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Topic: Mars(Aries) Vs Mars(Scorpio)
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SerpeantKing
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posted January 29, 2012 11:41 AM
  
another thing i wanted to add is that MIA is more dynamic and creates an effect on it's enviroment while MIS is more influenced by it's enviroment. it's difficult for a mis person to be dynamic like a mia because to them, to mia, courage is a given... they may have felt fear a few times in their life, but they aren't very familiar with it, so it's safe to say that they don't get scared, naturally, they are not fearful of anything. the things that become biblical in our life because of our fear, is NOTHING to mia. they are not even aware of it. it's more difficult for mia because they are, and they experiance fear. because they have more to work with(they are more perceptive)-and for them to show courage is something they have to learn, unlike mia-when they have done this and when they do attack. because of their perception, at this level, they can tell, right away, if their enemy is a mean son of a ***** or a sitting duck standing in front of them and also they can manipulate your awareness. it's hard to explain but i understand that a scorpios biggest strength is also his biggest weakness. also whoever above said about mic winning over mis because mis is more caring doesn't understand the lack of pity mis can have for its prey. i'd say it's their signature. IP: Logged |
SerpeantKing
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posted February 26, 2012 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Aen:
Aries can win a battle every now and then. Mars in Scorpio will win the war.I just had a pleasure to watch a Gemini/Picses Moon Virgo Asc. Mars in Scorpio in action.
aries is a stronger sign than scorpio. aries is the archtype of the warrior, not scorpio. scorpio, though more strategic in its efforts, is nothing to the aries but someone who likes to play headgames. intimidating others and playing mind games, underhanded ways of getting the best of people is not what being a warrior is all about. when **** really goes down, a crisis happens, scorpios run for cover while aryans rush out to fight. scorpio might get the best of us in a cynical sense, which inspires anger in us-when it comes down to whos got the means to win, aries will always have the last laugh. another thing about aries is we dont know fear. we may experiance it, but when **** gets really serious, we dont care what happens to us. and we're always the first to come to aid of others to protect when others are too scared. another thing, naturally, we do not have many weaknesses. scorpio does, and is just as vulnerable as the next sign, with the exception of aries, like our birthstone, is unbreakable. i have seen scorpios pussy down in front of people that they know can smite them down, while on the other hands, us aries, we bend, but never break, and we dont care who it is. no one will make a ***** out of us. ------------------
Aries Sun
Sagittarious Moon
Scorpio Ascendant(1st decan)
Mercury in Aries
Venus in Aries
Mars in Taurus
Jupiter in Aquarius
Saturn in Scorpio
Uranus in Sagittarious
Neptune in Capricorn
Pluto in Scorpio
Chiron in Gemini
North node in Taurus(ox)
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SerpeantKing
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posted February 26, 2012 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by Aen:
Aries can win a battle every now and then. Mars in Scorpio will win the war.I just had a pleasure to watch a Gemini/Picses Moon Virgo Asc. Mars in Scorpio in action.
aries is a stronger sign than scorpio. aries is the archtype of the warrior, not scorpio. scorpio, though more strategic in its efforts, is nothing to the aries but someone who likes to play headgames. intimidating others and playing mind games, underhanded ways of getting the best of people is not what being a warrior is all about. when **** really goes down, a crisis happens, scorpios run for cover while aryans rush out to fight. scorpio might get the best of us in a cynical sense, which inspires anger in us-when it comes down to whos got the means to win, aries will always have the last laugh. another thing about aries is we dont know fear. we may experiance it, but when **** gets really serious, we dont care what happens to us. and we're always the first to come to aid of others to protect when others are too scared. another thing, naturally, we do not have many weaknesses. scorpio does, and is just as vulnerable as the next sign, with the exception of aries, like our birthstone, is unbreakable. i have seen scorpios pussy down in front of people that they know can smite them down, while on the other hands, us aries, we bend, but never break, and we dont care who it is. no one will make a ***** out of us. ------------------
Aries Sun
Sagittarious Moon
Scorpio Ascendant(1st decan)
Mercury in Aries
Venus in Aries
Mars in Taurus
Jupiter in Aquarius
Saturn in Scorpio
Uranus in Sagittarious
Neptune in Capricorn
Pluto in Scorpio
Chiron in Gemini
North node in Taurus(ox)
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punisher91
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posted September 09, 2012 06:49 PM
as a near scorpio sun conjunct scorpio mars with a scorpio mercury conjucnt mars and pluto, its all about how they use the energy. not all scorpio mars are withdrawn tacticians. i myself think on the fly when in a confrontation and use the environment at my disposal. its about the skill and level of which one has attained in their self discipline. many mars in aries types may be quick to fight, but if they battle a well disciplined mars in scorpio, they my themselves not only outwitted but physically out matched. im not near perfect shape as big as i am at 370 lbs but my physical strength, skill, willpower and endurance make many a challeneger dubious of a encounter with me. most often my size coupled with my intimidatingly confident nature make most people jealously fool hardy enough to challenge me, and when i rise to it they find themselves rethinking their choice of actions. and stamina is based on how willing the person is to fight. ive met a mars in aries with a short temper who i out brawled and he had speed and stamina to his advantage. also, mars in aries types are always putting out energy, whereas mars in scorpio types release when we really need to. never think all scorpios think everything out. remember scorpio is the only sign with multiple symbols of evolution as well as once being the most powerful sign mars ever ruled in antiquity (which i believe it still rules). ------------------
"Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war." in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment. IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted September 10, 2012 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini Nymph:
First off, Scorpio tends to get bogged down by emotionality and petty matters that Aries can just blow off.
