posted March 03, 2006 05:29 AM            

Your 10th harmonic - With this harmonic - as you know - being focused on career, recognition, public status, and also associated with the fateful path we tread (MC), the first thing I imeediately noticed was the positions of your MC and ASC - they sit fairly close to each other, which mean they vibrate at a similar frequency in your 10th harmonic. This says to me, that your fate and career is something you think about a lot, you think about becoming a success in your chosen field. But.. they stand on their own, not making any aspects to other planets, and they sit in the fiery sagittarius part of your chart indicating that this feels like a truth you are seeking.

However, most interestingly, the interaction between your Sun/Uranus and other aspected planets seems to be key. You have Venus (creativity, love), Jupiter (expansions, growth, fortune), Moon (emotional drive and nurturing) and the North Node (focused direction in life) all sat in dreamy pisces. I feel this says you are a person of many dreams, of BIG dreams, dreams that ultimately affect the path you walk in life. But how can these dreams become a reality, after all, a dream is just a dream until we make it happen.
So moving to the Taurus, hard working part of the chart, you have Saturn and Pluto on a similiar vibrational wavelength together. They are forming sextiles to your Pisces-frequencied-planets. I think this is urging that to fulfill your dreams, a lot of hard work (Saturn in Taurus) is required to transform them (Pluto in Taurus). And this hard work, adds earth, solidarity and grounding to the dreams, therefore it is possible to realise their potential.

It wont be easy though, because there are challenges. Neptune is sitting in early Aquarius on a vibration of its own, a completely different wavelength. It forms a sextile to the last of your dream-filled pisces plantes - the moon - and so connecting it indirectly but subtley to your Sun/uranus partnership ( the moon trines them). However, it forms a hard square to the hard-working, transformative pair of Saturn and Pluto, it truly will be a challenege to separate and disntinguish some dreams from reality. But with Saturns insistance on material turths and Plutos urging for deep and enduring self-truths, its a good challenge, its likely you will continually question your motives, directions and the potential of the dreams.
Equally, Sun/Uranus are opposing the Pluto/Saturn pair, and Mars joins the fray, adding potent power in its opposition to Pluto. There may be conflict of some form, but there is the ability to work with it harmoniously - because the Mars is trined to the Pisces vibrations - These 3 sections of your 10th harmonic form a triangle between them, so just as the mystic rectangle tries to balance discord with harmony in creative application, then this configuration alows a balance of tense and soft aspects to work together - essential for challenge, essential for the growing of the soft into the hard, and back to the soft again, the perpetual cycle of renewal.

posted March 03, 2006 12:31 PM              

thanks in advance for looking at this. This is the chart astro gave me:

posted March 03, 2006 03:32 PM            

You have quite a potent grand square. It could possibly indicate some tension and negativity within the home, esepcially seeing as Pluto and Mars are in opposition. Maybe their appears to be a warring atmosphere sometimes, or your roots feel unstable, your manhood threatened in some way. The other corner of the grand square has Mercury in opposition to Saturn. The is may point to feelings of restricted communication within the home. Its certainly a very difficult looking configuration. Dont worry too much though, because the 4th harmonic has another function, it serves to show us how we deal with stress and pressure - because its the harmonic of the square.

The 4th house is also the start of our lowest point of our charts, thats why we associate with our roots - just like a trees roots are the lowest point of its organism. The roots ground it. So the 4th house is an area where we find grounding in life. Being the lowest point of the chart, it is connected to the subconscious/unconscious. I think a grand square can be beneficial in many ways here, because it challenges us to find our roots on an inner and deeper level.

One of the things I noticed was the relationship Pluto is forming to your Moon, they are trined. Pluto is a strong force in this harmonic because of its potential conflict with Mars, but the trine to your Moon is a positive sign. I would guess.. that you have in some way learnt to be quite emotionally detached with heavy stress. It does still affect you, but the energy is somehwat lightened. If you also notice the position of your Ascendent, it sits alone, forming no aspects at all, another sign of detachment. And once again, you have Venus in partnership with Uranus in Aquarius, yes another clue that you are able to put mental walls between yourself and conflict.

Jupiter seems like the good guy in this harmonic! Hes forming elegant and harmonious aspects to Mercury and Saturn, instilling positive thinking and optimism.

posted March 03, 2006 07:15 PM              

I haven't got a photobucket, so I used my geocities.
Here's the link
for my harmonic charts 2-10.

I can't remember which is which, I'd be intersted in anything you see in any of those.

