posted February 12, 2005 07:55 PM              

*sluurp* His birthday's 5th April 1973, (which of course makes him a sexy Ram) but does anyone know what time he was born and where? I think I read that it might be virginia but Im not sure....

posted February 13, 2005 03:52 AM              

google 'pharrell williams birth chart', or 'pharrell williams moon sign' or something cos its there. I checked it out a while back; says his moon is in taurus and his venus is in aries. I think his mars in in aqua. All of which makes him hot

He is less threating that the average black male because he is a lighter shade of black, his features are more european than african and he is an ever-so-delicious fusion of hiphop extrodinaire and cute, li'l skater boy. Nothing complicated there. Just like Beyonce. Though she does heels, not wheels.

posted February 13, 2005 05:43 AM              

And? What does it matter whether white girls like him or not? why was it important to mention? I only want to know his vital stats (ahem, astrologically speaking) I'm an Asian girl (not that its relevant) and I admire him because not only is he beautiful, but he is creative, and also appears to have a lot "up top" too (he went to a school for gifted kids). All that is a very sexy combination to me.

Thanks for the info Danny! Mars in Aqua huh? I have that too. Explains why he can get through so many girls!! He probly hates been tied down. I also get a Piscean vibe from him.

posted February 13, 2005 12:10 PM            

Not sure why I thought it worth mentioning, but I certainly don't consider it a subject to shy away from. Three people now have made mention of their own ethnicity in this connection, which, to me, is far more irrellevent than my own observation.

I'd just like to point out that, when I say "threatening", I am referring, not to an objective characteristic, but, to a perception, that is, a perceived threat. All overtly dominant masculine presences can potentially appear threatening to young girls, and, in the society I live in, this phenomenon is markedly pronounced among anonymous young white women and high-profile black men. It is the nature, not of the individuals concerned, but, of the society we spring from, and the conditioning we have been subject to, which, though it may be regrettable, ought not, I think, to be denied.

Pharrell is clearly in touch with his feminine side, and this, I'm sorry to say, is not altogether common among men, especially in the hip-hop community. Do I have to argue for the fact that the hip-hop community is predominantly black?

posted February 13, 2005 12:52 PM              

When i opened the topic I wanted to discuss him astrologically, in relation to his music and his career - when I returned the topic had changed to one about black men. That's what I dont see as relevant. So he's black, so what? I didnt want to start a debate about his race/influences on the white population. He's a guy i admire thats all. Can we not discuss a celebrity without the fact that he's black being the first thing anyone comments on? Its certainly not a subject to shy away from, but it wasnt my intention. I mentioned my own ethnicity in relation to your comment about white girls (of course, you weren't to know what I am). For some reason I felt your original comment was directed at me.

"Do I have to argue for the fact that the hip-hop community is predominantly black? "

posted February 13, 2005 01:16 PM            

But, I don't think any thread should be characterized by a dogmatic adherence to the original topic. We ought to be free to associate what comes naturally, and threads, like real-life conversations, should be allowed to develop organically, according to what comes, and not according to the dictates of the originator.

If my comment struck you as out of line, it could be that you expected of me a formality which I do not observe. My comment was informal and off-hand, and not intended to signify a matter of profound consequence. You may be attributing to it a significance which I never intended. Race, like everything, is a relevant topic, and I will not avoid it as if it were taboo. That, to me, would be no less misguided than if I were to afford the subject a place of undue significance. I think you imagined that I was doing just that, and I can certainly sympathize with your reaction, in that respect.

In any case, the topic inspired discourse. You replied, I replied, people replied...

Like you, I see no reason to drag it out, but, neither do I wish to stiffle its further expression. I wish only to make myself understood, and, with this last post, I hope that I have, and we can move on. If not, then I would only welcome further discussion.

posted February 13, 2005 01:34 PM              

Danny:

posted February 13, 2005 01:43 PM            

Where were we?

Oh, yeah,...