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Topic: Are we brainwashed to act like our signs?
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suzyque
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posted May 24, 2005 03:23 PM
 
I was thinking about something i heard which stated that by reading and hearing so much about what our signs are supposed to be like in behaviour and personality, do we not start to unconciously take on those characteristics when we would otherwise not behave that way?In other words if you are a particular sign and you keep hearing that you are supposed to be funny or witty or rude or aggresive etc,etc. How much does that really influence your behavior? I just start to wonder that with all the analysis of my natal chart that i have done if i haven't programmed myself to some extent to behave that way? IP: Logged |
Battle of Evermore
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posted May 24, 2005 03:44 PM
I think that we are all brainwashed to some extent.
Knowing about astrology helps me to fight the negative traits of what I might normally be though.I think that we are all looking for excuses as to how we behave. Not everything is controlled be astrology. We have free will, and I also believe that a higher spirit is guiding what we become. For me, I think that we are all going to act somewhat like our signs anyway, but knowing about astrology makes me try to bring out the positive traits in my chart. Maybe it acctually brainwashing us into better people then? IP: Logged |
suzyque
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posted May 24, 2005 03:56 PM
That is a very good response BVE and i think you are definelty on the right track. While i have said similar things to myself when debating this question i just wanted to be sure. I do feel that astrology has helped me focus on the positive and try to minimize the negative. I will keep in mind the idea of Free Will because i think that that is the ultimate deciding factor when i comes down to it. Thanks.IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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posted May 24, 2005 03:59 PM
Interesting theory!  I agree in some way in that if you study astrology as much as a lot of us on this site do then you can start to become stuck in stereotypes, influencing your views and even yourself. Other the other hand, people who don't know anything and don't believe in astrology (even ones who claim they're nothing like their sign) IMO always seem to show their sign's characteristics in some way. Although, following your theory, we could just think they do because we are so stuck in our views, we pick out those bits of their personality... It makes you wonder... if, when we met someone new and they told us the wrong sign, whether we'd just believe it and think- for example, "Yeah, they're so Piscean" or whether we'd click and think "That's not right". Ok, so probably not! But it would be interesting...  IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted May 24, 2005 07:52 PM
The ones who don't know anything about astrology are the one who fit their Sign the closest. I think astrology can be used to justify negative traits and behavior (and give people reason not to rise above), but mainly I think those more learned about astrology tend to overcome, deviate, and accentuate the positive--making them in many ways not at all like the stereotypical dictates of their Sign. ------------------
"There is no use trying," said Alice; "one can't believe impossible things." "I dare say you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." Lewis Carroll IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted May 24, 2005 07:57 PM
Yeah. I'm aware of that and I try not to base my character on everything it says about my sign. But reading about my chart helped me understand more about myself and what I need to fix within me. There are times though when i disagree w/ some of the stuff it says but most of the time I'm just surprised at how accurate everything is. But overall it just helps me relate to others better and learn more about myself and how much more i can grow into a better person than I'm now. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted May 24, 2005 09:34 PM
I have a friend who doesn't believe in Astrology, and when I was reading one of Linda's book it was totally dsecribing him, so I asked him, and sure enough he IS a Taurus. It was like straight out of the book. His love for his mother, his sing-song voice, his affinity for music, his love of gadgets and earthy jewelry. That revelation was one of the most powerful indicators to me that there's something to Astrology.I think all of our best building blocks are contained within our charts. I love that my chart does explain some of the contradictions in my nature. I've often considered taking the best aspects of my astrological profile, and putting them in one document for me to read before bed as a way of reinforcing the good parts of me. I still haven't done that, though.  I feel that if I can live up to my best traits then I'll have done a pretty good job with myself. That's a kind of brainwashing I would enjoy to go through. For me, it's all about finding my own core, and getting through to the real me. I think it's important. I want to take out environmental factors that play on my personality, because they might be stifling. IP: Logged |
DayDreamer
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posted May 24, 2005 09:44 PM
Can you believe, I actually have a few Aquarian friends, yes Aquarian, who do not believe in Astrology! Maybe that's not surprising, because we are unpredictable.  IP: Logged |
lovely*
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posted May 24, 2005 11:28 PM
Randall~ you should post more. IP: Logged |
Archer
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posted May 24, 2005 11:55 PM
incomplete knowledge is dangerous. astrology dos cloud our thinking. but once we go deep into it it explains the very basic nature we have and also our life events. thoe fascinated by their sign do tend to behave like their sign. i used to intentionally boss my little brother when i learnt i'm sa double sag. (good that i stopped, he is a double leo!!!)IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted May 25, 2005 12:07 AM
I barely know anyone that believes in astrology most of them don't...cuz they merely look at their sun signs. IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted May 25, 2005 12:27 AM
Randall,  .IP: Logged |
26taurus
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posted May 25, 2005 12:29 AM
And good point taurean-scorpion. I know what you mean. I see the same thing.  There is alot more to it. And it is meant to better us, not mold us.IP: Logged |
Tranquil Poet
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posted May 25, 2005 01:02 AM
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ariestiger
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posted May 25, 2005 04:35 AM
When I was about 14 I started getting into Astroogy in more depth, Moon, Venus signs etc. and found that I had a lot of Pisces influence. Call it gullibility, being a teenager, what you will, but almost consciously I started feeling desperately wronged, sorry for myself, etc. All of which did not exactly conspire to help me, until I started to pull myself together a bit more. Pisces doesn't need to be a victim.