5 was creative, and that sounds good.

so, what cha think?

posted March 04, 2006 03:15 AM              

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Gemini sun, Cancer rising, mercury in Gemini, moon in Taurus *29, venus in Taurus, mars in Libra

-I took a walk around the world to ease my troubled mind. I left my body lying somewhere in the sands of time. But I watched the world float to the dark side of the moon. I feel there's nothing I can do.

posted March 04, 2006 03:08 PM            

Hey Mystic Melody, patterns can certainly help establish relationships between planets very quickly, and I think there are quite a few websites that discuss their relevance. Zala, if by any chance you read this thread at any time, could you suggest a couple please? MM, the patterns I look for are not documented on many sites however. I just look for connections or irregular patterns, warped triangles, weird rectangles etc lol. An irregular triangle is quite common, much more common than the perfectly symmetry of the grand trine. An irregular triganle means that there is a mix between harmonious and difficult aspects, and I see this as a balancing of the two, both energies working in concordance with each other. After all, what IS balance? I mean true balance, how is it defined? Most people will say that balance is restoring something to harmony, so in astrological terms, this can even be correlated to harmonious aspects. This is one-sided in its assumption though, balances isnt about harmony any more than it is about chaos. Its a composition of both chaos and harmony, structure and non-structure. Balance is all, the negative and positive in perfect pure partnership. So each of these irregular patterns you see in a chart can have significance, even if they are not covered in traditional astrological dictionarys.

AG, the venutian theme - It does seem this way, Venus is playing a linking role between the strong Taurean and Scorpian areas. Its like Taurus and Scorpio are arguing, tense with each other, and Venus is calming them to co-operate, and she is the one they both listen to.

GingerB, your 5th harmonic has 3 of these irregular shaped triangles I was talking about with MysticMelody! They are composed of a sextile, a trine, and an opposition. In my limited experience, its the opposition that is the main source of energy in this configuration, whilst the trine and sextile try to utilise its enormous creative potential. I talked earlier about true balance being composed equally of negative and positive to create a whole energy, well this particular triangle is an excelent example of that. The sextile and the trine - harmonious aspects - result in a total of 180 degrees of the triangle. And the opposition is the same, 180 degrees. So you have an equality between the polarities. I see it as a highly beneficial pattern, carrying the hugely important keyword - balance (in its most pure sense).

One of your triangles has Venus in opposition to Jupiter, with Neptune acting as the planet who unites them. You have a powerful creative imagination, yet it is prone to restlessness. The venus/jupiter opposition challenges you to be romantically expansive and expressive, you project a strong feminine energy to others, yet this energy needs the neptunian softening, otherwise it will feel like you literally burn others with your feminine drive. I think this is saying that your creative and romantic attitude is best served if it is embued with the tender elements of Neptune. You may have to help me here Ginger, lol, Im not a great astrological interpretor.

The second triangle is again focused on your Venus/Jupiter opposition, but this time Mercury sits in the position of mediation, helping them blend their tension into balance. Mercury in this position would mean that you can obtain much clarity of mind by stilling yourself. Still your mind, detach your emotions, calm your body - much like meditation, but you dont call it meditation, its more natural to you - and this is how you find your creative inspiration. Inspiration is often associated with movement, or symbolic of a flash of lightening, yet it seems your inspiration is more attuned with the image of a mountain - calm, cool, still, unwavering.

The third triangle is probably your most powerful one. You have Sun in opposition to a Moon/Pluto partnership, and grand old Saturn sits with them by the campfire playing songs of unity on his guitar. Okay, first, we'll look at this creatively, then after romantically (5th harmonic is also romance). We get our creative energy from deep down inside of us, from our emotions. Our minds can then express this emotional depth, and add colour to it. But the source of creativity comes from the same place as intuition - the emotions. This is a very powerful triangle because it has Moon and Pluto in partnership, meaning you can reach deep down into that source of creation. The Sun in opposition, allows you to see very clearly new ideas. Its like the sun is standing face to face with your deep moon and saying, ahhh look how deep you can reach into the creative well of life! But the sun would sturggle to utilise this creativity and express it because of their opposition, so thats where Saturn allows a path of exchange between them. But this exchange takes time. Often you will think of something startling amazing, inspiring and uplifting, and then you will forget about it. Although it hasnt been forgotten, it just takes time to manifest itself via Saturns music. And then when some time has passed, you will siddenly recall this great idea you had, and you are now able to express it freely. So the delay between finding the idea and expressing the idea is perfectly natural for you.

