posted June 16, 2005 05:53 PM              

I also have Pluto in the 6th, but in Libra.

Hmmmm...
Pluto in 6th House: A sixth house Pluto can affect the health, especially in the form of mental or psychological problems. (Only makes you stronger...) Where these are not present, then this person is capable of a great deal of willpower and staying power, but can become too obsessive about routine. (I wish...maybe cuz I also have Uranus there...but I can become obsessed with my work if it's something innovative)

posted June 16, 2005 06:06 PM              

The other stuff seems to say like...extremely hardworking, very determined, possibly to the point of wearing your health out (by becoming obsessive), may have big health problems (especially psychological/mental) to get over, potential revolutionary ideas in work...the overworking may come from a desire for power. Regeneration through health and work. It allows you to make major improvements in your work environment, but usually with methods that could be considered revolutionary or excessively strong-willed.

posted June 16, 2005 06:32 PM              

I also have pluto in the 6th house..

Pluto in the 6th...Derived from the book called The Twelve Houses.
The 6th house is the meeting point of body and psyche, the point of connection between what we are inside and the forms with which we surround ourselves. Those with Pluto in the 6th can explore this connection in great depth.

When an underworld deity like Pluto sets up his altar in the 6th house of health, then physical illness is an indication of problems elsewhere in the lives than just he body. It is a well-known fact that psychological issues play a part in aggravating a disease. Noxious agents are always present in the system, but whether we develop an illness depends on our ability to resist these. Negative thoughts and feelings, conscious or unconscious, take their toll on the body by weakening the system's natural defenses, making us more susceptible to what we can normally combat. People with Pluto in the 6th may complain that their bodies have betrayed them when they fall ill, when in actual fact the body has only revealed that there is something awry in their mental and emotional states. The good news is -- as the authors of Getting Well Again point out -- that if people can make themselves psychosomatically ill, they can also become 'psychosomatically healthy. Be examining their beliefs and feelings, those with Pluto in the 6th can move in the direction of altering not just their health, but their whole lives. The knowledge available to these people is the direct comprehension that the mind, body and emotions function as an integrated system.

Functioning as a unified whole means that every little thing in life has significance in relation to everything else. For those with Pluto in the 6th then, simple, everyday routines in life can take on great importance. Just choosing what clothes to wear i the morning or keeping the house clean can be fraught with great anxiety if Pluto is poorly aspected. They may contrive compulsive rituals in executing these tasks as if by doing them in this way they are warding off evil and destruction.

On the positive side, they have the capacity to work in a dedicated and undistracted fashion, with their total will behind a job. However, they can also take the need to be conscientious responsible, practical and productive, and turn these into obsessions as if their very survival depended on these qualities. The desire to do a job right is felt with intensity, conviction and passion. Obviously, this zeal can make them difficult to work alongside with. They may be unduly irritable and critical of others who do not share their style and approach. Relationships with co-workers maybe marred by uncomfortable undercurrents, sexual innuendoes, betrayals, treachery an intrigue. Power struggles could develop and they may resent and feel threatened by anyone in authority, unconsciously wishing to dethrone those in a higher position. If those with Pluto in the 6th are in the position of authority, the whole question of how they dispense power over subordinates comes sharply into focus.

Often there is a desire to improve on already existing methods of work. Compulsively searching for flaws, sweeping changes can be made in the name of increased efficiency. Their work must be deeply engaging and consuming, otherwise they will lose interest, and possibly 'set up' situations which force them to leave the job for another. Some may become ill to free themselves from work they abhor. Others may lose jobs because of conditions beyond their control -- such as economic recession and redundancy. While the loss of employment can have a serious effect ton their psychological well-being, examining the emotions and feelings which are brought to the surface by such contingencies could lead to greater self-knowledge and further growth.

Employment may be in the field which is 'Plutonian' by nature: undercover or detective work, mining, careers in psychology, medicine or psychiatry, or work involving nuclear energy. Taking one meaning of Pluto literally, some could work in junkyards, cemeteries or funeral parlors. Quite a few people I have seen with Pluto in the 6th are involved in various forms of neo-Reichian body-work.

