posted May 30, 2006 12:40 PM              

Your Pluto is 165 degree apart his Venus. It is quindecile aspect.

Iqhunk

I know that you are very nice spending time writing Karma stuff in another thread. However, I am still not yet quite understand the meaning you said "BETTER HELP" for the aspect. I would be appreciated very much if you can explain. Thanks

posted May 30, 2006 03:41 PM              

Thanks. My English is not good at all. Do you mean GIVE power or HAVE power? Can you explain a little more?

Thanks

posted May 30, 2006 03:44 PM            

I am confused! I'll just take your word for it that it's correct, lol. I'm gonna read about how the aspect is "supposed" to feel, and then I'll let you know how I think it "really" feels.

IQhunk... okay, now I'm worried, is my case that complicated and intriguing? So then, I guess I'm not as crazy as I think I am to be obsessing this much over this guy... hehehe... Quite honestly, I feel crazed over this! I really hate how kooky and nuts he makes me feel. I can't possibly resist him or act indifferent towards him. Believe me, I want to, but it really feels like someone cast a spell on me! I'm powerless against this feeling. I've tried so hard to fight it and forget about him and this whole thing. So hard.

Astrologically, I think this is because his planets hit my ASC/DC line almost exact. Pluto conjunct ASC, his Venus conjunct my Vertex and DC.

posted May 31, 2006 05:22 AM            

I actually found a lot of information on quindeciles in a disussion on noeltyl.com that I could only access via google's cache I hope I can get the best bits of it and share/immortalize it here before it gets erased from the web.

- apparently, quindeciles in synastry are most deeply felt when both parties have quindeciles in their natal charts. I had a look at my guy's natal and the first planet I looked at, I found an exact quindecile (Saturn quindecile Mars). I have 2 quindeciles with Jupiter and my Venus/Neptune conjunction. What they said was that if only one party has a quidecile in the natal chart, THAT person will feel the effects of the synastry quindecile. The feeling may be one-sided. By the same token, can we say that maybe because I have 2 quindecile's, I feel the yearning twice as much?

Let me read back through this thread to see what everyone thought of their quindeciles too.

posted May 31, 2006 06:07 AM            

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Pluto person is intense and probing. Not always obsessive. In the Pluto quindecile Venus, P would call up the V person almost every 2-3 hours to make sure she is ok. There will be many SMSes of love and affection. If there is no reply to even 2 messages, he will feel emotionally upset till a message comes and so on.

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This explanation by IQhunk is EXACTLY, SPOT ON. I'm the Pluto person and if I don't hear from him, I start to feel... unsettled. I must hear from him, about him, talk to him. Then I feel better.

He has indicated to me an obsessiveness, but of course, he's not going to advertise it. We both joke about stalking each other all the time, him flying home or me flying out to LA and following the other person around and then the other person will say "OH STALK ME, PLEEASE! I WISH!!!!"... and then we both crack up laughing. I have told him how obsessed I am with him, but I don't think he takes it seriously, or he brushes it off. I don't think he gets it, and I have to admit, I am pretty damn good at coming off like I have it all together and it's all a breeze and I'm not all caught up in him, you know? If not for my joking about stalking and TELLING HIM "Mr Pisces, I'm obsessed with you"... he wouldn't have a clue. On the other hand, he says little things that "give it away", and let me know he thinks about me a lot. And he has that serious Scorpio rising manner that lets you know he's serious and it chills you to the core. He can look at you in a certain way and say something and you feel it in your bones, you know?

Anyhow, now I'm babbling, but everything I've learned and read about the quindecile for me rings 100% true and makes a lot of sense...

posted May 31, 2006 07:43 AM              

I bought a book "Quindecile". On page 121, it wrote "Pluto and Venus together in a quindecile asepct is a powerful combination because of the enormous need it focuses on the power of relationship."

After reading the book, they did not mention that if you have many quindeciles in your natal, the effect would be more. They just said that you need to have at least one.

From the book, your Venus&Neptune quindecile Jupiter would mean "Addictions, espcapism and codependency many be prominent. May sacrifice all for one's partner." I think the meaning of this aspect itself that double your feeling of obsessiveness.

