posted March 26, 2005 10:35 AM              

But something came to mind last evening. How when you read interpretations of Capricorn's, they look like old people when they are born, but act more and more young-at-heart the older they get. And I thought this was so interesting, as things start off difficult, but then get easier, when it comes to Saturn. There's really something to be said for that.

posted March 26, 2005 11:18 AM            

I have often thought that Saturn and Cappies get too much bad press.

posted March 26, 2005 11:19 AM              

My Saturn is transiting my Mercury in my 9th house. Lately, I have been feeling more intensity with my words when I am talking with my friends and family. Kinda like I really want to get my universal thoughts across...thoughts that apply in multiple areas.

For example: I was talking with a friend about people who feel 'trapped' in some way in their life. My thoughts were that people a never really trapped, they just THINK they are trapped. To me, life is not about just accepting a limiting circumstance/situation (like a job or relationship you dislike). It is about going beyond the 'trapped' feeling....listening to your intution that is telling you something is not right...and DOING something different. Find a different plan if your current one is not working. The easiest thing is the world is to do Nothing. Doing nothing about a situation is easy. People say: "Oh well, this is just the way it is...". Not looking any further.

Going through that open door into the unknown is much more difficult. Too many people do not have the guts, strength or courage to make changes. They just take the easy way and do Nothing. (Missing out on the potential of better things I might add!)

I think I stunned my friend with this thought-line. It must have hit a chord...she just became quiet. (We were talking about another situation re-a unhappy co-worker). Something more is going on there but she has not discussed it with me. (But truthfully, I have sensed some type of conflict with her in her marriage).

Now I feel sensitive that I am expressing myself too much. Being a Gem, I am always expressing myself and have lots of people who are my friends. We have fantastic discussions as well.

Maybe my Saturn is making my words more intense? Too personal? More sober? Possibly more thought-provoking. (Even if it hits a sensitive spot with someone..that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad does it?

What do you think????

posted March 26, 2005 12:00 PM              

I don't really agree with AJ's assessment that Capricorn start out old then get younger - that's not my experience. Rather, they start out burdened with a deep sense of duty and responsibility and grew into it, like growing into shoes that are at first way too big. And when they reach that point where they can bear that cap birden, they are often very good, honorable and strong people who have a genuine sense of fulfillment in their lives. That is, in better situations. In not so good situations, the burden grinds them down, and makes them bitter, narrowminded, bigoted and cynical.

If Caps tend to get bad press, I suspect it's because that is because they are capable of impressing a lot of influence in their lives. So when it's bad, it can be very hurtful. And speaking fairly as someone who has been badly hurt by Caps, that's simply the burden Caps must bear, for better or worse. Capricorn projects that sense of resonsibility unto its native, like its polar Cancer, and like Cancer, it can take a truly unhealthy turn as the individual matures and make choices on how to cope with the problem they face throughout life. That sense of responsibility often encourages Cap natives to be the first the stand up and take action - a highly admirable quality, for sure, but when it's a Cap of dubious character, the actions that Cap takes may not be so admirable in the end.

Like Cancers, Capricorn natives are very much works in progress, and so much depends on their life expriences and choices they make. And those choices determine how well that Cap grews into its "shoes." Hence why Caps can really run the gambit between the the most saintly and most evil people in our history. MLK, a Cap Sun, was more than willing to bear that responsibility to tackle social problems of his times, and did so most responsibly and honorably. Hilter, a Cap moon, felt a deep sense of resonsibility about the social problems of his time as well, and sought to tackle them with equally intense resolve and determination, but there his similarities to MLK end. Certainly, at any point MLK could have turned to violence, intolerance and bigotry, but choose not to - his choice of action was based in the overall quality of his charcter and it made all the difference in the world, literally. Could you imagine how difference our history over the past 50 years would be if he had made the kind of choices Hitler had made? MLK and Hitler are both great men who were great largely due to their Capricorn qualities, but that one became a great good and the other a great evil largely hinged on the choices they made in the course of their lives that molded them in one way or the other.

posted March 26, 2005 01:11 PM            

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Capricorn natives are very much works in progress, and so much depends on their life expriences and choices they make

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We are all works in progress, and all of our experiences depend on the choices that we make. This is not exclusive to Cappies, or anyone else.

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And speaking fairly as someone who has been badly hurt by Caps

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Caps don't have any exclusivity on hurting people.

Do you know Randall, the owner of LindaLand? He is a triple Cappy, and a finer man you would not find anywhere...

Now for Hitler, the astrological indicators of his negative traits don't stem solely from a Moon in Cappy, which can mean much wisdom in an individual. Hitler also had Saturn in the 10th house, which can be one of the most difficult placements there is.

However...energies only indicate. We are free to do iwth them what we will.

posted March 28, 2005 06:19 AM              

I sure like the strenght that transit gave me.

This transit sort wiped everyhing clean, so now I can take the transiting Pluto square natal Moon/Pluto sort of 'show me what you have in store' manner. It's sure not an easy transit, but now without that extra baggage I had before, the road looks much better.

posted March 28, 2005 09:48 AM              

But it rules my moon and yes Capricorn - bad press always, specially the moon- oh well I wuv my moon anyhow.. I find the wicked witch from hell interpretations kinda funny though muhahahahaha

*gets on her broom and flies outta the thread*