to understand human nature and my own inner world and motivations- hence astrology.

Then,
*the present seems to indicate that my mission is to work collectively with others effectively. This makes sense as I've gotten very much more involved with social activism and trying to understand how to work together with others for a common goal.

As for
*the future.. well.. I definetly have deep longings for romanic love and I don't see that likely changing anytime soon.


So, if you peeps want to know what your symbols are for your sun or moon or rising, give a shout out and I'll let you know what the book has to say and then you can share whether or not it resonates with you.
Oh and if you could give me your exact degree with minutes included that would be great in order to avoid confusion.

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posted January 24, 2004 04:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi - I do use the Sabian Symbols - I find it adds nuances to the character analysis otherwise unknown. I am going to the book now to relate past and future degrees. Glad u passed the information - thanks.

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posted January 24, 2004 06:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why not!

Sun Libra 9.37
Moon Cancer 26.01
Rising Taurus 29.48

Cool...

Thanks...

.gloria

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posted January 24, 2004 07:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. I've never heard of these. Very interesting Harpyr. I'm game. If you have time: Sun in Scorp 10 degrees, Moon in Sag 29 degrees.

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posted January 24, 2004 10:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Huh, that's pretty interesting. Would you mind analyzing my info? Pisces 6.50, Moon in Libra 29.03.

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posted January 24, 2004 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Harpyr-sounds cool, if you have the time!

Sun 21.22 Aqua
Moon 6.14 Leo
Asc 14.33 Gemini

Thanks!

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posted January 24, 2004 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gloria-
Libra Sun 9.37
Karmic~ 9th deg.::
THREE "OLD MASTERS" HANGING ON THE WALL OF A SPECIAL ROOM IN AN ART GALLERY
Keynote-The need to return to source during a confused search for new value in a chaotic society. (apostolic succession)

Present~ 10th deg::
HAVING PASSED SAFELY THROUGH NARROW RAPIDS, A CANOE REACHES CALM WATERS.
Keynote- The self control and poise necessary to reach a steady state of inner stability. (relief)

Future~ 11th deg::
A PROFESSOR PEERING OVER HIS GLASSES AT THIS STUDENTS.
Keynote- Problems attending the transmission of knowledge in a special cultural setup. (instruction)

Moon Cancer 26.01

Karmic~ 26th deg::
GUESTS ARE READING IN THE LIBRARY OF A LUXURIOUS HOME
Keynote- The transference of social privilege to the level of intellectual enjoyment. (class standards of information)

Present~ 27th deg.::
A VIOLENT STORM IN A CANYON FILLED WITH EXPENSIVE HOMES.
Keynote- A confrontation with a social upheaval demanding the reconsideration of static values. (catharsis)

Future~ 28th deg.-
AN INDIAN GIRL INTRODUCES HER WHITE LOVER TO HER ASSEMBLED TRIBE.
Keynote- Inner rebirth through a total acceptance of the primordial values manifest in the human body and its natural functions. (return to nature)

Rising Taurus 29.48

Karmic~ 29th deg::
TWO COBBLERS WORKING AT A TABLE
Keynote- The twofold character of man's mature understanding. (perspective)

Present~ 30th deg-
A PEACOCK PARADING ON THE TERRACE OF AN OLD CASTLE
Keynote-The personal display of inherited gifts. (consumation)

Future~ Gemini 1st deg::
A GLASS BOTTOMED BOAT REVEALS UNDERSEA WONDERS
Keynote-The revelation of unconscious energies and submerged psychic structures. (a new dimension)

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TINK- you didn't post the minutes of your degrees so I will assume that your sun is at the 10th degree.. though if it's 10.xx then these will be off.. maybe I'll just wait for you to post the exact minutes of your degrees so as to avoid potential confusion and unnecessary typing.

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Everlong~
Sun Pisces 6.50

Karmic~ 6th deg.::
A PARADE OF ARMY OFFICERS IN FULL DRESS
Karmic-The dedication of human being to the service of their community, and the assurance that it will be emotionially sustained by the people at large. (group-responsibility)

Present~ 7th deg::
ILLUMINATED BY A SHAFT OF LIGHT, A LARGE CROSS LIES ON ROCKS SURROUNDED BY SEA MIST.
Keynote- The spiritual blessing which strengthens individuals who, happen what may, stand uncompromisingly for their own truth. (self-assertion)

Future~ 8th deg::
A GIRL BLOWING A BUGLE
Keynote- A call to participation in the service of the race, as an evolutionary crisis approaches. (summons)


