posted April 01, 2007 07:43 PM              

I've been playing around with the asteroid section in astro.com and I bumped into a few asteroids I think you'll be interested in...
It's Union (1585) and Liebe (7696) [liebe is German for love].
I think there were some more, but right now I can't get to that part of my brain where they're stored. Will come back to post them.
Just thought you might be interested to know. Tell me what you think about them.
I have Union conj the NN of the guy I love, his Union conj my SN... my Liebe conj his Moon and Asc...

Take care, you all knowflakes!

Izo

posted April 02, 2007 04:32 PM              

Been reading this topic and found it very interesting.
The more i know, more i find this fascinating about the asteroids. Recently i´ve red the importance of Quiron ( Magi astrology), is really that important?

Me and my partner have:

composite:

~KIRON trine sun,mercury,mars;semisextile to n.node;oposes jupiter,and uranus and quicunx psyche, and conjucnts MC.
The NORTH NODE trines saturn,pluto ,sextiles asc and quicunkx Kiron.
Eros conjunct sun,trines MC and sextils jupiter.
AMOR squares venus and Valentine sxtiles venus and square mars.
PSYCHE conjuncts saturn,pluto and quicunx KIRON.

Sinastry

my VALENTINE conjuncts his mercury,semiquadrates venus,trine mars,squares Jupiter and trines MC.
my AMOR trines his jupiter
his EROS sextils my merury,quadrates venus,cionjuntcs jupiter and uranus; semisextiles saturn and oposes KIRON.
his JUNO quadrates mercury, trines venus,sextiles saturn and pluto and conjuncts neptune.
His VX trines my mars and my VX conjuncts his MC.
oUR KIRONS conjunct adn have DW on Kiron-venus linkage.
my KIRON trines his sun,nercury and venus; sextiles AND HIS KIRON trines my asc.

In general what do you think of these interaspects ?

posted April 02, 2007 06:36 PM              

**sorry, i'm going to fix that asteroid mess and get back to you, if possible**

posted April 03, 2007 12:25 AM            

So much between me and ma love!

His valentine sits on my moon while his amor opposes it. It also trines my neptune and sextiles my pluto.

My valentine sextiles his sun while my amor trines it.

posted April 03, 2007 06:06 AM              

Izodes, Thanks for Utopia and Union
LIEBE will be useful for those who think in the German language than English. Two local Germans with Liebe double whammy Valentine will be absolutely in love with each other.

Hi Diandre, pls use 2 degree orbs for the aspects and stick to sextile, square, trine and conjunctions for initial analysis. Other aspects must be delved into only after establishing the primary aspects in a 2 degree orb [conjunctions can use 3.5 degrees orb]. I have not studied Magi Astrology yet so cannot comment on Chiron's power for marriage but those Magi Soceity people are totally obsessed with Chiron, as much as I am obsessed with asteroids! I am their fan though because they have bravely chosen a different path, but no time to analyze their work in detail.

JG:Utopia conj Utopia in Cancer means the financial or emotional security, which forms the bedrock of an ideal life for you two, will be realized as a couple.

posted April 03, 2007 07:08 AM              

In our synastry, his Karma conjuncts my Valentine - any idea what that could mean?
Also, My Karma conjuncts his Eros.

In composite, we have Juno conjunct Lust.

posted April 03, 2007 08:41 AM              

If you see this message, would be kind enough to email me pls....i lost your address..

posted April 03, 2007 11:28 AM            

in using themes, systematically, and within orbs..would an eros conjunct vertex with an orb of 1.92 have any signifcance?

posted April 04, 2007 08:30 AM              

Look for the double whammies always, opr atleast look for linked matches.
Example: Karma aspect Eros
Eros aspect Chiron
Chiron aspect True Node
True Node aspect Valentine
Valentine aspect Karma.

posted April 04, 2007 10:49 AM              

Also, do you only look at conjunctions? What about trines, opposites, squares etc.

Also I wanted to ask you about this thing you said in a post,
quote:
* Negativity from ex-husbands and ex-boyfriends is one of the hidden causes of miseries to women in our planet today because everyone has enjoyed the advantages of sexual liberation without understanding the Auric consequences. You have to meditate and release all the Auric imprints from previous sexual relations with your ex before your Aura is clean enough to allow new sexual experiences with a better man *

I have not been involved with anyone now for 7 years, since my last relationship was abusive and I have been very afraid/blocked from trying again with a new partner, however recently I feel it's time to move on and what you said here really struck a cord with me, because I feel like something outside myself is holding me back - could this be it? Any more info or advice you could give me regarding these 'auric' influences?

