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Topic: Planets in the seventh house (Saturn, ugh!!)
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GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted July 18, 2006 06:46 PM
Hey I've just started learning about planets in the seventh house, and I was amazed to find out that because I have Saturn in the seventh house I should never have moved in with anyone before I was 29! I did. I was with someone from age 25 to 30, and just like my chart is telling me, I was too young and the relationship crumbled and decayed... also, having Saturn in the seventh house is supposed to make my first partner rather Capricornian... and he was! A Virgo but most definitely with Capricorn characteristics... Not only that, I now know that I won't get married until later in life. Hopefully not TOO late in life. :-/Are there any other Saturn seventh house people here who can relate??? I'm also wondering what it means to have NO planets in the seventh house? Does it mean you would never get married?
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astroleolady Newflake Posts: 6 From: in the ether Registered: Jul 2009
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posted July 18, 2006 07:06 PM
GeminiLover75,My brother has Saturn in the 7th in Taurus. He married at 25, so before the Saturn Return. She left him when Saturn hit her 7th house cusp. It lasted 3 1/2 years and took one year to complete the divorce procedings. The divorce came through when transiting Saturn hit his Descendant, and it was 6 degrees away from his the Saturn/Saturn conjunction, the dreaded Saturn Return. When there are no planets in a house, the house is still activated by the planetary ruler of that house, it's placement in the chart and it's aspects within the chart. So having no planets in the 7th house doesn't mean that you won't get married. You just may. Good luck to you! IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted July 18, 2006 07:17 PM
Hey,I have Saturn in the 8th (intimacy issues), but close to the cusp, so, it can be interpreted in both houses (urgh!). But I have Jupiter in the 7th, so, yay! Sorry to hear about the difficulties. Its worth reflecting that Saturn brings deep wisdom, albeit hard-won. In later life, you will approach this area with great seriousness, wisdom, and depth. Your partner could be very stable, strong and responsible. There is a bright side to every planet, and, in fact, I would even suggest that, the darker the dark side, the brighter the bright side. Focus on attracting/selecting partners who embody the more positive projections of Saturn, but dont forget that the 7th house is still in YOUR chart, and is you, when you own it. If there are no planets in a house, look for the planet that rules the sign on the cusp of the house (and, to a lesser extent, the planet that rules any sign touching the house). Consider the sign and house placement of that ruling planet, and whatever aspects it makes. That will tell you a lot. This is well worth considering, even when there are planets in the house. happy hunting!, hsc IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted July 18, 2006 08:33 PM
Ok, very interesting... I'll come back to this thread later when I can put more time into a response. But I also just noticed that my current partner (of one year)'s seventh house is Scorpio. No planets. So I should be considering Pluto? Definitely he can be intense in relationships, all or nothing. Also he has Jupiter in Scorpio but it's 28 degrees 8th house - so it is very close to the 7th. (We have a nice mutual Jupiter/Moon interaction going on - hence lots of fun together... me=Jupiter in Aries, Scorpio Moon, him=Jupiter in Scorpio, Aries Moon; my moon is in his 7th house). I'll take a closer look at all of this tonight or tomorrow. If anyone can throw me any hints I would appreciate it! Back later... IP: Logged |
goldielox512 unregistered
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posted July 18, 2006 09:03 PM
i am a taurus with capricorn 7/8th house 29th degree my husband of 18 years is a virgo. capricorn ascendant 29th degreei was married once before at 18 years old and divorced at 27 couldn't stand the person any longer. IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted July 18, 2006 11:14 PM