Moon Libra 29.03

Karmic~ 29th deg::
MANKIND'S VAST AND ENDURING EFFORT OT REACH FOR KNOWLEDGE TRANSFERABLE FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
Keynote- A deep sense of participation in, and commitment to, social processes which seek to bring to all men Truth and a greater Life. (conscious participation)

Present~ 30th deg::
THREE MOUNDS OF KNOWLEDGE ON A PHILOSOPHER'S HEAD.
Keynote- The fulfillment of man's power of understanding at whatever level of existence the person operates. (a holistic approach to knowledge)

Future~ Scorpio 1st degree::
A CROWDED SIGHTSEEING BUS ON A CITY STREET.
Keynote- The fundamental human eagerness to expand one's social horizon and to experience the results of collective achievements and new ways of life. (a widening of experience)


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Oxy,
Sun Aquarius 21.22

Karmic~ 21st deg::
A DISAPPOINTED AND DISILLUSIONED WOMAN COURAGOUSLY FACES A SEEMINGLY EMPTY LIFE
Keynote- The capacity to meet emotionally upsetting experiences in human relationships with strength of character and personal integrity. (resilience)

Present~ 22nd deg::
A RUG IS PLACED ON THE FLOOR OF A NURSERY TO ALLOW CHILDREN TO PLAY IN COMFORT AND WARMTH
Keynote- The warmth of understanding which comes to those who, early in life, are open to new possibilities. (appreciation)

Future~ 23rd. deg::
A BIG BEAR SITTING DOWN AND WAVING ALL ITS PAWS.
Keynote- the self discipline which results from an intelligent development of individual faculties under proper training. (discipleship)


Moon Leo 6.14

Karmic~ 6th deg::
A CONSERVATIVE OLD-FASHIONED LADY IS CONFRONTED BY A 'HIPPY' GIRL.
Keynote- The need to transcend our subservience to fashion, in morals as well as in clothes. (the relativity of social values)

Present~ 7th deg::
THE CONSTELLATIONS OF STARS SHINE BRILLIANTLY IN THE NIGHT SKY
Keynote- The power of basic spiritual values which refer to man's common humanity and to all enduring archetypes. (permanence)

Future~ 8th deg::
A COMMUNIST ACTIVIST SPREADING HIS REVOLUTIONARY IDEALS
Keynote- The emotional and ideological attempt to return to a state of non-differentiation and chaos as a prelude to a new type of order. (catabolic action)


Rising Gemini 14.33

Karmic~ 14th deg::
BRIDGING PHYSICAL SPACE AND SOCIAL DISTINCTIONS, TWO MEN COMMUNICATE TELEPATHICALLY
Keynote- the capacity to transcend the limitations of bodily existence. (technique of transcendence)

Present~ 15th deg::
TWO DUTCH CHILDREN TALKING TO EACH OTHER, EXCHANGING THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
Keynote- The need to clarify one's experiences through actual contacts with like-minded individuals. (objectivity)

Future~ 16th deg::
A WOMAN ACTIVIST IN AN EMOTIONAL SPEECH DRAMATIZING HER CAUSE.
Keynote- A passionate response to a deeply felt new experience. ( proselytizing mind)


wow Oxy, in two of your future degrees are activists... hmmmm.. cool.

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posted January 25, 2004 12:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sooooo Coooool.... and soooo what's going on too...

I test these things by reading the others' interpretations to see if I can apply them to myself, and I CAN'T!!! Can only apply to me the one that you read for me.

Thanks!!

.gloria

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posted January 25, 2004 02:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That IS very interesting, Harpyr. I'd love to see what it says about mine. (thanks for doing all this typing, btw )

Sun: Leo 15.26
Moon: Aqua 8.22


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posted January 25, 2004 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Harpyr, only if you have the time...

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posted January 25, 2004 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Harpyr, only if you have the time...


Sun Aries 26.46
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Moon Cappy 2.24

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posted January 25, 2004 11:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thanks for doing this!

It sounds interesting, and I don't think I've heard of this before.

My Sun is Aquarius 15°42'23


My Moon is Pisces 00°46'10


Thanks so much for any information you can garner for me!

I am ALWAYS on the lookout for any new way of figuring things out about myself here, lol.