Thanks in advance

posted April 04, 2007 04:20 PM            

HIS Chiron 28 Aries conjunct MY Amor 29 Aries
Versus
HIS Saturn 25 Cancer conjunct MY NorthNode 27 Cancer

It appears that both of these would be pretty "karmic" I'm just not sure how/what to compare these aspects to (in the rest of the chart) to figure out if they will play out more negatively/positively. His Venus 11 Virgo conjuncts my Pluto 10 & ASC 9 Virgo, and I understand this is one of those whammy aspects - again, I wonder if this works for or against the Chiron/Saturn aspects I mentioned. Oh btw MY Karma 8 Leo conjuncts HIS Sun 8 Leo.

Bottom line, it seems for each negative, I find a positive...and I'm not confident enough, astrologically, to comprehend how it plays out collectively.

I understand astro stuff (planets, aspects, etc)singularly, it's just I've always been very weak in synthsizing influences. As far as astrological concepts, I can't see the forest for the trees - so sorry.

M31

posted April 05, 2007 06:53 AM              

I got your mail. As you have said, everything is so karmic between you and the boy. Chiron opp Valentine is very ouch but it is a way of bringing the unhealed wound of love to your conscious awareness. Master it and the love will seem eternal. Easier said than done!
More than astrology, I am worried about the psychological effects. The age gap is not encouraging. I am of the opinion that this boy is here to teach you what to look for in your ideal mate, and to help you understand what love wounds you have which need healing.
No doubt you were spouses in many past lives.
But this life, it just wont work as a long term relationship. Human (Male) Nature is such that a very vast majority of men just cannot seek conjugal bliss/long term relationships when the women are older. I am worried that this MIGHT be a future Chironic wound if you both continue, him leaving you broken hearted for an early twenties tank top bimbo. It has happened to many knowflakes. It happened to OzMeg22 just a few weeks back. I cringe everytime I see a Knowflake post a synastry with a guy in his twenties or early thirties and is 5 or more years younger. I know what will happen. Male DNA programming is a tough nut to crack. The happiest relationships in my research are when a guy has overcome a tough Saturn return and then guides his spouse to overcome hers (Hawaiian billionaire Robert Kiyosaki and his wife Kim are an example.
She is 8 years younger.)
or when a couple clear their Saturn returns together (Paul McCartney and Linda). Girl first and guy later, just do not seem to work unless both are well above late thirties
or in early forties. And even that can be dismantled by the midlife crisis for the couple from a Uranus oppositon.

posted April 05, 2007 06:59 AM              

<<My Lust conjunct his Part Fortune – Café astrology on Part Fortune points to career;vocation;talents and links to ruling planet of the sign PF falls in so this would be his Neptune in 1st house * phew * so then maybe I am turned on by his public persona or talents? >>
When he makes a fortune, you will desire him. Not for the fortune but for the power expressions he has due to success.

<<His Karma + Eros conjunct my Vertex – I know you’ve said you’ve not studied the Vertex so again I went to Café Astrology and got this info “…it is a point of karmic or fated connection…” so; Not sure who would feel this more, Him or Me, could be His Karma triggering this point in my chart can add to the fated feeling I feel when looking in his eyes, (perhaps he feels fate tapping him on the shoulder when he sees me) also perhaps the Eros connection creates a feeling of this being a fated ‘sexual’ union?>>
I agree with your points here. He would feel it more.

<<Will add more later, but anything you can add or comment on would be appreciate >>
Anytime, I saw all the aspects. Most have been discussed in depth in this string.

<<Also, do you only look at conjunctions? What about trines, opposites, squares etc.>>
All with 2 degree orbs. Sextiles with 1 degree orb.

<<
** Negativity from ex-husbands and ex-boyfriends is one of the hidden causes of miseries to women in our planet today because everyone has enjoyed the advantages of sexual liberation without understanding the Auric consequences. You have to meditate and release all the Auric imprints from previous sexual relations with your ex before your Aura is clean enough to allow new sexual experiences with a better man**

I have not been involved with anyone now for 7 years, since my last relationship was abusive and I have been very afraid/blocked from trying again with a new partner, however recently I feel it's time to move on and what you said here really struck a cord with me, because I feel like something outside myself is holding me back - could this be it? Any more info or advice you could give me regarding these 'auric' influences? >>

I can give advice here based on my life experiences, the thing is to follow it to a tee.

7 years is a loooong time. Most of the auric contents would be cleaned up for sure but the psychological blocks remain entrenched.

Send me an email to tsaied@rediffmail.com, I will send a chakra visualization exercise I adapted from Stewart and Janet Swerdlow (they are excellent researchers in auras/hyperspace and alternative realities).