For my case, it seems that the Venus person is more obsessive. Anyway I do not know, probably, the Pluto person maybe more obsessive but do not want to admit since he does not want to loose his power in the relationship.

I do not have more cases to study this venus/pluto quindecile aspect. It seems interesting to me too.

Alisa

posted May 31, 2006 11:50 AM              

Now, when you meditate sufficiently to release all unreleases auric imprints from all your relationships and even your thoughts
(every deep thought creates a psychic cord form you Aura to the Aura of he one you though about. This is why the masses can be subliminally controlled by film stars/celebrities who capture the imagination of millions.)

Likewise, everytime an ex thinks of you a psychic cord is created from him to you.

So you must tell your Higher Self to remove all these unwanted cords. Using affirmations, clean up your Aura and release all the memory imprints of the past.

I RELEASE ALL UNNECESSARY PSYCHIC CORDS.
Visualize all these cords disappearing. Imagine a clean and wholesome Aura with the proper chakra colours.
This affirmation works very fast along with the visualization.

Next, forgive your twin soul in meditation.
Forgive yourself for all the past lif ehurt you caused. This double forgiveness and release of guilt paves the way to allow your true love for the present lifeline to arrive.
The barriers vanish. Guilt must never exist about any past mistake. Guilt is a real enemy along with arrogance, haughtiness, anger etc. I am sure you dont have the other evils but guilt is a sneaky evil that many associate with good.

PLease read the Labour of Love forum, my post to Kim Rogers on a colour based meditation. Try it out for a few weeks. It is wholeseome, safe and works quickly.

Once you do that, mentally download Pale Pink colour from your Higher Self into your Aura while removing black debris of residual hatred/jealousy/envy/guilt.

Now here is a vital secret . Send Pale Pink colour from your heart chakra to your OverSoul. Then from your heart chakra to God. Imagine this reaching all other OverSouls. This is a meditation that will make you feel very very very air headed if you do it right. You are sending unconditional love from your very core to the Infinite Cosmos of God, Oversouls and subsequently all that exists in all planes. This is one of the most spiritually generous acts.

It is also the highest level mating call
It cleans up your best possible mate spiritually, then synchronicity will make you two meet, someday. It has to happen. 100%.

posted May 31, 2006 01:03 PM            

i am def going to try it out..

sending you love!

posted May 31, 2006 05:14 PM            

so you really think he's my soul mate?

i was kind of hoping someone would tell me to stop being so deluded.

i just checked his myspace and some girl posted a picture of the two of them together in his comments. they're just sitting at a table together, but it made me sick to my stomach.

ugh. i hate myspace!!!

posted May 31, 2006 08:51 PM            

The thing is I know he dates, but he lies about it to me. I guess this is a good thing in a way... because if he didn't care or thought of me as a friend only, then he would tell me about his love life, right? He has nothing to lose by telling me about this girl and that girl. But he's always so insistent that he has nothing going on, no girlfriends, nothing. Even when I knew better and he didn't know that I know. I used to be really upset about that, but I realize he doesn't owe me anything and he's not my man and he can do whatever he wants, and I took solace in the fact that he thinks it's so important to remain available to me, lol.

posted June 21, 2006 06:01 AM              

Tameem, tell me what do you think of the following and if you had a chance to study them yet, I have been doing some research.

Asteroid HYPNOS (14827)

According to the myth, the ancient Greeks said that Hypnos, the god of sleep, visited people during the dark of night to ease them into a state of rest. Hypnos hid from the sunlight during the day According to Greek myth, he was the son of Nyx, the goddess of night, and his brother was Thanatos, the god of death.

Some writers claimed that Hypnos lived in the underworld,land of the dead but others said that he dwelled in a cave on the Greek island of Lemnos. Lethe, the river of forgetfulness, rippled through his dim, foggy cave. The Dreams, some of his many sons, lived with him. The most important ones were Morpheus, who caused sleepers to dream about people; Icelus (or Phobetor), who delivered dreams about animals or monsters; and Phantasus, who brought dreams about lifeless objects.

My findings from a number of charts I looked at is that where HYPNOS falls is an area of dormant activity. For instance, if Hypnos falls in your 8th, you have no real intimacy in your life, it is a dormant area, 11th, same. I don't want to think of it in terms of "Saturn" restriction and probably should not, but more like a willing and conscious "sleepiness", or "drugged" existence.