Exactly! Sides, you really want to beat Aries at their OWN game ??!!
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punisher91
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posted September 10, 2012 07:05 PM
say it again, im a scorpio stellium and trashed an aries. they are fighter scorpios are WARRIORS.IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 11, 2012 12:59 AM
^those are the same thing. foot soldier level. IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted September 11, 2012 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by punisher91:
say it again, im a scorpio stellium and trashed an aries. they are fighter scorpios are WARRIORS.
hahaha so scorpio are the warriors now and NOT aries ??? WOW. I'm not going to reply or argue because it's like saying 1+7 = 9 , everyone knows it's wrong IP: Logged |
punisher91
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posted September 11, 2012 03:48 PM
if im wrong (which im not) id like to see some one prove it. the real fact remains any mars placement can be better than another based on other factors in a chart, but mars rules both regardless. if you really want to find the answer to that, pit em against each other and see what happens. i know for my self i can crush a mars in aries. im a vis a vis type when it come to battles.------------------
"Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war." in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment. IP: Logged |
punisher91
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posted September 11, 2012 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
hahaha so scorpio are the warriors now and NOT aries ??? WOW.I'm not going to reply or argue because it's like saying 1+7 = 9 , everyone knows it's wrong
then i challenge you to prove it. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 11, 2012 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by punisher91:
then i challenge you to prove it.
punisher91
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punisher91
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posted September 12, 2012 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
punisher91
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sand
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"Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war." in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 12, 2012 01:06 PM
ooh ouch! can you even divide? i know u can't spell. you beat me warrior i am but a mere fighter. (btw what's the difference again? )  IP: Logged |
nikki01
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posted September 12, 2012 01:20 PM
mars in scorpio here, tau moon cap rising .ven in cancer. Leo sun
I cant accept defeat will go all out to get someone back and prove myself. i do pity my enemies at times but if you insult me there is a high price to pay. I work with a aries in mars she has never beat me in any type of battle lol IP: Logged |
punisher91
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posted September 12, 2012 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
ooh ouch! can you even divide? i know u can't spell. you beat me warrior i am but a mere fighter. (btw what's the difference again? )
i can see you spend more time on the computer failing to be a troll. at least i can get up off the computer and do something. the fail is strong within you  IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted September 12, 2012 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by punisher91:
then i challenge you to prove it.
I don't have to prove it. No one should prove to you that the sun rises everyday at dawn... Oh wait , you know that right ?! IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted September 12, 2012 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by punisher91:
i can see you spend more time on the computer failing to be a troll. at least i can get up off the computer and do something. the fail is strong within you
and your not aware that huge ego -such as yours- is the backbone of failure ?? It's pathetic to watch people with such ego and yet it's so funny and self-boosting.
How do you know he doesn't have a life ?! I realized that the ones who don't have a life call people this. You know why ? Let me tell you, I have a life and a reallly interesting one and I think all the people leads the same life. And btw he's not failing to be a troll, he GOT the sense of humor and don bother yourself replying ... I ain't checking this thread again ... I'm very allergic to huge egos and pathetic people. IP: Logged |
punisher91
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posted September 12, 2012 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
and your not aware that huge ego -such as yours- is the backbone of failure ?? It's pathetic to watch people with such ego and yet it's so funny and self-boosting.
