posted January 30, 2006 06:23 PM              

We do have a very strong bond and I love our relationship, but I'm not sure if this square business counts since we both have the square in natal, with the same moon.

We have quite a few oppositions though.. His sun/my Venus. My Sun/His Venus.. Our Ascendants.. and My Mars squares his Venus

posted January 30, 2006 08:03 PM              

Actually I have never worked out with someone who squared my sun. Or someone who sextiled it. Geminis usually aggervate me and Libras seem too wimpy. I like the deep, scorpios. You can thank my pisces venus for that

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aquarius sun, pisces rising & venus, scorpio moon, pluto & eros

posted January 31, 2006 02:25 PM              

Wrong, wrong, wrong, leave it alone.

Horrible.

posted January 31, 2006 02:30 PM              

I'm interested in Aspects by Signs too.

The easiest way for me to explain this to myself is, count how any Signs away they are, and ignore the Aspect if they are not Aspected by a (for me very tight) orb.

So if Person A has the Sun in Aries, and Person B has the Moon in Cancer, I consider their energies Squares because I count from Aries >>> 1) Taurus 2) Gemini 3) Cancer. That's 3 away, which is a loose Square BY SIGN. I take it seriously because although not Squared by Degrees (tight orb), the Sun still approaches life like an Aries Sun, and the Moon still approaches life like a Cancer Moon.

Since they are not Aspected by tight orb, I consider it to have LESS STRESS. There is a little bit of opportunity for the two to cooperate, and/or, they may be lacking that intense stress which sometimes gives a relationship interest and fuel to acquire certain things.

But I still remember how each is approaching life.

If someone has a Venus in Taurus, the other has a Venus in Taurus as well, they may not be Conjunct by Degree and may be less intense an Aspect, but they approach their Venus issues in similar manner.

And down the line. That's how I look at it.

posted January 31, 2006 03:08 PM              

And, there are times when you have a Conjunction involving two different Signs. Example: Sun in Sagittarius Conjunct a Sun in Capricorn. .... HUH? How can that be?

Because Sun in Sag is at 29 Degrees, and Sun in Capricorn is at 2 Degrees. Their energies are closely linked, so although they approach life in different ways, they are more likely able to cooperate and understand each other BETTER than others of those Signs who are NOT Conjunct by Degrees...

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An analogy would be a neighborhood where two houses live next to each other on the same street. One house has a family from England where both parents work, and their one child goes to public school. In the house nextdoor lives a single parent from Indiana who home-school's 3 kids and gets aid from the government. Both very different. But they are neighbors, so they have a vested interest to cooperate with each other and respect each other's differences.

Right?

That's how I think of it anywayzzz...

posted January 31, 2006 04:33 PM            

Still, you haven't said why you asked! I'm intrigued. I'll gladly bang on about anything you ask me if you want Though I'm probably not much help.

Do you think it makes the relationship slightly different when the suns and moons are trined also though? Could this be an interesting contrast?

posted February 05, 2006 04:51 AM            

just because your realtionship didn't make it, doesn't give you the right to **** on someone else's parade, does'it?!?

have't you learned anything about astrology, yet?!?

how about a 9 years relationship with this square, and anothet one from Saturn to Moon, and Saturn to Sun, any many other 'cook-book-No-No's"

it can work just fine! one aspect doesn't make or brake a relationship. of course it takes effort! any relationship takes effort! if you don't put it, maybe you don't really want it to work...

the squares work just fine. I'm scary to give more details about my life so that one nice person won't spit on it 'from xperience' it would be my feelings against their bitterness and resentments...

sometime ago I was in love with a man... and this perfectily nicely intended lady on one astrology forum jumped to "advice" me to keep away from him. "it ain't him, trust me" she said.... nothing good will come of it!

she had looked at both our charts and she seemed to know what she was saying... some time later I asked...and learned that the ONLY thing *evil* about my man was his Taurus Moon (such a nice, comforting, afectionate Moon really!).

the-nice-lady had had this bad relationship with a tau moon man and that was preatty much it!

so!
in the memory of the uncertainty and fear that brought to me, I will personally go after ANY such comments form now one!

give us your experience, your books knowledge, but leave the forecasting to God! cos you can't possibly know, no matter how much astrology you've read, how one's life will be!

NO MORE ADVICE!

yes, Swerve - I'm looking at you! tell about your Gemini Moon tragedy. DON"T tell somelse what to do! Pleaz

posted February 05, 2006 05:49 AM              

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Lauren- is Venus opp Sun a good thing? His Venus in Pisces is Opposite my Virgo Sun

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Usually, from what I’ve noticed and read, any traditionally negative aspects involving feminine planets like Venus and the Moon.. are kinda bitter/sweet. For instance Squares/Oppositions to Venus.. from the Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Uranus/Neptune aren’t usually considered all that “bad”.. Saturn and Pluto I'm not so sure about because they are still known as malefic planets.. so they may cause problems.

