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Topic: The 12th house and you
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sassygrrrl
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posted May 08, 2005 05:10 PM
 
Capricorn on the 12th House cusp - no planets in the 12th although I do have the asteroids Juno and Pallas in there. My 12th House ruler Saturn is in Pisces in my 1st House & is Retrograde. As the 12th is supposed to hold clues to past lives, my 12th seemingly indicates some kind of heavy karma as my sad little Piscean Saturn also opposes my Uranus & Pluto. IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted May 08, 2005 06:09 PM
Daydreamer, Anais Nin was a famous writer of soft erotica, and she wrote her books in the 30's I believe. Natasha
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Marlene
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posted May 08, 2005 06:44 PM
To DayDreamer:
Honey,you're getting married in a year 
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I'd like to know what the 12th house Sun ppl are hiding
My older sister has
Sun in Scorpio and 12th House
Retrograde Mercury in Libra and 12th House
Venus in Scorpio and 12th House:
Mars in Scorpio and 12th House
Uranus in Libra and 12th HouseWhat she's hiding?
Two sons,constant mental/sexual abuse inside the marriage,the death of her husband,drug use,sexual abstinence for almost four years and a Playboy photoshoot
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DayDreamer
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posted May 08, 2005 07:08 PM
Thanks sthenri, this should help me with one of my lexis.Wow Marlene, how did you come up with that?   Did you just find this out about your sister? I hope she's getting as much help as she needs.  IP: Logged |
Marlene
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posted May 08, 2005 07:15 PM
She's a very happy mother now,she has cut all that crap some years ago...Me and her consist of a very special phenomenon actaully,i might make a thread about it...  Not that i'm doing any better...
I have sort of a "wild" lifestyle too... Screwed up childhoods IP: Logged |
lalalinda
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posted May 08, 2005 08:25 PM
Marlene, I would like to see your chart with Jupiter in Pisces in the 12th (Pisces co-rules Jupiter)I have Scorpio on the 12th house cusp with my Asc ruler Jupiter in the 12th in Sag. I find myself doing Pisces things even though I lack water (except for Neptune)
Right now I'm helping a friend, whos father is old, sick and dying, I have found myself sharing responsibilities with him while he is away (I check on and tend to his father every 30 minutes or so) I do this because I can't stand the thought of anyone being alone while they die, to me this is so sad, and frightning that I make myself do this.
There is NO amount of money that could keep me doing this as in a career, and after doing it I've got to give a lot of credit to Pisces and their compassion. One last thing, When you're Ascendant sign is the same as the 12th house cusp, YOU are you own worst enemy. IP: Logged |
scorpbaby
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posted May 08, 2005 08:48 PM
12th house Mars/Libra has caused me a lot of trouble. Virgo is on the house cusp though.
Ever since I began reading about this placement it made so much sense how it has impacted my life in a very strong way. I tend to attract some dangerous situations/people in my life. Somehow I always manage to come out alive with sanity left (thanks to Pluto 1st)But its no way to live with such anxiety. I come from a long line of women that are non aggressive/ assertive types. I can't even remember how many times I've heard my mother or grandmother say "don't let people mistake your kindness for a weakness". It's weird we are all strong there's just something missing. All of them have had to actively learn to own their aggresiveness. I know this is my lesson as well. My case is classic, straight from the texts Mars 12th. I keep meeting people who end up either acting out on me, underestimating me, thinking I am "fragile" or meek. I let them cross me a few times because either I'm too shooken up to react or I just want to be "nice" & "appeasing"(Libra) . And then after maybe the 20th time I let things slide I sting unexpectedly and its poisonous. Does anyone have any helpful advice on this one?
It's bumming me out. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted May 09, 2005 01:13 AM
Marlene are you married? Juno is supposed to represent your marriage partner. With Juno in Pisces/12 th house he should have a strong Pisces influence in his chart…I have Juno in Pisces too, but in the 11 th house.lalalinda that is very sweet and kind of you to care for your friends sick father. scorpbaby...Would you go as far as to say that Mars influencing the 12 th = hidden enemies? Hmmm...I have to think about this. I can relate with people mistaking my humbleness and helpfulness for weakness, thinking they can take advantage of me. I will let it go the first few times. After that I’ll give them a piece of my mind and give them a taste of what they will get from me if they continue to think they could treat me that way. If I hold it in for too long I really blow them away and go beyond revenge. Try not to let things slide to the 20th time...at least hint to the person that you do not appreciate and won’t tolerate such treatment. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted May 09, 2005 01:22 AM
I think Chiron in the 12th/Taurus may have something to do with my Taurus mother as I was growing up...and still. Anyone else with this have mother issues?  IP: Logged |
Marlene
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posted May 09, 2005 04:48 AM
I used to be married,i'm still in the process of taking the divorce.