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posted January 25, 2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye,

Sun Leo 15.26

Karmic~ 15th deg::
A PAGEANT, WITH ITS SPECTACULAR FLOATS, MOVES ALONG A STREET CROWDED WITH CHEERING PEOPLE
Keynote- The more or less sensational release of energies in a form dramatizing the unconscious aspirations of man's primitive and instinctual nature. (demonstration)

Present~ 16th deg::
THE STORM ENDED, ALL NATURE REJOICES IN BRILLIANT SUNSHINE
Keynote- the surge of life and love after a major crisis. (the joy and power of new beginnings)

Future~ 17th deg::
A VOLUNTEER CHURCH CHOIR SINGING RELIGIOUS HYMNS
Keynote-the feeling of togetherness unites men and women in their dedication to a collective ideal. (togetherness)


Moon Aquarius 8.22

Karmic~ 8th deg::
BEAUTIFULLY GOWNED WAX FIGURES ON DISPLAY
Keynote- the inspiration one may derive from the appearance of Exemplars who present to us the archetypes of a new culture. (preformation)

Present~ 9th deg::
A FLAG IS SEEN TURNING INTO AN EAGLE.
Keynote- The dynamic incorporation of new social values in individuals who exemplify the spiritual potential and greatest significance of these values. (acting out)

Future~ 10th deg::
A MAN WHO HAD FOR A TIME BECOME THE EMBODIMENT OF A POPULAR IDEAL IS MADE TO REALIZE THAT AS A PERSON HE IS NOT THIS IDEAL
Keynote- The neeed to deal with human beings as persons rather than as screens upon wich one projects one's dream and ideal. (self-revaluation)

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Trillian,

Sun Aries 26.46

Karmic 26th deg::
A MAN POSSESSED OF MORE GIFTS THAN HE CAN HOLD.
Keynote- obsession by potentiality. (warning)

Present~ 27th deg::
THROUGH IMAGINATION A LOST OPPORTUNITY IS REGAINED
Keynote- Revision of attitude an inner revalution. (undaunted faith)

Future~ 28th deg::
A LARGE AUDIENCE CONFRONTS THE PERFORMER WHO DISAPPOINTED ITS EXPECTATIONS
Keynote- The necessity for mature preparation and self-criticism. (responsibility)


Moon Capricorn 2.24

Karmic~ 2nd deg::
THREE ROSE WINDOWS IN A GOTHIC CHURCH, ONE DAMAGED BY WAR
Keynote- The necessary realization by any individual making a violent use of collective power that it will lead to the inevitable destruction of some by the values ensuring group-integration. (waste)

Present~ 3rd deg::
A HUMAN SOUL, IN ITS EAGERNESS FOR NEW EXPERIENCES, SEEKS EMBODIMENT
Keynote- A powerful yearning for whatever will increase the scope and depth of one's contacts with other living beings.

Future~ 4th deg::
A GROUP OF PEOPLE OUTFITTING A LARGE CANOE AT THE START OF A JOURNEY BY WATER
Keynote- The ability to use natural resources and basic skills in order to achieve a group-purpose. (group-activity)

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P.PonderingFishMoon,

Sun Aquarius 15.42

Karmic~ 15th deg::
TWO LOVEBIRDS SITTING ON A FENCE AND SINGING HAPPILY
Keynote- The blessing bestowed upon personal achievements by the spiritually fulfilled consciousness of the Soul. (beatitude)

Present~ 16th deg::
A BIG BUSINESSMAN AT HIS DESK
Keynote- The ability to organize the many aspects of an enterprise involving a large group of human beings. (organation should be the Keyword, rather than mere "organization"; for humanity now can and should realize that it is indeed an "organism")

Future~ 17th deg::
A WATCHDOG STANDS GUARD, PROTECTING HIS MASTER AND HIS POSSESSIONS
Keynote- The development of the capacity to protect oneself and to safeguard one's individual rights under complex social pressures.


Moon Pisces 00.46

Karmic~ Aquarius 30th deg::
DEEPLY ROOTED IN THE PAST OF A VERY ANCIENT CULTURE, A SPIRITUAL BROTHERHOOD IN WHICH MANY INDIVIDUAL MINDS ARE MERGED INTO THE GLOWING LIGHT OF A UNANIMOUS CONSCIOUSNESS IS REVEALED TO ONE WHO HAS EMERGED SUCESSFULLY FROM HIS METAMORPHOSIS.
Keynote- The ability for the person with an open mind and a deep feeling for self-trancendence to come in contact with higher forms of existence. (conscious totality of being)

Present~ Pisces 1st deg::
IN A CROWDED MARKETPLACE FARMERS AND MIDDLEMEN DISPLAY A GREAT VARIETY OF PRODUCTS
Keynote- The process of commingling and interchange which at all levels demonstrates the health of a community. (commerce)

Future~ 2nd deg::
A SQUIRREL HIDING FROM HUNTERS
Keynote- The individual's need both to ensure his future subsistence and to protect himself from aggressive social elements. (self-protection)

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posted January 25, 2004 02:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Harpyr:

Would you please post mine when you have a chance? Thanks!

