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Topic: Asperger's Syndrome
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Heart--Shaped Cross Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted October 26, 2005 07:11 AM
Has anyone been diagnosed with this, or know someone who has, and would you (or anyone familiar with Asperger's) care to speculate on some possible astrological placements which might explain or correspond with it?------------------ "My friends, how desperately do we need to be loved and to love. When Christ said that man does not live by bread alone, he spoke of a hunger. This hunger was not the hunger of the body. It was not the hunger for bread. He spoke of a hunger that begins deep down in the very depths of our being. He spoke of a need as vital as breath. He spoke of our hunger for love. Love is something you and i must have. We must have it because our spirit feeds upon it. We must have it because without it we become weak and faint. Without love our self-esteem weakens. Without it our courage fails. Without love we can no longer look out confidently at the world. We turn inward and begin to feed upon our own personalities, and little by little we destroy ourselves. With it we are creative. With it we march tirelessly. With it, and with it alone, we are able to sacrifice for others." - Chief Dan George IP: Logged |
Azalaksh Knowflake Posts: 982 From: New Brighton, MN, USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 26, 2005 08:24 AM
Hi Steve!I've missed your posts here, glad to see you back..... My son is "ADHD/Asperger's", or part of what they call the "Autistic Spectrum" of disorders. I'll post his placements. I think he will grow up to be an extraordinary man, but as an Aries/Leo/Leo, he'll have to get past that temper and that tendency to see himself as the Center of the Universe  Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Aries 09°27'45 09 direct Moon Leo 10°16'44 12/1 direct Moon is technically near the end of house 12 and is interpreted in house 1. Mercury Aries 11°05'52 09 direct Venus Taurus 25°20'04 10 direct Mars Aries 04°05'06 09 direct Jupiter Capricorn 15°43'14 06 direct Saturn Pisces 28°58'07 09 direct Uranus Aquarius 03°55'54 06 direct Neptune Capricorn 27°29'50 06 direct Pluto Sagittarius 02°57'13 04/5 retrograde Pluto is technically near the end of house 4 and is interpreted in house 5. True Node Libra 17°11'01 03 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Leo 11°29'34 2nd House Virgo 00°21'16 3rd House Virgo 24°19'22 Imum Coeli Libra 25°50'54 5th House Sagittarius 04°13'43 6th House Capricorn 11°23'20 Descendant Aquarius 11°29'34 8th House Pisces 00°21'16 9th House Pisces 24°19'22 Medium Coeli Aries 25°50'54 11th House Gemini 04°13'43 12th House Cancer 11°23'20 Major aspects Sun Trine Moon 0°49 Sun Conjunction Mercury 1°38 Sun Conjunction Mars 5°23 Sun Square Jupiter 6°15 Sun Sextile Uranus 5°32 Sun Trine Pluto 6°31 Sun Trine Ascendant 2°02 Moon Trine Mercury 0°49 Moon Trine Mars 6°12 Moon Opposition Uranus 6°21 Moon Trine Pluto 7°20 Moon Conjunction Ascendant 1°13 Mercury Square Jupiter 4°37 Mercury Trine Ascendant 0°24 Venus Sextile Saturn 3°38 Venus Trine Neptune 2°10 Mars Conjunction Saturn 5°07 Mars Sextile Uranus 0°09 Mars Trine Pluto 1°08 Saturn Sextile Uranus 4°58 Saturn Sextile Neptune 1°28 Saturn Trine Pluto 3°59 Uranus Sextile Pluto 0°59 Neptune Sextile Pluto 5°27 {{love & hugs}} 'Zala
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posted October 26, 2005 12:40 PM
I have Aspergers and obsessive compulsive disorder......Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0 Sun Sagittarius 4.13 Moon Aquarius 20.58 Mercury Scorpio 19.55 Venus Sagittarius 28.41 Mars Scorpio 1.53 Jupiter Aries 20.21 R Saturn Sagittarius 21.22 Uranus Sagittarius 25.34 Neptune Capricorn 6.32 Pluto Scorpio 10.52 Lilith Leo 11.07 Asc node Aries 0.08 Placidus Orb:0 Ascendant Cancer 12.44 II Leo 1.14 III Leo 22.20 IV Virgo 19.15 V Libra 25.04 VI Sagittarius 6.29 VII Capricorn 12.44 VIII Aquarius 1.14 IX Aquarius 22.20 Midheaven Pisces 19.15 XI Aries 25.04 XII Gemini 6.29 Sun in V Moon in VIII Mercury in V Venus in VI Mars in V Jupiter in Midheaven Saturn in VI Uranus in VI Neptune in VI Pluto in V Lilith in II Asc node