posted August 13, 2004 11:16 AM              

I going to say something that'll possibly tick off my Aquarian air brethen (to my defense, I have an Aqua Mars and a strong Uranian singleton) but the dirty little secret about Aquarians is this: they are control freaks. And because it's an air sign, we're talking about *mental* control. Trust me, if a mind control machine is ever invented, it'll be invented by an Aqua.

Aquas like to get your attention and keep it (and often have the charisma and mystique to do so), but without being very reciprocal - way too attached. They like to keep people they deem worthy in their orbit, and pass it off as friendship. But half the time it's just so they can move in close when they feel that compulsive control urge, and then they mircomanage your life, explaning to you it painful detail how much better your life would be if you'd just listen to them (many do secretly wish for a mind control machine, so they could just push a button and get you to do what they think you should!). They think we all should listne to them because they know better - afterall, they are Aquarians, the "progessive" sign. Must saps go along because Aguas can be quite persausive, because they come across as very intelligent, rational and knowledgable. But don't dare argue with them, because despite all their pretense of being fair-minded and humanitarian, Aquas will try to win a battle of words at any expense. Some Aquas are outright abusive like this (especially is they have difficult moon, overzealous Mars placements, or god forbid, a badly aspected Pluto).

Often other people feel like they're being strung along by an Aqua, and sometimes they are. No sign strings people along like Aquas, not even we Gems (ok, maybe Libras, but that's usually because they can't make up their minds). However, you can be assured with Aquarius - the sign that rules emotional detachment par excellence - that it's nothing personal. Aquas tend to be too lost in mental abstractions (or hubris) to be so emotional involved with how they affect other people. My favorite Aqua story for illustration: I was once introduced to an Aqua guy by friend. He was pleasant, friendly, and quite inteliigent and interesting (he was a PC whiz and a painter to boot). However he tended to boss my friend around, expecting him to do everything from defrag his own computers to picking up his favorite gourmet coffee, yet he NEVER did favors for my friend in return. I once asked my friend if this guy was an only child, thinking perhaps that might explain his behavior, My friend replied with exasberation, "yeah, you'd think!"

Keep in mind that, just as all cardinal signs are self-important buttheads and all mutable signs are undisciplined flakes, all fixed signs - Taurus, Leo, Scorpio and Aquarius - are incorrigble bullies (admit it, guys!), and they go about bullying according to their element. So with Aqua it's mind control games - but they'd never call it that (this is very different from the notorious yet less complicated Gemini "mind game" in which isn't not about controlling people but just messing with their heads for our amusement ). And every Aqua I've confronted about this behavior (which has been several - they tend to think we Gems are easy pickings, and often we are) has been deeply offended by the accusation, because they see themselves as "friends of humanity," often more advanced than the rest of us somehow and thus such pettiness is beneath them. Yeah whatever.

Most Aquas do have very good intentions, but being an air sign, they aren't very introspective, and being a fixed sign, they stubbornly resist doing so (and if you think Aqua Suns are bad about this, hook up with a Aqua moon sometimes - they'll have you in tears before long with their damnable emotional obliviousness). Those Aquas who do reach that state of maturity and self-awareness and become conscious of how they affect and influence others (and realize they can't go around making up other people's minds for them), usually become extraordinary indivudals who are in fact genuinely "progressive," humanitarian and egalitarian - I had a professor in college who was the epitome of the mature Aquarian, and he is easily the most inspiringly "progressive" (and intelligently so) as well as compassionate crusader for society I have ever met or could ever imagine.

Unfortunately, especially with younger Aquas, they often just don't see their compulsive, emotionally driven impulses for what they are, and adamently deny that they are being influenced by something as uncerebral as "feelings." They will insist they have a logical and rational explanation for everything they - don't fall for that. Emotions unnerve Aquas just as much as they confuse Gems. This is why relationships with Aquas, if they mature and become more equal, and don't simply wallow in the Intellectual Bully and his Dimwittted Toady stage, take a very long time. It's because it takes an Aqua a long time to figure out that they're not just a brain in a box, and that they actually do have a soul like the rest of us.

posted August 13, 2004 11:26 AM              

1) Yes. No. Well, they're interested in everyone. But so are a lot of Pisces and Sags. Gemini's are sometimes, too, but they're often too distracted by the flitting in their head to appear too, too engrossed.