In some cases, an accident or illness may produce irrevocable damage. The French artist, Henri Toulouse-Lautrec who was deformed as a result of a riding accident, was born with Pluto in Taurus in the 6th. But even if we are born with severe limiting restrictions, we are still responsible for the attitude we adopt to the handicap: we can live a life of bitter regret or find ways to give meaning to the life despite or maybe even because of it.

posted June 16, 2005 06:59 PM            

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PLUTO IN THE SIXTH HOUSE
THE SIXTH HOUSE ARENA:
Skill; Competence; Responsibility;
"Discipleship"
THE SIXTH HOUSE PITS:
Humiliation; Boredom; Shame

IN THE TRADITION...
...the sixth house was often called "The House of Servants." The label is appropriate enough if we understand it symbolically. Relatively few of us employ butlers and chambermaids any longer, or aspire to play such roles ourselves. Our democratic culture inclines us to be uncomfortable with the notion of having "inferiors" — and to be positively phobic about anyone viewing us in such terms.
How can we relate the old sixth house to modern reality as it is actually experienced? The twin notions of subordination and humility are the key. To what do you subordinate yourself? And try to answer without bringing in any overtly religious or spiritual perspectives. What do you make greater than yourself, so that you freely sacrifice independence, impulse, and personal pleasure? Before what do you humble yourself?
Here's a hint: what are your plans for Monday morning? Ah yes: work. Most of us go meekly to work, maybe without burning enthusiasm, but voluntarily. And of course "going to work" may not involve employment in the simple sense, it may mean getting the kids off to school, the shopping done, and the meals prepared. Responsibility is the key idea — and the heart of the sixth house.
The human psyche has many needs that must be met if it is going to maintain its health and well-being. One of them is the need to experience a feeling of competence and effectiveness: the need to be good at something that others value. That achievement almost always requires some degree of self-discipline and self-sacrifice, qualities basic to the sixth house.
There's another layer to the symbolism, a little closer to the old notion of "Servants." Part of the reality of life is that we sometimes meet people who are "better" than us in significant ways. If you are a flutist, you might seek out a teacher to help you improve your playing... and that teacher must possess skills that you lack or the relationship is pointless. To hear such a teacher play is an ambivalent experience: both inspiring and humbling. Yet on the road to competence, such meetings are precious.
There is a circuit board in the human mind that allows us to process and receive such relationships. In fact, we need them in order fully to realize our own potentials. In the modern world, we call such people "role models." In the old days, they were "mentors" or "heroes." And if the superiority of the mentor extends so widely and broadly that it goes beyond the transmission of skill into the transmission of something more fundamental, we call the mentor a "spiritual master" or "guru:" hence, the classical association of the sixth house with "discipleship."
YOUR HIGH DESTINY
Whenever the sixth house is ignited in a birth chart, we know that we are looking at a person whose high destiny involves some kind of world service. I say that confidently, yet I hesitate at the grandiosity of the term "world service." It conjures up images of starving masses and beatific saints doling out wisdom and fishes; but sixth house realities are always less glamorous. Inevitably, there is a certain "roll up your sleeves and dive in" feeling to this dimension of life.
With Pluto there, the service into which you are asked to dive is Plutonian, which is to say, it involves the mucky trench wars created by the dark side of life. Who are the wounded in those wars? Who are the needy? Who among us, in other words, has been hurt by lies, by sadism, by insensitivity?
Basically everybody. And in realizing your high destiny, you will touch a lot of people very directly. You want to do that; you have been blessed or cursed with a strong conscience. Inherent in your being is the desire to help ease the pain and hopelessness of other creatures.
How to do it? Here we enter delicate territory. Pluto, as we have seen, is not an inherently gentle planet. And yet all my words so far might suggest images of long-suffering social workers, of volunteers in homeless shelters, of kind-hearted charity workers. And God bless them, one and all... many of them show Pluto in this natal position. But Pluto demands more. It hungers to tell fiercer, less comfortable truths. To name devils.
In realizing your high destiny, you may offer comfort, but you go beyond that. There are other battles, fought on two fronts. On the first front, we see the nurse who instead of attending wounded soldiers protests the war that is wounding them in the first place. We see, in other words, a Plutonian willingness to break taboo and go directly to the source of the pain, naming it, rooting it out if possible.
The second front is even more taboo, even more frightening. Here the high destiny lies in challenging people who have passively submitted to the victim's role. Confronting them. Naming their self-imposed weakness and their own comfortable lie, daring them to rise out of their passivity and claim their own fire.