Sun in Libra 13 51 18
Moon in Leo 25 59 08
Ascendant in Leo 21 06 00

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posted January 25, 2004 03:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harpyr,
I've never heard of these! It sounds so interesting! I would love to have mine done, when you get the chance! Thanks so much!
Chris
sun - libra 13.15'45
Moon - Sagittarius 27.32'37
Ascendant - Aquarius 5.22'40

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posted January 25, 2004 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Harpyr,

Very interesting! If you have time,

Sun Aries 4.54'36
Moon Virgo 4.2'4
Asc Taurus 4.40'4

Curious about all of the 4's?

Thanks, Cindi

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posted January 25, 2004 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gosh, thanks Harpyr...

I think, lol.

I am not sure how to take those Future Symbols and Keynotes, but being very careful in my self-expression is already a deeply important thing to me right now, since I can tend to have fairly different views from most people that I encounter both in real life and via online as well.

I really believe that I was persecuted in another life/other lives for expressing my differing beliefs to others too strongly somehow, so I have definitely already made it a mission of mine to express whatever I need to express without doing it in any sort of overbearing and /or offensive manner by now.

But, gosh, that part of it all really rang true, as did the part about me sitting behind a desk organizing things too, lol.

Wow, I think that stuff is on the mark, for me at least!

If you could, when you have a brief chance, could you also please do the write up for my Ascendant as well?


It is Ascendant Taurus 17°05'17


THANKS SO MUCH!!!

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posted January 25, 2004 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow, Harpyr, if you have the opportunity I would love this...how interesting!!!!
Sun-Scorpio 04°52'44
Moon- Capricorn 13°08'22
Asc-Leo 07°35'26
Thanks sweets, there are so many numbers-latitude, time, longitude, declinations, I hope I gave you the right ones, they made sense though... Anyway, thanks again!

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Hi Harpyr. Sorry. Still new to this astrology biz. Is this the right info? Sun in Scorp 10deg 29'31, Moon in Sag 29deg 44'37.
I LOVE the titles to these cards. So descriptive. Sort of Jungian. Dream language. "An old owl sits alone on the Branch of a large tree", "Cupid knocks at the door of a human heart" "three mounds of knowledge on a philosopher's head" "A peacock parading on the terrace of an old castle" Like fairy tales!

Thanks Harpyr!

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Thanks Harpyr!

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posted January 25, 2004 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
divinia,

Sun Libra 13.51

Karmic~ 13th deg::
CHILDREN BLOWING SOAP BUBBLES
Keynote- The cultural fantasies through which young minds dream of perfect fulfillment. (imaginative play)

Present~ 14th deg::
IN THE HEAT OF THE NOON HOUR A MAN TAKES A SIESTA
Keynote- The need for recuperation within the social pattern of everyday activity. (relaxation)

Future~ 15th degree:::
CIRCULAR PATHS
Keynote- Coming to terms with the inevitability of establishing steady rhythms of social activity. (boredom OR transpersonal peace)

Moon Leo 25.59

Karmic~ 25th deg::
A LARGE CAMEL IS SEEN CROSSING A VAST AND FORBIDDING DESERT
Keynote- Self-sufficiency in the face of a long and exhausting adventure. (total independence, self-reliance)

Present~ 26th deg::
AFTER THE HEAVY STORM, A RAINBOW.
Keynote- Linking above and below, the Covenant with one's divine nature, promise of immortality. (revelation of worth)

Future~ 27th deg::
THE LUMINESCENCE OF DAWN IN THE EASTERN SKY
Keynote- The exalting challenge of new opportunities at the threshold of a new cycle. (illumination)

Rising Leo 21.06

Karmic~ 21st deg::
INTOXICATED CHICKENS DIZZILY FLAP THEIR WINGS TRYING TO FLY
Keynote- The often negative and at times ludicrous first experience with spiritual teachings. (premature expansion of consciousness)

Present~ 22nd deg::
A CARRIER PIGEON FULFILLING ITS MISSION
Keynote- Spirituality, in terms of training for service to mankind. (world server)

Future~ 23rd deg::
IN A CIRCUS THE BAREBACK RIDER DISPLAYS HER DANGEROUS SKILL.
Keynote- The audacity and perserverance required to control and play with the powerful energies of the vital realm in human existence. (virtuosity)


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Short on time this evening..
Will get back to this tomorrow.. G'nite!

p.s. P.PonderingFishMoon,
That IS interesting about your karmic degrees. I hadn't noticed that. Can't wait to see what we discover tomorrow with your asc.