And i have no intention on marrying ever again.He had:
Sun and Moon in Scorpio
Ascendant in Cancer, Moon in the Fourth House
Venus in the Second House
Sun in the Fourth House
Moon in the Fourth House
Mars Opposition Ascendant
Saturn in the Ninth House In Details from Astrodienst:
Sun Scorpio 08°59'57 04 direct
Moon Scorpio 07°20'10 04 direct
Mercury Scorpio 07°53'51 04 retrograde
Venus Virgo 22°36'49 02 direct
Mars Capricorn 07°25'05 06/7 direct
Mars is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Jupiter Virgo 02°04'55 02 direct
Saturn Aries 06°50'05 09 retrograde
Uranus Virgo 27°27'44 03 direct
Neptune Scorpio 23°31'21 04/5 direct
Neptune is technically near the end of house 4 and is interpreted in house 5.
Pluto Virgo 22°04'55 02 direct
True Node Aries 27°56'56 09/10 retrograde
True Node is technically near the end of house 9 and is interpreted in house 10.
House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 09°18'14
2nd House Leo 17°23'16
3rd House Virgo 26°40'31
Imum Coeli Libra 29°18'46
5th House Scorpio 25°01'03
6th House Sagittarius 17°07'06
Descendant Capricorn 09°18'14
8th House Aquarius 17°23'16
9th House Pisces 26°40'31
Medium Coeli Aries 29°18'46
11th House Taurus 25°01'03
12th House Gemini 17°07'06
Major aspects
Sun Conjunction Moon 1°40
Sun Conjunction Mercury 1°06
Sun Sextile Mars 1°35
Sun Sextile Jupiter 6°55
Sun Quincunx Saturn 2°10
Sun Trine Ascendant 0°18
Moon Conjunction Mercury 0°34
Moon Sextile Mars 0°05
Moon Sextile Jupiter 5°15
Moon Quincunx Saturn 0°30
Moon Trine Ascendant 1°58
Mercury Sextile Mars 0°29
Mercury Sextile Jupiter 5°49
Mercury Quincunx Saturn 1°04
Mercury Trine Ascendant 1°24
Venus Conjunction Uranus 4°51
Venus Sextile Neptune 0°55
Venus Conjunction Pluto 0°32
Mars Trine Jupiter 5°20
Mars Square Saturn 0°35
Mars Opposition Ascendant 1°53
Saturn Square Ascendant 2°28
Uranus Sextile Neptune 3°56
Uranus Conjunction Pluto 5°23
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°26 He tried to change me,my personality,habits and friends,but he was great in bed
(But i am happy with my Cappie  ) My chart with my Jupiter in Pisces/12th house http://img24.echo.cx/img24/5439/chartpicmarlene9ol.jpg
(my sis has her Jupiter in Pisces but in the 5th house)
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DayDreamer
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posted May 10, 2005 12:16 AM
Hey Marlene...well he definitly wasn't the one! Does your cappie have some neptune/pisces/12th house influence in his chart. Does that link connect to your chart? I don't see the 12th house Jupiter...but alot of 10th house planets. I don’t want to generalize, but I have a scorp friend right now who has kind of ruined her and her husband and her children’s lives...well I don’t want to say ruined...don't know what the word would be...she’s been pushing her virgo hubby to become a doc for well over a decade...and still no luck...he’s been studying and in school since they got married. For the last few years, for example, he’s been studying in a different country away from his family. The kids never see their father...and when he comes home they don’t even run to see him. They could care less. She pushed him to give up his specialty and try to get into one med field that paid a lot more...one which he didn’t want to do. He looks like he’s aged ten years in the last two years. Anyway...she even says it herself...but she also says that shes ruined his life because he married her...but that’s not it at all...if only she would accept him for who he was/is and make due with what he earns..plus, mind you this girl is highly educated...yet she refuses to work. Oh well. IP: Logged |
BlueTopaz124
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posted May 10, 2005 01:24 AM
My Mars is in my 12th, but sits very close to my ascendant and I have Mercury (in Scorpio) in my 12th also, very strong placement for that one.