2) And, yep, as Gem Nymph said, they'll try to control and not even know it - my only solution is to either
a) Call 'em on it. If they're mature enough to hold a relationship, they're mature enough to take it.
or
b) Ignore them. That really gets their goat - and it may even make them step back and reflect enough to wonder what made you do so.

posted August 13, 2004 09:04 PM              

So let me get this stright she wants the attention she needs,

and its not so much that she wants it but rather she can't control her "urge" to do so.

Then once i have her attention she wants to control my head???? with what she thinks???

because curently she doesn't control it, but she has my head confused.

"They like to keep people they deem worthy in their orbit, and pass it off as friendship. But half the time it's just so they can move in close when they feel that compulsive control urge, and then they mircomanage your life"

why am i being targeted??? why me ???

Truth of the matter is i was ignoring her for months, i pased it off as typical aquarious behaviour, then when i had my back turned, she touched me.

posted August 14, 2004 07:16 AM            

What?!!?? Me??? Try and control things??!! I most certainly do not!! LOL

Seriously though, that is sooo freakin' true. It's not like I do it on purpose, but when people give me attention, I can't help but (if I ''deem them worthy'') keep them around by still chatting to them and piqing their intrest. If they ignore me, it bugs me, and I do something crazy to get them back into my ''orbit''. Ben, take note: when you ignored her, it made her want to pull you back into her little world. It's kind of flattering, in my opinion, for her to do this as we Aqua's tend to flit around a room engrossing people in conversation, then flitting away just as fast. If she pays so much attention to you, she is your friend.

posted August 14, 2004 10:59 AM              

This girl just may want a new boyfriend, it hardly means she likes or dislikes you, a grab on the thighs is just that, a grab.

I agree that it's good to never let anyone boss you around like that, male or female, and the next time she grabs you or touches you, I would slap her hard on the rear and walk away.

But then I am a Taurus,
Then again, I have Aqua friends, real friends, I've known for years and they've done much for me, emotionally and spirituality.

Aquas are not really into the physical much, that is they won't explain themselves, very much like Geminis, they have a natural arrogance, that is obvious. There is no use trying to understand why you? Because eventually everyone will attract the mind of an Aqua. Feel flattered if you are up to the challenge, if not and your Gemini Mercury may be frazzled at this point, then politely decline to engage in teasing with her until another time.

The challenge, the mental sparring, all this is very attractive to the Aqua, but that's what is necessary, a chess game, a tennis match, works the mind.

I have Gemini Mercury/7th house and Aquas tend to frazzle me and cause me to question myself, easily. They are naturally concerned with themselves and that's admirable. My Gemini Mercury just burns itself out doing things for other people anyway, and my Aqua people are usually pointing out what I am doing wrong enough that I can't fanthom a physical relationship.

Make sense? Aquas like to be right, they like to be the one who wins, you are not going to win so she picked on you. If you like it great, if not then tell her you're not interested. If you are not up to the challenge she will just hurt you, or worse belittle your ability to stand up to her.

I know Geminis can be wusses too, I have the Sun in the 6th and Mercury and the 7th ruled by Gemini, my ascendant ruler is in Virgo, Mercury rules my midheaven.
The only saving grace I have which isn't much is my Uranus in the 10th conjunct midheaven, conjunct Pluto and Jupiter trine my Sun and Mercury. I still understand Aqua Suns better if they have Venus in Pisces.

Does she have Venus in Pisces? if so great!

posted August 16, 2004 07:05 PM            

In many ways, Scorpio and Aquarius can be very similar and both signs are good at the 'smoke and mirrors' way of throwing you off their trail of intention or of their not wanting you to know what they're really up to. Both signs have an incredible amount of magnetism (and can turn it on and off at will - ask me how I know).