Tapping into the positive aspects of one's Sun sign is perhaps the most important, it's extremely important for Aries women, because repressing it can have disastrous consequences!LOL AriesTiger IP: Logged |
neptune's mermaid
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posted May 25, 2005 06:49 AM
That’s a very interesting point. I’m not to sure about brainwashing, but I do think I make excuses for people because of astrology.Like when my Libra mum is being indecisive, I think it’s cute. But I don’t think it’s cute if my dad or brother does it lol. I’m more than happy to put my gigantic ego aside and let my Leo girl take centre stage, but I never do that with my Aqua friend - and I’ve known her longer. Or like how if a Sag I know makes a stupid comment about me…I’d just laugh. If an Aries friend did that, then we’re taking it out side. But then there are things like how I behave around signs. I now find myself walking on eggshells with my Scorpio girls and I’m super careful with fellow Pisceans…my Virgo Moon can be very dangerous lol. This is why I don’t like knowing someone’s sign…but it’s hard if you make friends with them IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted May 25, 2005 07:31 AM
The greatest character in the story of your life is detailed at least partially in your astrological chart. It's good to find out why some chapters were written the way they were, and maybe have some influence on how your character acts in the future. Knowing your strong points and your liabilities can be very useful.I am Capricorn. I use. IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted May 25, 2005 11:28 AM
to an extent , i feel . IP: Logged |
The Mutable Night Force
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posted May 25, 2005 12:40 PM
When I can be bothered, I analyze.When I can't, I sleep. Or go on the computer or watch TV which requires very little brainpower.
Actually, I know this sounds strange, but I really don't think of myself as a Virgo. Mainly because although any Virgos I know have personality by the bagful, in the actual astrological description of Virgo I can't really find a personality as such. Or just "You're critical" or "You're organised!"!!!!! BULL **** !
I think of myself as a Capricorn Ascendant, Aries Moon person. Weirdly enough. IP: Logged |
Ayumi
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posted May 25, 2005 07:45 PM
Yeah I know what you mean, I don't really consider myself a Virgo either. In fact, and this is so wierd because I was going to post a topic about it, I recently decided on my favorite sign and began pretending I was that sign. I read the horoscope for it, told poeple it was my sign (which everyone responded with, "Ohhh! That explains it!") AND every time I had a thought I'd say to myself, "WEll, how very aquarian of me!" ha ha, or "Well, of course I would do that, I'm an aquarian after all!" And you know what?
I worry less, I feel more like myself, like before I obsessively threw myself into astrology. Everyone's different, probably I'm a little more preoccupied with characterisitics of signs than most. but it was fun, and I'm still doing it. I reccommend it to anyone. IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
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posted May 25, 2005 08:49 PM
Well up until around November Last year I really didnt care much for astrology, not because I thought it was a load of crap but merely because I didnt know anything about it apart from what "Sun Sign" I was... the basics Anyways I met someone whom opened up this crazy world of the stars to me and now Im a strong believer in it My own chart is extremely accurate as to the type of person I am and at first this both annoyed me and scared me that my life path seemed to be pre-destined to be this way! However now knowing alot of the bad and good aspects of my chart and such I can at least be somewhat prepared for future planet influences and use the knowledge I have gained to channel my energy in the right directions when the time is nigh... So yea maybe we are destined to be brain washed in certain ways, but at least knowing yourself inside out means at some point you should be able to escape your destiny and write your own IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted May 26, 2005 12:19 AM
I don't think we GET brain washed.. I think some ppl deffinetly brain wash themselves and take it too far. There's a grain of truth in a lot of things (numerology, psychology etc).. There's a lot of truth in astrology but not enough to make it your one and only 'truth'.. and forget who you are in the process Most people get into it to find out more about themselves and understand themselves.. other ppl get into it to understand themselves AND others, or others primarily or relationships.. I think it's really important to remember the essence of you isn't in your traits or in the traits of your sign but in the very core of who you are and I think that's your soul.. and this goes for every other person whose chart you might look at. In the end analysis you're not a Scorpio or a Sag or a Cancer.. You're the lil kid who got the chicken pots when he was 10 and missed out on two whole weeks of school.. you're the girl whose parents divorced and changed your entire life.. you're the guy who was adopted and moved out of home at 16.. you're a daughter or a son or a mother or a granpa.. you're YOU and you have your own set of experiences with your own set of people - that have made you YOU.. -disclaimer: I hope this doesn't sound too soapy - It's very ironic I think that the very reason people get into astrology - understanding themselves is the exact downfall of getting TOO into it -forgetting who you are For all the psychology, astrology, numerology and every other science in the world every single person is different and don't be scared of being your own person. I find that some ppl feel as though if they're not part fo a group of people (this includes a group of signs), if they're not paired or coupled with others 'just like them' they are lost or scared ..scared of the notion that they are their own person.. and this makes them undervalue both their own and others' individuality (or maybe even forget that it exists) Like everything else i think astrology should be used in moderation.. too much of something makes for crazed scientist types fidgeting in an empty lab.. and people weren't meant to be lab rats IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted May 26, 2005 01:12 AM
AYUMI: i think u have a wrong analysis here , there are a lot of emotions in all of us that are overlapping so its quiteb difficult for someone else to decide for u and say things like " how very aqua of u".its for u to decide.
second thing how can start acting something that u are not , how can i start feeling like a cap from tomorrow , dont yu think u are a bit confused . i agree we do get brainwashed to an extent and i feel we all intentionally do it for good or bad .IP: Logged |
cancerrg
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posted May 26, 2005 01:23 AM
if they're not paired or coupled with others 'just like them' they are lost or scared ..scared of the notion that they are their own person.. and this makes them undervalue both their own and others' individualityaries: u are right in a sense but IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted May 26, 2005 01:51 AM
If a person doesn't choose to believe in Astrology then that's perfectly ok. What are we doing here, though, if not learning about astrology because we believe in it?I guess it's the debate between whether we are born a certain way, or whether we are formed by our environment. I think astrology allows for both, so I don't agree that we are disconnected from our astrological charts. IP: Logged |
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