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libra78
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posted May 10, 2005 01:34 AM
I have my saturn (virgo) in the 12th house. I wonder if the virgo and the pisces (12th house) balance things out a bit? *shrug*?IP: Logged |
Marlene
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posted May 10, 2005 05:49 AM
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Hey Marlene...well he definitly wasn't the one! Does your cappie have some neptune/pisces/12th house influence in his chart. Does that link connect to your chart? I don't see the 12th house Jupiter...but alot of 10th house planets.
Our synastry chart (i hope it's helful) http://img142.echo.cx/img142/29/synastry7rw.jpg My Cappie has
Venus in Pisces and 7th House
Chiron in Pisces and 7th House
Part of Fortune in Pisces and 7th House
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Neptune Trine Chiron
Neptune Trine Fortune
Neptune Sextile Vertex
Neptune Square East Point
Pisces have a 13.0% influence in his chart,second after Libra and his Neptune a 5.5% influence,10nth after Capricorn,his sun. Was it ANY helpful? *crosses fingers*
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amisha121877
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posted May 10, 2005 10:47 AM
Like Scorpbaby and BlueTopaz124 - I too have Mars in the 12th house. I wonder if that is why I look like I'm always thinking/scheming - actually, I am. I LOVE competition (of course, in my own def. of competition), I get angry quickly, I find it hard to work in a team-like atmosphere - I rather work alone although the idea of being involved with a great team is pleasing to me although I often want to be alone with the drop of a dime, people find me more attractive when I'm angry than when I'm happy so a lot of people try to get me angry - especially men, in physical confrontation and extremely competitive situations I may "black" out aka not be able to recall the course of events of that situation. Sports and sex are a source of relaxation/meditation. As i get older - I've noticed that i grind my teeth quite a bit, and i plot/think A LOT, i know/have known individuals of "shady" character and individuals of "influential" chracter and been involved in such ventures, and I don't have many "friends" but the people I do consider "friends" and "family" are very important to me and I will fight for them if need be - without thinking twice and love it, nothing surprises me, and I follow my own beat regardless of what it looks like from the outside or to other people. and places like lindaland and such give me the opportunity to not succumb to "working in secret and acting behind people's backs" even if it's still not clear what my objective is to others or myself. I feel very loved - even if it's because of what's going on in my 9th house.I have Mars in Leo in the 12th house. Here is what it says at www.astro.com about mars in the 12th house though - if you are interested: Mars in the Twelfth House 12th hs
You may often be afraid to assert yourself because you feel defeated, and you are sure that any effort is futile. Your attitude may have resulted from being with people who haven't encouraged you very much. You must build up your self-confidence and disregard anyone who makes you feel bad about yourself. You tend to work in secret and to act behind people's backs, which you should try to avoid. However, you are really quite a strong individual, and once you overcome your childish fears about yourself, you can be very effective. Another positive point is that you work very well alone. All you need is for people not to discourage you.
THIS IS MY 12TH HOUSE MAKE-UP:
MARS IN LEO
Mars Square Midheaven (in taurus-9th house)
Mars Square Uranus (in scorpio-3rd house)
Moon Trine Mars (moon in aries-9th house)
Venus Trine Mars (venus in sag - 4th house)
Mars Trine Neptune (neptune in sag - 4th house)
Mars Sextile Pluto (pluto in libra - 3rd house)
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DayDreamer
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posted May 11, 2005 11:16 PM
I secretly love competition too...but at the same time I shy away from it...I'm too damn shy. Thank you Pisces moon and south node!With Mars/Aries ruled 12th house, plenty of scheming should be common...our subconscious is too active. My conscious is pretty active too. The other day I had a few ideas of what I wouldve like to do to a certain someone who’s hidden intentions were not all too nice to me. Contemplated it for awhile...weighed the pros and cons. Foresight is highly important. I looked at where my actions would have taken our working relationship. I didn't want to go that route. The next day I decided to do the opposite of what I was scheming. I gave her a present out of the blue.  She was soooo not expecting that, and became a little too nice to me. She wouldnt stop talking to me, which I started to find annoying cuz I couldnt get any work done...lol! So now we’re on good terms again and I feel better about working with her. (Plus the other day, I did give her some of my sweet cunning gab to show that I know what she was trying to do with me) Definitely didn’t have much encouragement growing up, in fact I had the opposite. On a constant daily basis pure and cruel criticism, yelling and put downs! And the few times I did get encouragement it scared the hell out of me, and made me feel shy. Any sort of physical activity and competition (with metals especially) is suppose to help with Aries cusp or Mars in 12 th house.