YOUR DISTORTING WOUND
Childhood is instinctual; adulthood something we learn. Possibly. Anybody who manages keep the heart pumping will, of course, grow older and pass a visual inspection for adulthood. But true adulthood means more than reaching the legal drinking age...it implies the development of skills, the taking on of particular responsibilities, learning a craft, making and keeping a set of promises. It implies the psychological possibility of competent parenthood. Not everyone will chose to become a parent, nor will the experience be available always even to those who would choose it. The point is only that for true adulthood to be achieved, basic life skills must be learned, and the psychological capacity to subordinate one's own needs to the needs of another be mastered.
None of that happens automatically the way sexuality or power-drives turn themselves on. These surrendering skills must learned. And they must be learned from someone, ideally while we're still young.
The same can be said for the knotty problem of sorting out our rights from our responsibilities. So far, we've emphasized adult responsibility — the ability to put off the gratification of one's immediate personal needs and appetites for the sake of moral or ethical considerations, or one's long-term purposes. In the same breath we must also recognize that no one who gives up all his or her own needs will remain healthy for long. There is a balance between the two extremes, and it's not always easy to find. Ask any tired mother or father.
That balance, too, must be learned from someone.
Something went wrong with that mentoring process in your life. That is your Distorting Wound. What was it? Who failed you? No astrologer can know. But here are some possibilities. At the most obvious level, we can speculate about gross irresponsibility on the part of one or both of your parents. Abandonment. Neglect. Active abuse. Or we can raise questions about the competence of the parents. Here we may be looking at innocent intentions: the seventeen-year-old mother doing her level best, for example. Going further, we can imagine parents who were quite competent and responsible, but who so resented the burden that the gift was poisoned. Or parents who were overprotective, or overly directive, or "encouraged" a child through shaming, guilt-inducing behavior. Or who failed to provide necessary instruction about money, sexuality, whatever.
And we can go beyond the orbit of parenting. Certainly mom and dad were never intended to be our only mentors. Many traditional cultures place very serious emphasis on the roles of uncles and aunts. This makes a lot of psychological sense. Young people can often speak more freely with an open-hearted uncle or aunt than they can with their parents; in the natural form of that relationship there is always a hint of naughtiness, special secrets, and conspiracy. The growing young person must begin to pull away from the gravity of the home, but he or she still needs adult role models.
I speak of "aunts" and "uncles," but in our society these people many times are not actually kindred, typically they are friends of the family, or trusted teachers.
Where were your aunts and uncles? Were there "sins of omission or commission" in that part of your life? Who showed you how to be an independent adult, with healthy life-affirming attitudes toward authority, toward food and alcohol, toward sexuality?
One final note: I want to emphasize that the absence of effective role-modeling, while less obvious, is every bit as destructive here as the presence of truly poisonous adults in the young person's life.
YOUR NAVIGATIONAL ERROR
Earlier we spoke of the delicate balance between responsibility toward others and responsibility toward oneself. Some of life's knottiest dilemmas lie in finding that equilibrium. Human instincts run toward selfishness; doubts about that statement can be readily dispelled by watching preschoolers at play. “I-me-mine" is the recurrent theme.
But human civilization depends in part upon a willingness to compromise, to give, and to wait in patience for one's turn. And that is learned behavior.
The navigational error which tempts you lies in going off course in either direction: taking too much or too little responsibility. The behaviors associated with each error are very different; we might not intuitively recognize the family resemblance between them. Let's investigate both.
Too little responsibility: depending in part upon the nature of the wounding experiences in your life, that error may manifest as simple irresponsibility. A difficulty keeping jobs. A pattern of damaging your relationships, friendships, even children through neglect or selfishness. Failure to take minimal care of your own body. Never changing the oil in your car, forgetting to pay bills on time, not filing your tax returns...
It may take another form: under achievement. You might find yourself "caught" in a dispiriting, boring job. Why? Because, deep down and half-unconsciously, you were afraid to really go to your own limits. Maybe no one gave you the gift of simply believing in you when you were younger and needed that faith for normal development. Often, by the way, when a person goes down that road, he or she will draw a distinctly Plutonian boss: imagine Ghengis Khan in a new incarnation, stopping by your desk with a few suggestions regarding your efficiency.
What about errors of "too much responsibility?" Here we find people whose duties turn into a kind of voracious black hole, never satisfied. Fourteen hours in the office, and still a sense of imminent failure. Devoted, caring parenting... but still a guilty sense that you're failing your kids. Such people give so much without replenishing their own batteries that they sooner or later reach that depressed, flat state commonly called "burnout."