I have Saturn in 7th House AND Saturn square Venus. It didn't stop me from getting married but then everything went pretty much by the book. My ex was a Virgo, 14 years older than me. At first, I looked at him as some sort of spiritual/life in general teacher but when it has worn off his neat-picking and hypochondria drove me absolutely up the wall...lol. Hopefully, 11 years with him paid my saturnian dues. I still like the older men though...sign...and seem to attract them with amazing consistensy. IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 12:32 AM
Yeah, I can so relate to that about the older men... from the info I found about Saturn in the 7th house it said my first partner would be considerably older than me (around seven years) - this was correct. I was 25, him 32 or 33, I can't rememember exactly now. And the fact that he would be so Capricornian... oh my. Quite amazing. In the end, it was that very thing (and the Virgo nitpicking and stomach aches and pains which he never did anything about except for complain and moan about it... geez I felt like a mother/nurse all in one), that drove me absolutely nuts. I've come to the conclusion that Saturnian men are no good for me, no offence to any reading this but it's too boring for me. In the end I felt like five years of my youth were spent like an older person. Ever since then I haven't wanted an older man again - my current partner is only four years older than me and, being a Gemini, doesn't seem his age at all. The youthfulness of it all and the way we relate to each other is so refreshing...I just wonder if having this placement will ALWAYS cause me to learn hard lessons from love, or have I now learned that lesson with my first partner? My Saturn also happens to be in Cancer, do you think this would have any bearing on the fact my mother doesn't like my boyfriends? In the end she liked my first partner a lot, but it took a while for her to get past the fact I had moved in with him and she had a lot of false bad impressions about him. The pattern now repeats itself with my current partner. I feel like she holds me back a lot, is this a Saturn in Cancer thing??? Just wondering... I still even feel like my ex wants to hold me back, they don't like it when I change and grow or want to do anything exciting... I'm still friends with him but it's like as long as I still spend time around him I'll always feel held back by his influence. Could this be the Saturn effect of him as well as the Saturn effect of my mother? My sister has also been like this with me over the years, and she is a Cancerian, with you guessed it, a Capricorn moon... is this all just a coincidence or does Saturn really affect relationships with me in this way? Back later...
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Full-fifthhouse-loulou unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 06:28 AM
Hey GeminiLover,Don't despair - you'll be married for sure m'love! In answer to the question about having no planets in the seventh house and not getting married.... I have none whatsoever there and I have been happily married for seven years. However my hubby does have sun, jupiter and neptune in his seventh which would explain his happy marriage side of things! He instigated it all too. I have Capricorn on the cusp of my seventh house. This is interesting as it's ruled by Saturn and I got married during my Saturn Return....I was 28 and a half. And my seventh house ruler Saturn is in Taurus in the 11th house...... and my marriage is certainly stable and secure...and we started out as friends.... Interesting topic GeminiLover......I do think we should all wait until our Saturn Return before getting wed....we change so much during that return...... HSC you'll be lucky in marriage I guess with jupiter in the seventh....and in leo I do believe you've said. Sunny leo will shine on your marriage... but you're going to need to be adored!.......just wait until your Saturn Return before you do it!!! ------------------ SCORPIO SUN 5TH HOUSE ASCENDANT CANCER CANCER MOON 12TH HOUSE IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 08:52 AM
I don't have any planets in the 7th. I have Chiron in Gemini in the 7th though, whatever that means. IP: Logged |
BlueEyes24 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 09:28 AM
Most of you have probably already read this, but this was off cafeastrology.com (the chiron in the 7th description was soooo true for me): The ruler of the seventh house also shows facets of the native's personality that are strongly played out in relationships. Check the aspects this ruler makes. These are personality dynamics that are most apparent in partnerships.