in Midheaven Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value Moon Square Mercury 1.03 -140 Moon Sextile Jupiter 0.37 237 Moon Sextile Saturn 0.24 234 Mercury Conjunction Pluto 9.02 52 Mercury Trine Ascendant 7.10 8 Mercury Trine Midheaven 0.39 73 Venus Sextile Mars 3.12 78 Venus Conjunction Saturn 7.19 118 Venus Conjunction Uranus 3.07 275 Venus Conjunction Neptune 7.50 78 Mars Conjunction Pluto 8.59 64 Jupiter Trine Saturn 1.01 79 Jupiter Trine Uranus 5.13 28 Saturn Conjunction Uranus 4.12 162 Saturn Square Midheaven 2.07 -26 Neptune Opposition Ascendant 6.13 -12 Pluto Trine Ascendant 1.52 12 1498 -178 1320 IP: Logged |
lovely* unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 03:01 PM
I think there is a link with lack of earth in the chart and heavy air/fire oppositions.While my daughter is too young to be diagnosed with anything, she has at least half the traits of one with A.D.D. The difference is her attention span doesn't tend to effect her memory retention or ability to learn. She can also focus on one task and see it to completion provided she's interested. Just my personal analysis. IP: Logged |
Mariangela unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 03:53 PM
It has been suggested that I have Asperger's, and based on my readings, I think it's highly likely. planet sign degree house motion Sun Taurus 25°45'46 11 direct Moon Gemini 22°37'28 12 direct Mercury Taurus 29°32'42 11 direct Venus Cancer 01°17'29 12 direct Mars Virgo 03°55'47 03 direct Jupiter Virgo 00°51'04 03 direct Saturn Virgo 20°13'27 03/4 stationary (D) Saturn is technically near the end of house 3 and is interpreted in house 4. Uranus Scorpio 23°27'49 05 retrograde Neptune Sagittarius 21°59'19 06 retrograde Pluto Libra 19°27'33 04 retrograde True Node Leo 24°26'27 02/3 retrograde True Node is technically near the end of house 2 and is interpreted in house 3. House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Cancer 16°00'42 2nd House Leo 04°03'58 3rd House Leo 24°53'37 Imum Coeli Virgo 21°55'52 5th House Libra 28°20'46 6th House Sagittarius 10°18'25 Descendant Capricorn 16°00'42 8th House Aquarius 04°03'58 9th House Aquarius 24°53'37 Medium Coeli Pisces 21°55'52 11th House Aries 28°20'46 12th House Gemini 10°18'25 Major aspects Sun Conjunction Mercury 3°47 Sun Square Jupiter 5°05 Sun Trine Saturn 5°32 Sun Opposition Uranus 2°18 Moon Square Saturn 2°24 Moon Quincunx Uranus 0°50 Moon Opposition Neptune 0°38 Moon Trine Pluto 3°10 Mercury Square Mars 4°23 Mercury Square Jupiter 1°18 Venus Sextile Mars 2°38 Venus Sextile Jupiter 0°26 Mars Conjunction Jupiter 3°05 Saturn Sextile Uranus 3°14 Saturn Square Neptune 1°46 Saturn Sextile Ascendant 4°13 Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°32 Pluto Square Ascendant 3°27 IP: Logged |
proxieme unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 04:31 PM
Hey lovely* - I was going to say that it sounds like your daughter's a good hyperfocuser.I then did a search for a link to show you, and found this article: http://user.cybrzn.com/~kenyonck/add/hunters_farmers.html I wouldn't reference it in an academic paper, but as an ADDer (married to an ADDer) it made me smile. Have you taken a look at this book?: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684815311/ref=ase_balancecheckbookA/102-0988609-6860915?v=glance&s=books ~~~ This thread also got me thinking: I wonder if ADD is at all related to Asperger's? Probably not, but the question just popped in my head. ~~~ Oh! And I found this link for the original poster: http://www.wrongplanet.net/ Not astrological, but eh. If nothing else, I like the title  IP: Logged |
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posted October 26, 2005 08:00 PM