THE HEALING METHOD
Straightening out this particular kind of Plutonian snarl is a lot easier with help than without it. You are never too old to seek out a mentor, and that in a nutshell is your healing method.
Our culture is a very empowering one in many ways, but not here. As adults we are expected to take responsibility for ourselves and not to depend too much on others to fix things for us. This is especially true for men, although it certainly impacts women as well. For an adult to humble himself or herself before another person and ask for advice violates an unspoken taboo.
Another complication lies in the fact that once we even whisper that we could use some help, we may be besieged. People love to give advice, however misguided. And there is no shortage of psychotherapists, channelers, psychics, gurus and evangelists of every stripe and coloration.
Two qualities contribute to your healing: humility and discrimination. It takes the former to empower you to ask for help, and it takes the latter in full measure to sort out the real help from the misguided, phony, or venal pretenders.
How can you recognize your real mentors? Here's an excellent rule of thumb. Since the sixth house is so deeply linked to work and duty, there's a more than even chance that your true helpers will be people whom you naturally encounter in those areas: Co-workers, or people ahead of you in your profession to whom you can apprentice yourself, either formally or informally. A variation on that idea: your mentors may be in fields to which you are drawn, even if you are not yet actively involved in those fields.
Another clue: your mentors are Plutonian. They tend to be intense people, with a willingness to face unsettling ideas and realities. They are not "nice" — at least that word would never be used to summarize their characters, even though they may be quite capable of gentility and kindness.
And a third clue: your mentors will be people who have found work or patterns of responsibility which they find compellingly satisfying, to which they commit themselves with great fire — and from which they can walk away come Friday afternoon.

THE ENERGIZING VISION
When the day is done, what kind of work offers the deepest and most lasting satisfactions? Certainly there is no single answer that fits everyone. We might imagine a saintly individual holding forth about the virtues of work that "makes a difference in the world." Feeding the hungry, protecting the earth. We might with equal ease imagine a motivational speaker telling us about the joys of realizing your own creative vision, and prospering from it. Then, if we were looking for some entertainment, we might introduce the saint and motivational speaker and let them have at each other. The saint might call the speaker, "selfish" or even "greedy." The motivational speaker might return fire with words like "martyrdom" or "guilty do-goodism."
For you, the energizing vision lies in courting the motivational speaker and winding up with the saint. Earlier, in discussing your high destiny, we looked at the notion that you have something significant to do for your community by way of service. Then we emphasized that it might well involve some confrontational behavior on your part — that it wasn't simply "soup kitchen" work. Always, when Pluto is healthy, there is a great buzz of fiery ego energy connected with it...you are hot to do something, so hot you can't sleep. In you, the energizing vision revolves around work or skills that make you feel that way. You believe in what you're doing, but you also plain love it. And it happens that in following that passion, you will — almost without intending it — wind up doing something truly helpful for your community. It may be as simple as starting a business that provides work for people who might otherwise be unemployed... and then demanding the best of them, which helps them even more.
Such action is certainly not the style of an irresponsible person or an under-achiever. Equally, it is not the style of the hardworking, plow-pulling slave either. Something happened to you that may tug you like a terrible gravity toward those traps. To break its hold, you need first to sit with someone who knows a better way, let something flow from his or her eyes and bones and cells into yours. Let that humble, surrendering magic happen, and the rest takes on the feeling of inevitability. Before you know it, and certainly without ever intending it, you find yourself surrounded by younger people, quietly playing the role of mentor, passing on the eternal torch.

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posted June 17, 2005 11:23 PM              

Sagittarius modifying Pluto focused in the 6th house

Virgo modifying Pluto focused in the 6th house

becomes

Sagittarius (expansion) modifying Pluto (transformation, also healing) focused in the 6th house (daily work, also health)

Virgo (daily work, also health) modifying Pluto (transformation, also healing) focused in the 6th house (daily work, also health)

which could mean for your son:
expansiveness in transformative healing focusing daily on health issues

for you:
daily transformation and healing focused on health

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To your health,

posted June 18, 2005 01:45 PM            

You sure know how to get my motor running! First mermaids, now a poem just for me -- I'm so excited to be an artist's muse!!
I have read some of your poems -- your talent leaves me speechless!

I will be working on my text-recognition stuff today so I can keep my LL promises -- fun stuff like music-cd compilations may have to be shelved for a few days.....

I tried scanning Liz Greene's Neptune chapters on Friday at work on the super-scanner, but it bombed out because it wouldn't "read" the size of the page (it tried to make it 11x17 instead of 8-1/2x11 so the scans didn't work) -- trial and error, all of this.....but what a fun challenge for Merc in 3rd House!