Romantically, this can be great!!! Erm.. if you find the right guy lol You are very intense, your emotions are powerful. A man who does not reach similar levels of emotional depth in himself would struggle to identify with you, and even more to the point.. your energy would actually make him feel anxious. I mean REALLY anxious. Its not a fault, god no, its a blessing. But your intensity can trigger a similar response in others romantically, and if the man is not ready for you, it will make him fearful, and he wont even know why. You are triggering his deeper emotions, and this can be painful for many people who have not visited the same deep waters you have. With the right guy, it can be marvellous!! You could express yourself openly and freely, and in doing so activate things inside of the man that he didnt even know were there! And a strong man able to deal with his emotions would feel invigorated and renewed by this connection. Its all about who we 'click' with

posted March 04, 2006 06:21 PM            

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Mystic Melody, patterns can certainly help establish relationships between planets very quickly, and I think there are quite a few websites that discuss their relevance. Zala, if by any chance you read this thread at any time, could you suggest a couple please?

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posted March 04, 2006 08:01 PM              

I have a feeling that the 3rd triangle has alot to do with all those hot steamy love letters, huh?

Thank you.

The 10th, was career, wasn't it?
And I can't help but be curious of the 4th, and the 6th looks very busy.

What, pray tell, do you see in there?
Please, sir.

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Is it partnerships/love you are curious about? (7th harmonic, and could also look at 9th harmonic

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And...

oooh!

posted March 05, 2006 12:38 AM            

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Minor Aspects -- a Major Misnomer?

Last month's (September's) astrology article discussed the major (Ptolemaic) aspects. This month we'll explore some of the less commonly used and less understood "minor" aspects.

Most every astrologer and serious student uses the Ptolemaic aspects (the conjunction, opposition, trine, square, and sextile). But as we reach beyond the staples of analysis, we quickly get into murky territory. Are the "minor" aspects really less important? Can we just ignore them?

First, let's consider the inconjunct or quincunx. This 150-degree aspect is probably the most used of the "minor" aspects. Just 30 degrees (+ or -) from an opposition, it generally is interpreted as a difficult aspect requiring some sort of adjustment in order for the planetary energies to be well integrated. Probably the single one of the lesser aspects to be routinely used, it deserves consideration in the overall chart interpretation.

The quindecile [pronounced quin-deh-chee'-ley] (165 degrees) is just 15 degrees short of an opposition. This aspect, rediscovered by Noel Tyl and further researched and expounded upon by Ricki Reeves in her recently-published book, The Quindecile (see the recommended books section of this Web site) is certainly not to be ignored. It is an indicator of obsession, compulsion, disruption, separation, and upheaval.

The quintile (72 degrees) is thought to contribute an element of creativity based on the involved planets. Especially useful when evaluating career potential or artistic abilities/talents.

The semisquare (45 degrees) is recognized as a tense or challenging aspect. Certainly not as challenging as the square, this aspect can sometimes provide very useful information, especially in a chart comprised of very few Ptolemaic aspects.

The sesquiquadrate (135 degrees) — equal to a square plus a semisquare — is another hard aspect that proves useful in charts where there aren't enough Ptolemaic aspects to give us a solid analytical feel for the chart.

The semisextile (30 degrees) seems to be an even further dilution of probably the least exciting of the Ptolemaic aspects, the sextile. Perhaps mildly benefic, this one can probably be ignored without losing anything significant in interpretation.

I'd also have to group the novile (40 degrees), the decile (36 degrees), the septile (51 degrees, 25 minutes, and 43 seconds), and the vigintile (18 degrees) and others in this category of "safe to ignore". There are many theories — but little agreement — as to the effect of these most minor of the "minor" aspects.

So in summary, I use some of these aspects routinely — namely the Quincunx, Quindecile, and Quintile. Others of these "minor" aspects — especially the semisquare and sesquiquadrate — can at times be of immense help. This certainly applies to unaspected or Peregrine Planets (meaning no Ptolemaic planet-to-planet contact) where the impact of these lesser aspects can contribute information that otherwise might elude us.

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posted March 05, 2006 04:15 AM            

Photographic memory - No, I dont think I have one. I have a very good visual memory - I see things as pictures/images in my head, just like you do when your imagination explores the characters and storyline of a good fiction book, but this happens when I read about science and maths too. Then my memory can just recall the picture and it will speak back all the words/information I learnt/read about it. That being said, Im the kind of person who loses my house key, searches for it for 45 minutes, and then finds it in my pocket - so no special memory here hehe!

posted March 05, 2006 09:18 AM              

My apologies.

Learning this would be so much easier if i was sitting beside someone, and being able to point, and ask questions, rather than flipping from window to window, trying to relate it all together.

I appreciate your time, and would be more than happy to return a tarot reading in exchange for the efforts you've given here.
(or tote {tarot, crystal, i'ching} bags, or a dream pillow...) {just let me know, if you'd like anything.}

Betelgeuse, I am in no hurry, so take your time.

I think one thing that bother's me is not knowing for sure the exact time I was born, so being able to relate what I do find out, with who I am, is very helpful.

And I get the different aspects all mixed up when trying to figure all this out.