It will take weeks, you have to be patient.
You have to apply lots of willpower in visualizing. You will start feeling the auric currents if you do controlled pranic breathing and start paying close attention to details.
No booze and cigarettes whatsoever, no pork, no bacon, no ham. Minimal beef.
Lots of vitamin C, E, B complex, Beta Carotene. Alkaline water will help. SPring water is the best. Fulvic Acid will also help.

The physical and mental toxins both have to go. Better bretahing will enhance your auric health when you visualize.

You have to then forgice every single person, past present and future for all acts and thougtts against you. This you have to do with a certainty and then continue to affirm forgiveness for ALL your SIMULTANEOUS LIFELINES of past present and future. Then forgivwe yourself for the hurst you have caused in all lifelines in all timelines.

Things will drmatically change around you when you start doing this. You will get less emotional, more intelligent and more at peace but initially there will be trouble.
People around you who do not match up to your evolved frequency will go away from your life. Disappointment, sadness, fear, guilt and insecurity are NOT AN OPTION. You have to keep releasing the negatives and absorb the positives from the Universal Energy Source fo your Higher Self.

Also, get and read "Decoding your Life" by Janet Swerdlow from cover to cover and follow every sentence of wisdom in that book.

posted April 05, 2007 07:15 AM              

am off to go through the posts again for the rest of the list...

posted April 05, 2007 08:55 AM            

I just hope he's learnt something and doesn't do to her what he did to me, she seems like a nice chick.

posted April 05, 2007 09:08 AM              

First it´s his aspects:

Sun conjunct(5s)my mercury and ASC(0a)
Moon trines pluto and Nnode,PF,conjunct(0a)lILITH AND oposes KARMA
Venus trines mercury,kiron and LUST,conjunct ASC and square APHRODITE
MARS CONJUNCTS JUP(3s),Nep(3s),sextiles ASC
JUPITER trines(0s)Er,AMOR,ASC and squares(2s) KARMA
Saturn trines Nnode(1s),LILITH(4s),PF(1s)and APHRODITE(3s)and cõnjuncts Saturn
sun squares my Neptun(9s)TOLD ME THIS IS VERY BAD??
Uranus conjunct(0s)jupiter,ne~ptun(3a)
Neptune conjunct (2s)Neptun,oposes Nnode(3s)PF(2S)AND APRODITE(1S)
PLUTO conjuncts saturn(4s),pluto(1a),TRINES Nnode(4s),PF and APHRODITE(0s)
Nnode sextils(2a)SUN,squares(3a)ASC and conjuncts MC
KIRON trines(2s)mercury,and ASC
KIRON sqaures(9s)SUN,venus(0a)
KIRON conjunct KIRON,moon,LUST(1a),oposes jupiter(5s),neptun(7s)
VX trines mars
JUNO trines(0s)venus,conjunct(2s)neptun,sextils (1a)saturn and pluto(1s)
PSYCHE sextils(0a)mars
EROS sextils mercury(0s),sqaures venus(2s),conjuncts jupiter(2a) and uranus(2s)
and oposes(2a) Kiron
KARMA trines sun(1a),sqaures(2a)mars,sextils ASC(1a)
APHRODITE oposes mercury(2a),trines jupiter(0a) and uranus(1s),sextils KIRON(0a),oposesASC(2s) and squares(3s)MC
ASC sextils moon,mercury(1a)kiron,and LUST(2a);
MC conjuntc VX(0a),trines kiron(0s)oposes ASC(9a) and sqaures(8a)MC

MY aspects

SUN squares (4s) uranus TOLD ME THIS TO IS VERY BAD?
Sun trines(1a)KARMA
mOON sqaures moon(4s)bq Juno
Mercury sextils(1a)uranus,EROS(0a)and ASC(1a),trines KIRON(2s),oposes APHRODIT(2a)
Venus sextils pluto(2a),trines JUNO(os),sqaures EROS(2s)
mars trines VX(3a),sextils PSYCH(0a)sqaures KARMA(2s)
Jupiter conjunct mars(3s),uranus(0s)EROS(2a),trines APHRODIT(0a)and ASC
Uranus sextils sun(0s)conjunct mars(1s),uranus(3s)and EROS,trines APRHODITE(1s)
Neptun conjunct neptun(2a),juno(2s)
Nnode trines MOON,saturn(1s)pluto
KIRON trines Sun(2s),mercury,venus(6a),oposes EROS(2a),sextils APRHO(0a)and ASC,bq PLUTO
VX conjunctMC (0a)
EROS TRINE jupiter(0s)
AMOR trine jupiter
Karma trines MC(0s)
ASC conjunct sun(0a) mercury,venus and oposes APHRO(2s)
MC conjunct Nnode(2a)and sextils KARMA

When you talk about the orbits,you refer to the numbers between () right?So, the nubers that pass the 2 degrees arent important to analyse?

Sorry for the long post