A person does have to stand up to an Aqua - as was mentioned previously - they can be bullies and grouchy. Stand firm and they will simply shrug their shoulders and go "Oh, okay". My Aqua guy can be the king of the grumpies and usually lets out a big lion-like roar only for attention.

I have noticed that my Aqua claims he doesn't care what someone thinks, but watching him closely, he goes about fixing what needs to be fixed in order to maintain his 'image'.

An Aqua will never admit to anything, in particular their strategy or what they are feeling. They don't want to reveal any of the cards in their hand and will listen to you before offering their point of view on anything, which will usually be the exact opposite of yours, just to be different and maintain their independent self at any cost.

Aquas might appear (or claim) to forget, but don't...and will surprise you when you least expect it.

posted August 17, 2004 01:26 PM              

at the time i was a fresh employee, since i was on night shift i was basicly by myself with 2 other people.

I never interacted with anyone, i was sorta quiet in a way, i worked hard and by myself i got things done by my self, almost completly independant, that plus my capircorn rissing.

I use to come in sometimes to take care of other maters when her shift was on and when my shift wasn't on, i whould talk to the manager or who ever whould be in charge at the time.

but to no one elese, bascily i knew what exaclty had to be done and i whould get what ever was needed done, but i whouldn't interact with anyone but the manager.

So i figure she was probibly like, who's this knew person who doesn't interact with anyone.

Thats when the gestures came in, ignored it, ignored it, didn't care i'm just going to get the job done. In termes of attitude some grumpyness but mostly independantness.

To day i'm still independant, and i'm still am sorta quiet and rarely interact with the other employees, i talk with the managers and some of the employees.

It weird because most of the employees still don't know my name and who i am, am i've been there for months.

Some of them have seen my face and i have talked to some of them, but nothing to deep.

so in a way i'm sorta like the
"unknown employee"

Do i enjoy interacting with other employees, i talk, but nothing to deep,

do i connect to them not rally i sorta do my own thing.

Basicly i think if one where to look at my chart one whould see me as pretty quiet for a gemini,

posted August 17, 2004 01:43 PM              

Could that be another reason why i was draged into her orbit???

But in all i don't know how she thinks she will win, clearly i dont rally care, care.

I care to an extent however i care more about getting answers, and my job done.

but in all, i guess one can never fully understand and aquarious and his/her reasons.
for doing things

One can think this and that but they will never know for sure,why an aquarious does this and that.

posted August 17, 2004 02:11 PM              

An Aquarian may have three or four lovers, and friends online, offline, they are naturally good at getting into other people's realities.

Aquas do care, to an extent, but they like to stay light. They have long memories and want to know that they are loved, the ego is constantly in need of strokes. Aquas like to receive, listen, and absorb everything like a Scorpio.

Physically they move around a lot and often will neglect a lover until that lover leaves, then they will do anything to get that person back.

Case in point, one Aqua male I know with Venus in Pisces came home to find his wife gone, after months of travelling. She lived nearby so he didn't go after her. Then he had a girlfriend who was quite mean to him, a Scorpio. She left him for another and he was obsessed with getting her back. He loved women who were in control, if they showed some kind of mundane side, he was less interested and would start travelling again.

His mental side was hidden from his emotional side. Actually while he knew me he was dating a lovely young woman at a University who was very intelligent. At the same time he pursued the Scorpio woman for emotional reasons. He couldn't see himself with one woman for all things.

He always felt that women were leaving him, and or wanted him for a good time, so he would return the favor. Later he become more interested in unconditional love and understand, he's single.

the fixed nature of Aqua makes Aquas want everything on their own terms, later in life the insecurity fades and they are great people.

But try detaching and looking at an Aqua from outside the box, and you will go crazy. Think of Aquas as deeply emotional people trying to deatch from their own feelings and insecurities.