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sthenri
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posted May 11, 2005 11:27 PM
Marlene I was looking at your ex's chart,
Venus conjunct Uranus and Pluto, ouch!
And then Sun trine Ascendant, and Mars square Saturn, with Saturn in the 9th and a 4th house sun on top of that. Pretty self centered, I think I dated a similar chart, double ouch.
I like Cappie's too,Natasha
12th house ruled by Scorpio, contains Neptune, Neptune is almost conjunct Mars and I am especially drawn to those who have Neptune square or opposite Mars. Neptune and Mars together can heal emotions, but can attract drinkers, and people who live life to the extreme. My Neptune is also opposite my Sun causing me to be a dreamer, and a partner, My 12th house is big for me, and I love sixth house and 12th house people. Natasha
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DayDreamer
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posted May 11, 2005 11:33 PM
Opps Marlene...I was going to write something for you too...about what I did notice about your chart. First of all. You have a lot of planets in your 8th house/scorpio. No wonder you have alot of secrets! They aspect his Venus (or is it your Jupiter..hard to see your chart) well in your 12th. Definitely a loving attraction. But you have Saturn in the 5th house, which is opposite his Capricorn sun (ruled by Saturn). I wonder about that one.
Some other nice synastry I noticed:
Your Jupiter in his 7th house!
Your moon in his 5th house
His Venus is in your 12th house!
Your Pluto in his 7th house would be challenging to a relationship
By the way...where did you figure that I would be married within a year? Were you kidding?????
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taurean_scorpion
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posted May 12, 2005 11:29 PM
I have a lot of planets in the 12th house and i heard repeats aren't good...o well.Here they are: Sun in Taurus in 12th, Mercury in Taurus in 12th, Venus in Gemini in 12th, Jupiter in Taurus in 12th...can you interpret this? Thanks!!!!! IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted May 13, 2005 08:10 PM
Hey taurean_scorpionNo need to hide your intellect (mercury 12th), check out the website links under other posts in this topic.
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taurean_scorpion
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posted May 14, 2005 12:18 AM
I do admit that I am very insecure of my intellect, and I get frustrated a lot because of it. Thanks for commenting back DayDreamer! IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted May 14, 2005 12:58 AM
Hey sthenri, you said you like people w/ planets in 6th and 12th houses?? well i have a whole bunch in them...haha. Sry its kind of hard to read.planet sign degree house motion
Sun Taurus 12°28'13 12 direct
Moon Scorpio 20°53'09 06 direct
Mercury Taurus 25°56'16 12 direct
Venus Gemini 23°50'50 12 direct
Mars Aquarius 17°12'39 10 direct
Jupiter Taurus 12°36'39 12 direct
Saturn Capricorn 02°10'38 06 retrograde
Uranus Capricorn 00°43'31 06 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 10°04'27 07 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 11°09'27 06 retrograde
True Node Pisces 21°59'41 11 retrograde IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted May 14, 2005 01:59 PM
The 12th House in my Chart is where the Empty Space in my T-Square lands, colored by the influence of Aries. I have no Planets in the 12th.The T-Square can be thought of as a three-legged table. You keep teetering among the three, but when the pressure gives out and the three legs search for that alleviating fourth leg, it sort of just FALLS over because there is no leg. That place where there is no leg is the Empty Space, and that 12th House Cusp being colored by impulsive Aries is like taking a bungy jump backwards and blindfolded without checking the bungy cord first. Not only is it like falling into a dark abyss, but you hope you're 12th House of intuition is as quick as the impulsive Aries which demands action now! IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted May 15, 2005 08:43 PM
Taurean_Scorpion...I use to be like that too! Don't let anyone put you down for what and how you think, and never be afraid to show your intellect. Everyone thinks differently, and the world would be a bland place if we all thought alike.Hmmm...astrojunkie, not sure if I would want to be around you when the pressure gives way.  Shoot I use to know what a T square was once upon a time ago. I think mine lands in my first house in gemini..I guess when I’ve got relationship issues (i.e. with the tensions in 11th/moon, 7th/Neptune, and 5th/Saturn) I tumble on my 1st. IP: Logged |
Tranquil Poet
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posted May 16, 2005 12:57 AM
Gemini in the 12th house alsoGemini sun Gemini mercury
my partner has capricorn sun
capricorn in the 12th house Is that bad? :/
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