As far as creativity, I'd like to share my some of my mind wanderings with you, if you'd like to read them.
(there's other writings there...if you'd like to read further. poems and such.)

posted March 05, 2006 02:57 PM            

Dont worry, I really dont mind doing this. The more charts I do, the better my understanding becomes. I feel a little like you do at the moment - you feel a little fuzzy about the mathematical side and application of harmonics, and I feel a little fuzzy about the interpretative side. But hey, a little fuzziness is good right! Its the most natural condition before clarity and it makes clarity so much more enjoyable to experience Let me say to you though, ask questions about the elements you dont understand, ot the elements you are fuzzy about. Asking questions is the best way to turn fuzzy into clarity. I also hope that others may correct me in my interpretations or offer things I may have missed, because its not my strongest area, and I am willing to accept the mistakes and errors if anyone shows me a better way. Okay, lets have a go

In your 10th harmonic, you have 3 more of these sextile-trine-opposition triangles. The first triangle has Venus in opposition with Saturn, and Neptune sits in the unifying role. I believe this would indicate a need to teach intuitively to others, however, most of your teachings will be to the feminine side of our great species.

You have a very strong triple conjunction in one corner of your 2nd triangle - Sun, Moon and Pluto. Remember, if planets are conjunct in a harmonic chart, this means that they are vibrating at the same frequenecy - they are singing the same song. Conjunct planets show 'great minds that think alike' - planets that share a common feeling together. The energies of Moon, Sun and Pluto all work together as one energy in your 10th harmonic. This is a sign that your indiviuality, emotion and depth of soul are joined. Its very handy because individualaity and emotion conjoined allows for a very empathic expression. You are able to feel emotion on the tiniest level, helping you read others feelings very well. However, they do oppose your Mercury. This means that your intellect works on a different vibration than your emotion, and there could be times when you feel your thoughts and emotion tell you completely different things. You may also have been accused by others as being a person lacking in logic, and you have argued that intuition serves better than logic anyway. So there is a slight conflict between logical articulation of mind, and feeling of heart. Emotion feels more natural to you, you are viewed by others as an intutive soul, although you would like to be seen as an intellectual soul also, it can bother you sometimes. The unifying planet - the planet to help resolve the tension of the opposition - is Jupiter. This is a fantastic influence in this particular situation, it agrees with both logic and emotion. Its message is to try to blend the two, the aspect it forms to Mercury is slightly stronger than the aspect it forms to Sun/Moon, so it is helping you apply more of a balance to the logic in your world.

The Venus-Saturn opposition appears again in the next triangle. And this time the strong section of Sun/Moon/Pluto try to unite their polarisation. Im not absolutely sure, but it looks like you have recieved some harsh criticisms from older females in your life - and the criticisms seem to be centred around something you like giving/teaching to others. You can feel sensitive to such criticisms, although I think the message here is to accept them for what they are - people just trying to connect with you, but they dont know how, so they do so anxiously instead. Use your sensitivty and empathy to see behind their words and lean towards helping them in subtle ways.

posted March 05, 2006 02:58 PM            

In fact, if you look at your 6th harmonic - service to others and work ethic - you have the Pluto/Sun partnership again and also a grand trine between neptune, uranus and moon. You enjoy your work, the variety of it, the spiritual aspects of it. One of your greatest strengths is being able to positively comfort and assure others when they are in distress, the unpredictability and sudden changes of life (uranus) do not phase you, you are able to stay emotionally objective and grounded. The grand trine is linked to another challenging t-square, uranus squares the polarise planets of Venus and Sun/Pluto. This is beneficial though, it shows you will face many upheavals. Routine is something that you struggle with, whether its keeping to a routine consciously, or breaking one. But because this is tied into your grand trine, it allows you to draw good things out of the chaos of life. And this may be a strength others see in you - your calm in chaos.

Okay, this is where I am setting you a task Ginger!! lol Yes yes, its mean of me I know I've left one harmonic - the 7th - the harmonic of partnerships, marriage, relations etc - and I've left this because I want you to have a go at trying to explain it using what you've learnt so far.

Remember, if planets are conjunct in a harmonic chart, this means that they share the same song, the vibrate at the same energy. This is significant because the harmonic will show the invisible links between planets. Imagine a harmonic as something like a rainbow. The full rainbow with all its colours is the natal chart (the 1st harmonic). And each distinct colour contained within the rainbow are the different harmonics, the different vibrations of light. They are all small parts, but parts that make up a whole. Often we can understand the whole better by understanding its parts. Look for patterns in your chart - trinagles, squares etc. Look for oppositions - this means that two planets are sining completely different songs in the rainbow! They are on opposite sides of the spectrum. So the oppositions will often be the things that 'stick out' in your relationships, or the things others experience from you.