My son, Joshua, has a diagnosis of Aspergers Syndrome...for Joshua (male) born on 12 June 1998 local time 12:34 pm in York, ENG (UK) U.T. 11:34 1w05, 53n58 sid. time 04:52:02 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Gemini 21°18'28 10 direct Moon Capricorn 18°45'10 04 direct Mercury Gemini 24°01'53 10 direct Venus Taurus 15°47'15 09 direct Mars Gemini 13°36'15 09/10 direct Mars is technically near the end of house 9 and is interpreted in house 10. Jupiter Pisces 26°05'01 07 direct Saturn Taurus 00°18'44 08 direct Uranus Aquarius 12°28'38 05 retrograde Neptune Aquarius 01°46'32 05 retrograde Pluto Sagittarius 06°17'01 03 retrograde True Node Virgo 04°06'01 12 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Virgo 18°24'20 2nd House Libra 10°08'22 3rd House Scorpio 08°31'39 Imum Coeli Sagittarius 14°20'24 5th House Capricorn 22°13'26 6th House Aquarius 23°40'06 Descendant Pisces 18°24'20 8th House Aries 10°08'22 9th House Taurus 08°31'39 Medium Coeli Gemini 14°20'24 11th House Cancer 22°13'26 12th House Leo 23°40'06 Major aspects Sun Quincunx Moon 2°33 Sun Conjunction Mercury 2°43 Sun Conjunction Mars 7°42 Sun Square Jupiter 4°47 Sun Square Ascendant 2°54 Moon Trine Venus 2°58 Moon Sextile Jupiter 7°20 Moon Trine Ascendant 0°21 Mercury Square Jupiter 2°03 Mercury Square Ascendant 5°38 Venus Square Uranus 3°19 Venus Trine Ascendant 2°37 Mars Trine Uranus 1°08 Mars Square Ascendant 4°48 Jupiter Sextile Neptune 5°42 Saturn Square Neptune 1°28 Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°30
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posted October 26, 2005 08:36 PM
I have Asperger's, which I question is actually an autistic condition, or simply something that has overlapping traits (BTW the doctor who first dx'd AS and after whom the condition is named did not believe it was a form of autism either). I also don't believe that AS should be considered a disorder in and of itself, but rather more of a neurological difference. I do have Executive Function Disorder and Non-verbal Learning Disorder, which are common among Aspies, but not exclusive to us, and those I don't have a problem with considering as "disorders". I also have other neurological-based traits common or frequent of Aspies too, such as hyperlexia (as a child), a savant-like talent (for music - mostly as a child, although some traits still linger), numerous sensory hypersensitivities, ambidexterity, eidetic memory and synesthesia. My IQ scores vary from the top 3% to the top 1% of the population, although normally I score right in the 1.5% bracket. I am most definitely not ADHD adn never was even close to being hypractive as a child. However, like many Aspes (sadly) I do suffer from PTSD and chronic depression and have a long history of suicidal ideation although I have never made a serious attempt. Interesting note about what Lovely said - there isn't a whole lot of earth in my chart, and there is only two fire placements and both are opposing air placements but I don't think that alone can explain my neurological freakishness. I have a chart that's heavy in Mercurial and Uranian aspects, combined with a Neptunian undertheme. Add to this that both my Uranus and Neptune are singletons. I personally think Mercury is key, and when combined with strong Uranian and Neptunian influences obviously you're going to get someone who's a bit, well, odd. My chart: IP: Logged |
Valkie unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 09:14 PM
I did a chart for a woman with Asperger's. One thing that stood out in her chart was that her Uranus is singleton and the focal point of a bucket.So, how many of you fit that or something similar? an outer planet singlton by mode, house type or element? or otherwise dignified? IP: Logged |
lovely* unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 11:02 PM
proxime, the article regarding hunter/farmer made my night. i'd like to find out more on this topic.IP: Logged |
Thethirdbenjamin unregistered
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posted October 26, 2005 11:02 PM
I was diagnosed with Asperberger’s back in my teens, I didn’t pay much attention to it since my doctor shared most of the results with my mother at the time. It wasn’t until my first year of college that I began to think about what my doctor said. Sometimes I can be way too obsessive towards particular topics, its funny because I’ve been obsessed with 3D modeling and 3D Studio Max for the last three years. Here’s my chart Planetary positions planet sign degree house motion Sun Gemini 21°06'02 05 direct Moon Aries 10°46'47 02 direct Mercury Gemini 26°41'30 05 direct Venus Taurus 05°21'17 03 direct Mars Cancer 01°47'22 06 direct Jupiter Aquarius 16°52'52 01 retrograde Saturn Scorpio 22°54'30 10 retrograde Uranus