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posted January 26, 2004 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chris,

Sun Libra 13.15

*SEE DIVINIA'S SUN DESCRIPTION ABOVE*

Moon Sagittarius 27.32

Karmic~ 27th deg::
A SCULPTOR AT HIS WORK
Keynote- The ability to project one's vision upon and to give form to materials. (projection into a work)

Present~ 28th deg::
AN OLD BRIDGE OVER A BEAUTIFUL STREAM IS STILL IN CONSTANT USE.
Keynote- The enduring elements in society which reveal its ability to significantly link the genius of its individuals to the everyday needs of the collectivity. (the beautiful necessity)

Future~ 29th deg::
A FAT BOY MOWING THE LAWN OF HIS HOUSE ON AN ELEGANT SUBURBAN STREET
Keynote- The need to attend to everyday tasks which both esure social worth and respectablity, and benefit one's constitution. ( social respectability)


Rising Aquarius 5.22

Karmic~ 5th deg::
A COUNCIL OF ANCESTORS IS SEEN IMPLEMENTING THE EFFORTS OF A YOUNG LEADER
Keynote- The Root foundation of past performances which power and sustain whatever decision is made in a crisis by an indvidual. (reliance upon precedents)

Present~ 6th deg::
A MASKED FIGURE PERFORMS RITUALISTIC ACTS IN A MYSTERY PLAY
Keynote- *weirdly, this entry doesn't have a keynote! So I'll just type out the whole paragraph that comes after the keynote, which I've been omitting from the other entries for the sake of my fingers. *

"The great Mysteries of the past were created by inspired Seers and Adepts for the purpose of transferring to a mentally conscious and humanly significant level of group operation what in the lower kingdoms of life we call instincts. Biological and cosmic energies can thus be used to ensure that social processes do not lose touch with the deeper realities of planetary and universal Life. Rituals are binding and often the performers wear masks, for they do not act as human persons but as focal points for the release of transpersonal forces. (transpersonal responsibility)"

Future~ 7th deg::
A CHILD IS SEEN BEING BORN OUT OF AN EGG
Keynt- The emergence of new mutations according to the great rhythms of the cosmos. (emergence of global man)

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Cindi,

Sun Aries 4.54

Karmic~ 4th deg;:
TWO LOVERS STROLLING ON A SECLUDED WALK.
Keynt- The progressive polarization of energies needed for fulfilling one's life function. (polarization)

Present~ 5th deg::
A TRIANGLE WITH WINGS
Keynt- The capacity for self-transcending. (a new dimension)

Future~ 6th deg::
A SQUARE, WITH ONE OF ITS SIDES BRIGHTLY ILLUMINED.
Keynt- The emotional desire for concrete and stabilized existence as a person. (one sided urge for inner stability)


Moon Virgo 4.2

Karmic~ 4th deg::
BLACK AND WHITE CHILDREN PLAY TOGETHER HAPPILY
Keynt- the overcoming of sociocultural prejudices. (brotherhood)

Present~ 5th deg::
A MAN BECOMING AWARE OF NATURE SPIRITS AND NORMALLY UNSEEN SPIRITUAL AGENCIES
Keynt- The opening of new levels of consciousness. ( imagination)

Future~ 6th deg::
A MERRY-GO-ROUND.
Keynt- The first experience of the dynamic intensity of life processes and of the possibility of using them to reach a characteristic ego-satisfaction. (an objective approach to the life force)


Rising Taurus 4.40

Karmic~4th deg::
THE POT OF GOLD AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW
Kynt- Riches that come from linking the celestial and the earthly nature. (communion)

Present~ 5th deg::
A WINDOW AT AN OPEN GRAVE
Kynt- The impermanence of all material and social bonds. (discard the past)

Future~ 6th deg::
CANTILEVER BRIDGE ACROSS A DEEP GORGE
kynt- The conquest of separativeness through group cooperation. (conquer obstacles)

Cindi, that is interesting..all the fours.. which is actually all the 5's if you want to be nitpicky about it.. Do you have a take on it?