A Sun/Venus opposition isn't "bad" at all IMO.. but it can cause friction occasionally. Usually you're both very attracted and in love. The Sun person loves the way the Venus person dresses/looks/acts socially, their voice..etc, all those things that make someone attractive (venus).. the Venus person loves feeling appreciated by the Sun person and they get very good vibes from the Sun. They're attracted to the character and personality of the Sun person. I think there’s a lot of genuine “like” and affection with this opposition.. and also mutual respect. Actually I find oppositions, in general, bring a lot of mutual respect, not so much resentment. The annoyances here can come from, either you amplifying the negative traits of his Venus or him amplifying the negatives of your Sun. For instance when you see him flirting, which is a Venusian thing.. you might get extremely aggravated by it, and think he’s being a man-wh0re lol..for lack of a better word .. When he is confronted by your ego (sun) in some way, he might see it as overly aggressive or “possessive” which cramps his Venus style. But the *attraction* will usually see you through these mild problems. So the probs would mainly revolve around jealousy or self-righteousness coming from your side..and that Venusian, Casanova-like flightiness coming from his side.

The “negative” aspects are even *less* negative when both of the energies involved are feminine.. ie moon/venus opposition or square.. or venus/venus…or moon/moon.. You asked about Venus/Venus. That’s another cause for attraction. You won’t find much bickering or problems from female energies.. That same opposition involving the Sun and Mars would be a very different story, and pretty explosive. Though that can also be overcome.. Everything can be.. as long as both people are willing to compromise.

posted February 05, 2006 06:27 AM            

People are going to do what they want regardless of what other people say, especially in relationships. Part of that initial attraction seems to be disregarding any advice anyone gives.

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just because your realtionship didn't make it, doesn't give you the right to **** on someone else's parade, does'it?!?

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People giving advice aren't trying to rain on the other person's parade. The purpose of advice is to help. If you don't like the advice, don't take it. Who are you to judge those trying to help?

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I'm scary to give more details about my life so that one nice person won't spit on it 'from xperience' it would be my feelings against their bitterness and resentments...

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posted February 05, 2006 05:41 PM              

Racking my brain for offering advice here...

I shall explain myself so that things are absolutely clear.

One aspect never makes or breaks a relationship.

My comment above was made tongue in cheek, with the idea getting a rise out of myself. Generally my shorter posts are just that and nothing else.

Just to be clear,

I think thats all.

posted February 07, 2006 04:35 PM            

Lauren- WOW. Bang on m'dear! You really got my number, haha. I reckon he thinks I'm a little possesive yeah and I definately get all rubbed up the wrong way if I even know about other girls being over him... I thought I was just being weird/crazy Well that's a bit of an explanation! Thank you so much! And yep the things I like most about him certainly include his dress, social behaviour and especially his voice!
Affection.... well, I have told him I feel affection.... he says "I don't think I could feel too much affection even if I wanted too." My mum reckoned that means he does feel it but won't show it cos of the 'situation'... I don't know... anyway....

Oh, however there is also his Mars opp. my Sun... which is not feminine planets despite the signs... but there is his Moon trine my Venus and trining Moons/Suns...

posted February 09, 2006 02:14 PM            

but, I was more sensitive to 'advice' at that point, as people sometimes are when something affects them and their lives.

what you're saying, AcousticGod does not take under consideration human nature. we are susceptible to be influenced by feelings more then by logic and reason.

that's why when comfortably sitting at home watching tv, one finds a faster and more effective way to deal with a shark (for instance) than the poor freaked out guy swiming for his life, actually next to the shark.

advice should not be given for free, as it can do more harm. when under stress, a person is sometimes not able to make cool-headed decissions.

plus, under the cloak of 'friendly advice', some people deal with their own unsettled issues.

or, they-re simply irresponsible, superficial folks, who just don't follow the consequences of their actions/words to their bitter ends.

who am I to judge those trying to help? why r you picking on me personally in order to challenge my argument. can't u find a contra-argument to make your point? ]

i never said the 'adviser' is actually trying to do harm. i oly said that it can be sometimes the result. the purpose of advice IS NOT to help. if you lived two days, you should know that one most always needs to make their own minds and a solutions never works twice.

posted February 09, 2006 09:55 PM              

Mutable, it is in my head lol. I've read quite a bit about it, since I have it with my bf. Also, I read an article on www.astrologyclub.org. It's under the "Aspects" section. It explains how every aspect brings out the energies of the planets involved.. so for instance an opposition between the Sun and Venus would also have a sextile undertone, since the Sun is Leo energy and Venus is Libra energy, whereas a conjunction or trine between Venus and Mars would also have an opposition feel to it.. because Mars is very male-aries energy..and venus is very female -libra energy.. So this makes for a feistier trine/conjunction.

With Mars opp Sun, you can easily argue and bait each other, if this is a close aspect. If it isn’t very close, under 3 deg.. then you might not feel it as much. The opposition isn’t as bad as the square. I had the square with someone, out of sign but very close.. We had a lot of other, nicer contacts.. but they weren’t as close.. and this square thing got a bit aggravating.

I found this very accurate for the square at least : http://cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_mars.html

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There is passion between the two of you, and, as they say, a fine line between love and hate. As the result of your relationship, you may live out this expression.

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