posted December 28, 2005 07:09 PM              

Has anyone studied this yet?

posted December 28, 2005 07:54 PM              

http://aolsearch.aol.com/aol/search?invocationType=topsearchbox.search&query=brad+pitt+and+angelina+jolie+composite

posted December 29, 2005 12:10 AM              

Astro Junkie, are you looking at their correct charts? (I know that some internet sites are not always the best sources for correct birthdata).

Brad Pitt
Dec 18, 1963
6:31 am CST
96'56W 35'20N

Jolie
June 4, 1975
9:09am PST
115'08W 36'11N

They hv a number of synastric ties:

Brad's Sagittarius Sun is in Jolie's 5th House

Jolie's Chiron Trines Pitt's Sun (according to the Magi Society Chiron aspects in synastry are like glue)

Always look for Saturn ties as well, good or bad, Saturn holds 2 ppl together through thick and thin!

Jolie's Saturn is conj Pitt's NN (5* orb) Can anyone say Karma?

Jolie's Juno trines Pitt's Saturn 0 * orb
Pitt's Juno trine's Jolie's Saturn 0* orb

Jolie's Saturn squares Pitt's Moon
Pitt's Saturn trines Jolie's Sun

Jolie's Moon is conj Pitt's Asc ruler Jupiter

Pitt's Desc Ruler Merc oppositions Jolie's Saturn (More Karma)

Jolie's Desc Ruler Saturn opposition's Pitt's Merc, Moon, and Venus (It wont be all paradise)

Jolie's Vertex sits on Pitt's Asc - 4* orb

Pitt's Vx sits on Jolie's Venus - 0* orb

Jolie's Chiron falls on Pitt's 5th House cusp
(She is helping him to find healing and purpose through children)

Also, Pitt's Asc and Sun fall in Jolie's 5th house (Jolie's natal Neptune in her 5th is a classic marker for those who adopt children)

Jolie's Moon falls in Pitts 5th House, he values her as a nurturer as well as sexual partner, his sexual experiences w/ her are emotional as well as physical

Brad's Sun/Moon MP = Joile's Mars
and his Venus/Mars = Jolie's Jupiter

Jolie's Moon/Mars MP = Pitt's Jupiter

Interestingly his NN falls in her 12th house, her NN falls in his 12th house, probably indicates past life ties, & that they would progress better as a couple if they keep their affairs to themselves, they will help eachother work through their fears and problems

Similarly Jolie's Vx falls in Pitts 12th house, Pitt's Vx falls in Jolie's 12th house

Pitt's Saturn falls in Jolie's 7th House, a common placement in partners

There are numerous other contacts btw the charts, good and bad (I hv not looked at their declinations). There will be HUGE trust and aggression issues, but the relationship does seem to be very much a Karmic one. They seem to be finishing business from a past life, and though they wont always get along (her Mars sqaure his Mars, as well as his Nodes) they will now be connected for life through their adopted children. It probably will be long-term, just not likely to be life-long. But who knows?

posted December 29, 2005 06:20 PM              

I have sag rising from what I know, and I do have a drive to create constantly and am attracted to warm, creative people, especially those with sag sun, sag 7th house, sun singletons, sag or fire moons-

jolie and pitt-
all that fire together caused a desire to join and start a family.

posted January 24, 2010 11:14 PM            

Can anyone point that out in their synastry?

Are there signs of their relationship not working out in their synastry or composites?

Can synastry actually tell you if u're relationship is going to last?

posted January 24, 2010 11:21 PM            

also they have only one NN aspect, what if they had more?

posted January 25, 2010 03:13 PM            

I looked at their composite through the 21st Century Astrology perspective, looking at the big transneptunians which have to do with evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences

looking at the big transneptunians
using only 3 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square
2 degree orb for sextile
didn't bother looking at any minor aspects

Ixion in 3'33 Scorpio
oppose Saturn in 3'15 Taurus
trine Moon in 2'57 Pisces
sextile Juno in 2'13 Virgo

Philip Sedgwick wrote the following for keywords for Ixion based on its node and perihelion during its discovery as well as its mythology:

Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.

Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Sedna in 1'13 Taurus
conjunct Saturn in 3'15 Taurus
trine Juno in 2'13 Virgo
sextile Moon in 2'57 Pisces

Philip wrote the following keywords for Sedna based on its node and perihelon as well as its mythology:

Sedna - She is the first body to bear the mythology of the arctic's Inuit culture. Orbital Period: 11,013.05 yr.

Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life

Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious

Moon,Juno,Ixion,and Saturn-Sedna are in a Wedge configuration.

Intensified evolutionary experiences,lessons of second chances,humane caretaking involving dealing with feelings,nurturing,committed relationships,discipline,responsibilities.

Orcus in 18'25 Cancer R
trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Philip Sedgwick wrote the following keywords for Orcus based on its node and perihelion during discovery as well as its mythology

Orcus - A lord of the underworld. Orbital Period: 248.01 yr.

Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deed

Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises

so both of the luminaries are trine a transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino, similar to a luminaries aspecting Pluto. Plutinos are objects that have 2:3 orbital resonance. That means that every 3 times Neptune orbits the Sun, plutinos orbit twice. As plutinos, Orcus and Ixion orbit like Pluto. They are astronomically similar to Pluto,and so they are astrologically similar to Pluto.
intensity,power,transformation

The relationship seems very deep with strong emphasis on evolutionary intensified lessons and experiences.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 25, 2010 03:14 PM            

2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square
1 degree orb for sextile

for asteroids,transneptunians
1 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square
30 minutes for sextile

nodes of the personal planets,asteroids move relatively quickly,and so they are personal connections

nodes of Jupiter,Saturn,outerplanets,transneptunians move relatively slowly, and so they are collective connections

Geocentric North Mars Node in 3'52 Taurus - personal connection involving assertion,passion
conjunct Saturn - discipline,structure,
sextile Moon in 2'57 Pisces - emotions,feelings

Geocentric North Saturn Node in 24'13 Capricorn - collective connection involving discipline,structure
square Venus

Geocentric North Pluto Node in 19'45 Cancer - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,power
trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Geocentric South Pluto Node in 20'05 Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,power
sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Geocentric North Juno Node in 19'57 Virgo - personal connection involving committed relationship,marriage,partnership
oppose Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Geocentric South Juno in 20'28 Pisces - personal connection involving commited relationship,marriage,partnership
conjunct Sun in 19'38 Pisces

I also checked the Heliocentric Nodes
all heliocentric nodes of objects move very slowly.....up to 1 degree per century. They are all collective energies.

2 degree orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile

1 degree orb for asteroids,transneptunians

Heliocentric Mercury Nodes in 17'58 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving communications
sextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces
(Great for communications and anything that has to do with the media)

Heliocentric Mars Nodes in 19'19 Taurus/Scorpio - collective connection involving assertion,passion,physical drive
sextile/trine Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,power
trine/sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Heliocentric Juno Nodes in 20'17 Virgo/Pisces - collective connection involving committed relationships,marriage,partnerships
oppose/conjunct Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretaking
square Sun in 19'38 Pisces

Their Sun conjunct Geocentric South Juno,oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Juno Nodes seems to indicate that they could have possibly been committed relationship partners in a pastlife. It could also just mean that it's natural for them to be committed relationship partners.
With the Geocentric North and South Pluto Nodes,Heliocentric Pluto Nodes trine and sextile, the conjunction, the committed relationship involves intensity,transformation,power. The Sun sextile/trine the Heliocentric Mercury Nodes and Mars Nodes indicates good communications and assertiveness in relationship. The Sun square Heliocentric Ceres Nodes make sense for them as highly famous parents,caretakers.

It's a profound relationship. It's far from superficial.
Their Venus square geocentric Saturn Node indicates the seriousness,responsibilities of the relationship.

Their strong Sun-Juno Node aspects are amazing, especially they have them both geocentric (personal) and heliocentric (collective). The latter is like a good indication of a world famous couple. Their strong Sun-Pluto Node aspects (both geocentric and heliocentric) indicate a power couple.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted January 25, 2010 03:15 PM            

I checked the geocentric nodes of only Mercury,Venus,Mars,Juno,Ceres,Pallas,Vesta

I didn't check the nodes of Jupiter and objects beyond because they move very slowly...they are collective energies.

1 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine,square
1/2 degree for sextile

for asteroid nodes
1/2 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine square
15 minutes of arc for sextile

I checked not only ecliptic longitude which is the regular astrology chart coordinates, I also checked Right Ascension (Equatorial Longitude) for a multidimensional approach.

Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 10'34 - Capricorn - personal connections involving communications
square Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drive

Brad's Geocentric South Mercury Node in 14'08 Sagittarius - personal connections involving communications - personal connections involving communications
oppose Angelina's Sun in 13'25 Gemini - ego,self expression,vitality

In Right Ascension,
Brad's Geocentric North Mercury Node in 11'30 Capricorn
square Angelina's Moon in 10'29 Aries - emotional nature
square Angelina's Mars in 10'29 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drive

Brad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'49 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systems
oppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughts

In Right Ascension,
Brad's Geocentric South Venus Node in 21'05 Sagittarius - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systems
oppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini - communications,thoughts

In Right Ascension,
Brad's Geocentric South Mars Node in 1'18 Sagittarius - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drive
trine Angelina's Venus in 0'47 Leo - love,relationships,value systems
trine Angelina's Ascendant in 0'01 Leo - self,persona,relationships
(could be a strong passionate,sexual attraction)

Brad's Geocentric North Juno Node in 10'21 Libra - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnerships
oppose Angelina's Mars in 10'42 Aries - assertion,passion,physical drive
sextile Angelina's Neptune in 10'20 Sagittarius - inspiration,idealism,dissolution

Brad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 17'39 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matters
conjunct Angelina's Juno in 17'37 Gemini - committed relationships,marriage,partnerships
sextile Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment
sextile Angelina's Midheaven in 17'52 Aries - aim of life,career,social status

In Right Ascension,
Brad's Geocentric North Ceres Node in 16'34 Gemini - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matters
sextile Angelina's Jupiter in 16'31 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment
sextile Angelina's Midheaven in 16'28 Aries - aim of life,career,social status

Brad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'59 Sagittarius - personal connections involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matters
oppose Angelina's Mercury in 22'19 Gemini R - communications,thoughts

In Right Ascension,
Brad's Geocentric South Ceres Node in 21'17 Sagittarius - personal conenctions involving nurturing,caretaking,maternal matters
oppose Angelina's Mercury in 21'44 Gemini R - communications,thoughts

Brad's Geocentric North Pallas Node in 16'52 Libra - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefs
oppose Angelina's Jupiter in 17'25 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment

Angelina's Geocentric North Venus Node in 14'40 Gemini - personal connections involving love,relationships,value systems
square Brad's Pluto in 14'13 Virgo R - transformation,intensity,power
(could be an intense,sexual attraction..involving evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences)

Angelina's Geocentric South Mars Node in 15'51 Libra - personal connection involving assertion,passion,physical drive
square Brad's Mercury in 16'06 Capricorn - communications,thoughts

In Right Ascension,
Angelina's Geocentric North Mars Node in 26'56 Taurus - personal connections involving assertion,passion,physical drive
trine Brad's Midheaven in 27'13 Virgo - aim of life, career,social status

Angelina's Geocentric South Pallas Node in 10'14 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefs
conjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'50 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment
conjunct Brad's Eris in 9'55 Aries - diversity,equality,controversy
square Mars in 10'01 Capricorn - assertion,passion,physical drive

In Right Ascension,
Angelina's South Pallas Node in 9'24 Aries - personal connections involving creative intelligence,political beliefs
conjunct Brad's Jupiter in 9'34 Aries - expansion,optimism,judgment

In Right Ascension,
Angelina's Geocentric South Juno Node in 12'07 Aries - personal connections involving committed relationships,marriage,partnerships
square Brad's Stationary Lunar Nodes in 12'08 Cancer - emotional connections
(his lunar nodes are stationary, and so strong lunar node influence.....the exact aspect is significant.....with the lunar nodes being stationary, even more significant)

It was all done on Solar Fire 6.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 02, 2010 09:35 AM            

I don´t think natal synastry can foretell if a couple will stay together or break up. It is just a map of potential attraction and compatibility.

Maybe the progressed charts or even harsh transits to significant challenging synastric aspects may give the better clue. But even then it is not set in stone.

posted February 02, 2010 09:38 AM            

wow about their aspects!

And given the huge emotional attention they are being given collectively, I suppose it is no surprise that their heliocentric Nodes play a big role, too!

posted February 02, 2010 09:44 AM            

"Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'53 Cancer/Capricorn - collective connection involving transformation,intensity,power
trine/sextile Sun in 19'38 Pisces"
They definitely are a "power-couple", and maybe that is why the collective is reacting so emotionally to them. Such an intensity sometimes evokes fear or makes it easy to project own fears and dsilikes on them.

The fact that this is a trine / sextiles seems to indicate that those aspects are not really all that insignificant, but that they should not be underestimated.

"Heliocentric Ceres Nodes in 20'34 Gemini/Sagittarius - collective connection involving nurturing,caretaking
square Sun in 19'38 Pisces"
Could it be that here all their children are indicated?