Sagittarius 15°46'14 11 retrograde Neptune Capricorn 02°33'09 12 retrograde Pluto Scorpio 02°10'20 09 retrograde True Node Taurus 17°48'07 03/4 direct House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Capricorn 24°01'36 2nd House Pisces 11°45'19 3rd House Aries 22°12'51 Imum Coeli Taurus 20°12'05 5th House Gemini 11°39'10 6th House Cancer 01°21'07 Descendant Cancer 24°01'36 8th House Virgo 11°45'19 9th House Libra 22°12'51 Medium Coeli Scorpio 20°12'05 11th House Sagittarius 11°39'10 12th House Capricorn 01°21'07 Major aspects Sun Conjunction Mercury 5°35 Sun Trine Jupiter 4°13 Sun Quincunx Saturn 1°48 Sun Opposition Uranus 5°20 Sun Quincunx Ascendant 2°56 Moon Sextile Jupiter 6°06 Moon Trine Uranus 4°59 Mercury Conjunction Mars 5°06 Mercury Opposition Neptune 5°52 Mercury Trine Pluto 5°29 Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 2°40 Venus Sextile Mars 3°34 Venus Trine Neptune 2°48 Venus Opposition Pluto 3°11 Mars Opposition Neptune 0°46 Mars Trine Pluto 0°23 Jupiter Sextile Uranus 1°07 Saturn Sextile Ascendant 1°07 Neptune Sextile Pluto 0°23 IP: Logged |
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posted October 26, 2005 11:29 PM
Valkie, I have a Uranus cardinal singelton in the 1st, which is part of my air grand trine, as well as a Neptune singelton (only fire planet). Outer planet singletons aren't that rare, and so I doubt every Uranus singleton represents someone with AS. Plus I have seem quite a few charts of Aspies without Uranus singletons. However, Aspies with Uranus singletons often tend to be more likely genius types, or at least possessing extrtaordinary talents, although not consistantly, in my expeirence (which endows me with a great sense of inferiority at my lack of accomplishments, I confess). Some famous persons that probably did have AS and have Uranus singletons: Bela Bartok (Uranus only social planet - Mercury also a singelton): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/belabartok.shtml Albert Einstein (Uranus only personal planet - he also has Sun and Jupiter singletons): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/einstein.shtml Rudyard Kipling (Uranus only personal palent - he also had a moon singleton): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/rudyardkipling.shtml Piet Mondrain (Uranus singelton by conjunction with Jupiter - only soical planets): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/mondrian.shtml Robert Oppenheimer (Uranus only social planet): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/robertjoppenheimer.shtml Virginia Woolf (Uranus only social planet - she also has a moon singleton): http://www.khaldea.com/charts/virginawoolf.shtml Yet there are also several people like Beethoven and Van Gogh, who had very strong AS traits (including a family history that indicates a predisposition towards Asperger's) but don't have Uranus singletons. So I am not that confident that an Uranus singelton alone indicates AS - there seems to be a complexes of traits that could indicate something liek AS andperhaps aspects like a Uranus singleton may simply indicate how something liek AS would manifest.
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posted October 28, 2005 11:28 PM
Wow, I can't believe how many people here claim they have Asperger's! I have always believed that a lot of things like ADD and ADHD are overdiagnosed, and way too easily at that, but that is just my opinion, no offense to anybody who seriously has issues with the disorders. The reason I say this is that I have a family friend who has Asperger's - full swing. He is unable to write as intelligently as most of you, let alone understand or calculate his birth chart. That's just how come I was a little surprised at the comments here. He is a bit shy, though eager to make friends, and very very creative - loves his computer animation and design and music...but he couldn't write a good letter, or initiate too much conversation - his social skills are naturally somewhat underdeveloped. He is a Capricorn with Moon in Scorpio, and he is very emotional and VERY serious. He goes through periods of great temper and intensity. But mostly, he is a really sweet person who tries his best to understand the world around him. IP: Logged | |