How do you know he doesn't have a life ?! I realized that the ones who don't have a life call people this. You know why ? Let me tell you, I have a life and a reallly interesting one and I think all the people leads the same life.And btw he's not failing to be a troll, he GOT the sense of humor and don bother yourself replying ... I ain't checking this thread again ... I'm very allergic to huge egos and pathetic people.
shocking considering i didnt start this mess in the first place. besides umm this entire thread is nothing more than to see whos got the biggest ego and having others stroke it for them. childish folly over which mars rulership is stronger? thats kids fighting over whos tougher. dosent matter because any sign or anybody has its means. its obvious the person who launched at me first over my OPINION on the subject went to the first thing their weak ego could find to blast me about, which was a simple misspelling of darkened. what kind of childishness is that? and admitted out right im scorpio, i aint falling back from that bullcrap challenege even being that im a newbie to the site. frankly anyone who thinks the can attack somone behind the veil of a screen name on a forum must have a weak ego in the first place. thus why whoever sand is, they are nothing more than a troll stirring up trouble for nothing. im done on this subject of childishness, feel free to stroke your own egos online because youre to frightened to try it doing something in real life. and vicky, nobody leads the same life. they just say that to make the low self esteem nobodys feel better about themselves. and last but not least if noone wants to prove it , shut up about it. cause if you cant i will prove how little it matters.
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"Si vis pacem, para bellum - If you want peace, prepare for war." in certain extreme situations, the law is inadequate. In order to shame its inadequacy, it is necessary to act outside the law. To pursue... natural justice. This is not vengeance. Revenge is not a valid motive, it's an emotional response. No, not vengeance. Punishment. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted September 12, 2012 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by punisher91:
besides umm this entire thread is nothing more than to see whos got the biggest ego and having others stroke it for them. childish folly over which mars rulership is stronger? thats kids fighting over whos tougher. dosent matter because any sign or anybody has its means.
yet.. all your posts are 1 big scorpio ego stroke. from the name, to the location, you have read too much astro scorpio kool aid and are drunk with it. i too shall take the high road and be done with this thread! p.s. vicky i wud like to challenge you to a wrestling match to prove to me that arians are indeed warriors (or fighters ) IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini
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posted September 15, 2012 05:24 AM
I've read everyone's posts here and they're all very fascinating points.I'm a Gemini/Pisces/Libra with Taurus Mars in 8th house. My Mars trines Saturn and Jupiter, sextile Moon, opposite Uranus and inconjunct Pluto. You would think that I'm a soft, sensitive, and merciful person, and yes, I am. However, I'm also a survivor and I survived childhood that was filled with instability and physical, emotional, and psychological abuse. As a Taurus Mars, I have battled more Scorpio Mars people and have trampled them to the ground, starting with my father. Yeah, they are tough, however, they are also emotionally weak. Since my Mars is in the 8th house, I am VERY familiar with Scorpio Mars tactics and I'm not afraid to use any against them if they get in my way. Aries Mars, on the other hand, I rarely ever have any issues with them. I find them to be quite direct and honorable, albeit short tempered and always jumping the gun, but they're not manipulative or out to control people like Scorpio Mars does. I've also encountered quite a few Cap Mars and they've all been quite helpful, if not enthralled by me which I can understand because Taurus and Cap like each other. I like Cap Mars a lot and I understand their energy. In the Draconic chart, I have Cap Mars. I'll have to agree with people who say that in a sudden fight and some conflict pops up out of the blue, Aries Mars would win, hands down. Aries Mars gets more firery when they have to think on their toes and they love initiating. My best friend has Aries Mars and she's always go-go-go! She also a high school teacher so she loves putting her students in line and does an excellent job of doing that. When she and I fight, guess who wins? I do. A few years ago she said she couldn't handle how persistent I am and was bothered that I did not cease when she already waved the white flag. She said I like beating things into the dirt and wringing every drop of blood possible when I get mad and she point out that it really hurt her. I had absolutely NO idea I was capable of doing that and most of all, unaware that I did that to her when she really was willing to admit defeat. Ewww… That's a good example of why Taurus Mars is detriment. Scorpio Mars needs a lot of time to study their opponent and figure out weak points and then subversively attack or rather, I should use the word, infiltrate. In that sense, Scorpio Mars would be the one to win if it's an on going war. But Scorpio Mars is pretty cruel and their violence is linked to their emotional crisis based upon love/rejection. I know this first hand because of my father and in addition, I'm friends with a LOT of Scorpio Mars people and we get along really well. But I know and they know I can and will destroy them if they ever cross me. Scorpio Mars can wait a long time for revenge, but Taurus Mars can wait for eternity. My father has 5 Scorpio planets in the 8th house including Mars, and he has Aries rising. To add strangeness to the mix, he has Aquarius moon which helps him maintain his "coolness." From the time I was 4-7 years old, my dad was hitting my mom and she would be hospitalized, and would come home a lot of bruises. Sometimes he'd hit me but even as a small child, I always fought back. If I ever caught my dad hitting my mom, I would defend her as much as I could so most of the time when my dad did whale on my mom, I was at school or staying over my friends', etc. One afternoon I woke up from a nap, I heard screaming and ran out to the living room and I was 7 at the time. I didn't scream or shout or anything, I just went straight up to my dad to prevent him from hitting my mom further and he started hitting me. I got so sick and tired of our house being a battlefiled for years and my mom didn't do anything to stop it. I was seething with anger for years. After I got hit, I slowly got up and walked over to the kitchen and got all sorts of weapons and used them against my dad. It got to the point of when I became the little terrorizer when I stabbed him with my stainless steel scissors. Mentally, I had enough of it all, I didn't care who would die from the whole mess but I swore it wasn't going to be me and if my mom survived that, I made sure she wasn't going to get whaled on again.