On the other hand, this could be looked at from another perspective, "Hypnosis", if this asteroid touched another's planet in synastry, should we attribute Plutonian qualities to it in terms of "fascination".
I am yet to look at that!

Now, another asteroid I have been looking at is PENELOPE (201), as the the legend goes, Penelope is one of those mythic heroines whose beauties were rather those of character and conduct than of person. She was the daughter of Icarius, a Spartan prince. Odysseus, king of Ithaca, sought her in marriage, and won her, over all competitors. When the moment came for the bride to leave her father's house, Icarius, unable to bear the thoughts of parting with his daughter, tried to persuade her to remain with him, and not accompany her husband to Ithaca. Odysseus gave Penelope her choice, to stay or go with him. Penelope made no reply, but dropped her veil over her face. Icarius urged her no further, but when she was gone erected a statue to Modesty on the spot where they parted. Odysseus and Penelope had not enjoyed their union more than a year when it was interrupted by the events which called Odysseus to the Trojan war. During his long absence, and when it was doubtful whether he still lived, and highly improbable that he would ever return, Penelope was importuned by numerous suitors, from whom there seemed no refuge but in choosing one of them for her husband. Penelope, however, employed every art to gain time, still hoping for Odysseus's return. One of her arts of delay was engaging in the preparation of a robe for the funeral canopy of Laertes, her husband's father. She pledged herself to make her choice among the suitors when the robe was finished. During the day she worked at the robe, but in the night she undid the work of the day. This is the famous Penelope's web, which is used as a proverbial expression for anything which is perpetually doing but never done.

So as the legend goes, this is where you show "Spartan endurance and PATIENCE" spelled with a capital P. I was struck with two charts where Penelope conjunct Hypnos in the 8th, this is someone who sacrificed love, marriage and intimacy, for career. The 8th house which is by-product of the 7th is almost non-existent in her life. Other factors helping, Valentine square the MC, yet conjunct the Asc. Another chart where this occurs, Penelope in the 12th, and this is someone who had to endure a lot of 12th house issues alone, broken home...etc. The silent type when it comes to 12th house issues.

I liked your definition of CUPIDO (763) where you described it as the arrows that shoot for love. I looked at charts for people who are completely unlucky in love, lol, one has CUPID conjunct MC, almost everyone who wants to be his friend or fall in love with him is because of his public image, sophisticated, cultured, good job...the outside so to speak. Another one has Cupid conjunct her EROS, I don't have to elaborate on that one, self-explanatory!
I think of CUPID more of an external force, it is more like why do people fall in love with us, not how do we fall in love with people.

Looking forward to reading your feedback!

posted June 21, 2006 05:57 PM            

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"

"Love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation"

posted December 15, 2006 09:35 PM            

My Valentine is 3 degrees in Taurus in 8th conjunct his North node.

His Amor is conjunct my North Node in Aries and my DC

My Lust is conjunct his Valentine and ASC and his lust is conj my Neptune.

Now my Hypnos is 19 degrees in gemini very conjunct my Sun and Chiron and Vesta. My penelope is also 8 degrees in Gemini conjunct my Vesta.

posted January 10, 2007 06:43 AM              

Can somebody please tell me what it means if...

His Amor is in my 7th house in capricorn
His Mars conjunct my valentine in virgo
His juno conjunct my moon in leo
And His lust is conjunct my mars in scorpio

My Amor conjunct his chiron in taurus
My Eros conjuct his Amor in capricorn
My Lust conjunct his venus in gemini
My Eris conjunct his moon in aries

Thanks

Katie

posted January 11, 2007 03:37 PM              

I have to disagree with this. I have Saturn at 29 Tau 39, Amor at 1 Gem 30, and Venus at 4 Gem 16 in the 9H.

Since Amor is closer to Saturn it influence it more. Howeve, will I have a healthy respect for authority, I do not "love" or desire it and this th world would be better off with less people acting like authorities. I hate rigidity in all thing (although I do wish my breast were a little more firm - not rigid, just firmer), and while I appreciate structure and sytem in an cerebral, abstract way, I generally dislike living a very structured life. As for long term ambitions - I live with a very undefined future because I hate such commitments.