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PPFM,

Rising Taurus 17.05

Karmic~17th deg::
A SYMBOLICAL BATTLE BETWEEN "SWORDS" AND "TORCHES"
kynt- Refusing to depend upon the past, the seeker turns warrior, fighting anew the eternal "Great War." (polarization of values)

Present~ 18th deg::
A WOMAN AIRING AN OLD BAG THROUGH THE OPEN WINDOW OF HER ROOM.
kynt- The cleansing of the ego-consciousness. (purification)

Future~ 19th deg::
A NEW CONTINENT RISING OUT OF THE OCEAN
kynt- The surge of new potentiality after the crisis. (spontaneity)

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okay.. snack break .. be right back!

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posted January 26, 2004 12:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Harpyr! I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. I've been wanting to know more about the Sabian symbols. I especially like the part about INTOXICATED CHICKENS DIZZILY FLAP THEIR WINGS TRYING TO FLY. I have to admit I have experienced that feeling many times in my life!

Sincerely,
divinia

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posted January 26, 2004 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
p.pixie,

Sun Scorpio 4.52

Karmic~ 4th deg::
A YOUTH CARRIES A LIGHTED CANDLE IN A DEVOTIONAL RITUAL
K- The educative power of ceremonies which impress the great images of a culture upon its gathered participants. (the power of symbols)

Present~ 5th deg::
A MASSIVE ROCKY SHORE RESISTS TEH POUNDING OF THE SEA
K- The inertia of all institutionalized procedures. (stability)

Future~ 6th deg::
THE GOLD RUSH TEARS MEN AWAY FROM THEIR NATIVE SOIL
K- The passionate search for new values which, at any level, promise a more abundant life. (avidity)


Moon Capricorn 13.08

Karmic~ 13th deg::
A FIRE WORSHIPER MEDITATES ON TEH ULTIMATE REALITIES OF EXISTENCE
K- The subjective quest for ultimates beyoned the interplay of life and death processes. (will to trancendence)

Present~14th deg::
AN ANCIENT BAS-RELIEF CARVED IN GRANITE REMAINS A WITNESS TO A LONG-FORGOTTEN CULTURE
K- The will to unearth, in our culture as well as in any culture, what has permanent value, and to let go of nonessentials. (historical perspective)

Future~ 15th deg::
IN A HOSPITAL, THE CHILDREN'S WARD IS FILLED WITH TOYS
K- The responsibility of society to ensure the welfare and total health of the new generation. (tender care)


Rising Leo 7.35

Karmic~ See Oxy's Present Moon deg.

Present~ See Oxy's Future Moon deg.

Future~ 10th deg::
GLASS BLOWERS SHAPE BEAUTIFUL VASES WITH THEIR CONTROLLED BREATHING
K- The need to involve one's most spiritual and vital energies in teh creative act if it is to produce significant and beautiful new forms.

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TINK,
Thanks for clairfying.. that was exactly what I needed.

Sun Scorpio 10.29

Karmic~ 10th deg::
A FELLOWSHIP SUPPER REUNITES OLD COMRADES
K- The overtones of human relationships based on a community of work or experiences. (comradeship)

Present~ 11th deg::
A DROWNING MAN IS BEING RESCUED.
K- The deep concern of the social group for the safety of individuals. (humanitarianism)

Future~ 12th deg::
AN OFFICIAL EMBASSY BALL
K- Group consciousness, as it flowers at the highest level in cultural interchanges between representatives of the elite of the ruling class. (display)


Moon Sagittarius 29.44

Karmic~ See Chris's Future Moon deg.

Present~ 30th deg::
THE POPE, BLESSING THE FAITHFUL
K- The need to pay homage to traditional values upon which the Invisible Community of the spirit is built. (personalized worship)

Future~ Capricorn 1st deg::
AN INDIAN CHIEF CLAIMS POWER FROM THE ASSEMBLED TRIBE
K- The power and responsibility implied in any claim for leadership. (authority)

*WOW* It blows my mind that this woman intuitively picked up on these things... That 1st degree of Cappy is right on target!

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PlayfulPonderingFishMoon
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posted January 26, 2004 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Harpyr,


Thanks so much for the information on my Ascendant!


And, oh gosh, if it's really not too, too much trouble sometime, could you please give me the information for these next few listings as well?


Sun Aquarius 02°26'28


Moon Leo 06°04'49


Ascendant Aries 11°40'11

THANKS SO MUCH AGAIN!


You're really the best for doing this for us, because I don't think that I have heard of this Sabian stuff before, and it's really interesting to learn about it.

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