Anyway, I blacked out after that and we 3 all woke up in the hospital. I had lost track of rany sense of time or concept of the outside world during that episode. Thank goodness the neighbors called the cops and ambulance for us. That was really a blessing because my mom and I were friends with the neighbors. My Libra rising and my mom's Venus conjunct Asc (she's always been very beautiful) makes it virtually impossible for us to go unnoticed as we tend to attract attention and make friends quickly. Anyway, after that tornado of a blood bath, my dad never hit my mom again. To this day, I still carry those stainless steel scissors with me. They were actually a gift to me from mom. Ironic, isn't it? IP: Logged |
punisher91
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posted September 15, 2012 11:58 AM
fair play on this one anbody can read these links and decide
http://www.makara.us/04mdr/01writing/03tg/planets/mars/mars_scorpio.htm
http://www.makara.us/04mdr/01writing/03tg/planets/mars/mars_aries.htm  in  IP: Logged |
a_may_gemini
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posted September 15, 2012 09:42 PM
Oh, I forgot to add, for the record, Muhammad Ali has Taurus Mars, not Aries. Taurus Mars can take beatings for a long duration of time but they never give up. I use to take beatings from my dad and I never gave up on having a good family relationship with him. All my life I've fought with my Scorpio Mars dad and finally, a few years ago, he said "You win."Aries Mars wouldn't stick around long enough to see if their battles amounted to anything... it's not their nature. They are impatient and like things to happen instantly and they like to move on and have no problems abandoning fights. IP: Logged |
astrofan123
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posted October 31, 2012 07:30 PM
well Mars in the myth is the warrior
so Aries is the warrior.
Pluto in the myth is underworld
so Scorpio is the assassin.
I don't know who will win between the two. that will depend on other things than the sun or mars. reminds of the movie Serenity somehow
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NativelyJoan
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posted November 01, 2012 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by a_may_gemini:
Oh, I forgot to add, for the record, Muhammad Ali has Taurus Mars, not Aries. Taurus Mars can take beatings for a long duration of time but they never give up. I use to take beatings from my dad and I never gave up on having a good family relationship with him. All my life I've fought with my Scorpio Mars dad and finally, a few years ago, he said "You win."Aries Mars wouldn't stick around long enough to see if their battles amounted to anything... it's not their nature. They are impatient and like things to happen instantly and they like to move on and have no problems abandoning fights.
In his Vedic chart Ali has Mars is in Aries, sometimes it's better to ask questions before giving answers. Taurus has more patience being a fixed sign, slower to boil. However Taurus is not known for their fighting abilities their more known for their inertia (fixed earth). Other things play into whether or not an Aries Mars or a Scorpio Mars has the fortitude to stick around towards the end of a fight. MIA might not be a fan of follow through, but they are fierce fighters. And a good way to understand or find out about an Aries Mars's nature is by asking one, instead of making an assumption. I've never seen a MIA walk away from a fight. There are various ways to define what constitutes "giving up." Giving up to an Aries (Moon and Mars in Aries here) means fighting till the fight is over. When you enter the ring, there's no looking towards the exit, Aries is cardinal fire, that burst of potent raw instinctive energy. In that moment there's one objective, and one goal which is attack. They rely on their physical abilities more than any other sign. I should know because on top of possessing MIA, I know many of them and tend to always run into them. But as stated before by many over the years, MIA and MIS are two very different types of individuals and fighters. They tend not to even encounter each other, especially not in term of physical fights. Outside of personal biases, it's near impossible to accurately measure whether it's these two placements within someone's chart that allow them the ability to win any particular fight. Too many other things are at play. IP: Logged |
BBMonroe
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posted November 02, 2012 03:29 PM
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