People with planets in the seventh house are attracted to partnerships, in part, to fulfill the needs associated with that planet. In some cases, that facet of the personality (represented by the energies of the planet in the seventh house) feels underdeveloped in one's own life, and there is a drive to experience it more fully through relationships. This is why a heavily-posited seventh house often suggests a person who is especially attracted to one-on-one relationships or partnerships. With personal planets in the seventh house of the natal chart, a person may feel a strong need for a partner to fulfill basic needs in one's own personality, which can ultimately weaken a partnership if the native doesn't take on more responsibility for that part of his or her own personality. The Sun in the seventh house suggests a person who negotiates and compromises. Partnership is important to the native, and one's identity is heavily wrapped up in partnership. The ego comes into play in relationships, and there can be a tendency to focus a little too heavily on keeping scores and trying to balance things out. Most important here is to avoid losing one's identity in a partnership, because it will wear the person down and resentment of the partner is quite possible. With the Moon in the seventh house, the native experiences a powerful neediness in relationships. The emotional connection to the partnership is strong. The drive to care for, and to be cared for, in a relationship is strong, and a relationship that fails to meet one's emotional needs will ultimately be unsatisfying. With Mercury in the seventh, the native's self-expression and ability to communicate comes alive in partnership. This person needs to be heard in order for the relationship to be satisfying. Venus in the seventh house suggests a strong need for harmony and balance in a partnership. The native has a hard time dealing with insensitive or volatile relations and strives for peaceful co-existence with a partner. The native avoids "rocking the boat", which can ultimately weaken a partnership. With Mars in the seventh house, the native feels alive through partnership, and sometimes will depend on a partnership to feed his or her drive and stores of energy. A relationship that is too peaceful or placid may leave the native feeling dissatisfied. He or she is looking for an active partnership, and may depend too much on a partner for motivation, disowning his or her own drive. That may be too much responsibility for a partner to bear in the long run. Outer planets in the seventh house are less about disowning a part of ourselves, and more about qualities that we seek in our partnerships. With Jupiter in the seventh house, we look for a partner who is generous and high-minded in spirit. The native needs to feel that he or she is growing through a partnership, and has a hard time finding a partnership that seems to be stagnating satisfying. Saturn in the seventh house has has a bad rap. In my experience, this position of Saturn does not seem to deny or delay marriage. I have seen enough people with Saturn in the seventh who have married young, and whose partners are not considerably older than them. However, it does suggest a gravitation to a responsible and mature partner, as well as a heavier and more serious view of partnership than average. The native takes his or her partnerships seriously and will usually go to lengths to fulfill his or her responsibilities in partnership. The native has a hard time dealing with excessive neediness in a partner, and often feels a lot of pressure in and through a partnership. If trust is compromised, there may be a tendency to withhold affection. The person may "go through the motions", but will withdraw emotionally when hurt or slighted. A person with Uranus in the seventh house often is drawn to a partnership that breaks some of the traditional "rules". There is a need for space and freedom within partnerships. Natives with this placement of Uranus need to be careful that their need for a unique and untraditional partnership doesn't eclipse a true connection with the partner. Neptune in the seventh house suggests an attraction to a partner who is in need of help or who comes to one's own rescue. The desire for a spiritual connection to a partner is strong, but there can be a real problem seeing the partnership clearly, and, if this is the case, it is easy to feel taken advantage of. Pluto in the seventh house suggests an attraction to partnerships that turn the life inside out. The tendency to be fearful of losing a partnership is common with this placement. The native may attract partners who are possessive, and if this is the case, it is usually because he or she is projecting his or her own fears of being abandoned onto partnerships. Chiron in the seventh house suggests a certain defensiveness in partnerships. There can be a fear of opening oneself up to partnership, and a tendency to bend over backwards to be "fair" with a partner. If the native skirts emotional issues out of fear of rocking the boat, he or she puts undue pressure on the partnership. IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 09:28 AM
I have about 30 people in my astro.com database. Married, divorced, single... and I didn't find any correlation with 7th House being occupied or not. My friend who was never married has Jupiter, Pluto and Neptune in his 7th House. He is 48 now and it's very unlikely he will ever marry. Well, at least, he has no desire at this point. On the other hand, someone happily married with two children has nothing in 7th House.I think it has more to do with your life lessons in general and whether partnership issues need to be addressed. GeminiLover, you made me laugh. Your comment about aches, pains and being a nurse was such a deja vu. IP: Logged |
Stargazer Knowflake Posts: 46 From: just left of center Registered: May 2009
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posted July 19, 2006 10:26 AM
GL75.... Hi! I have a loaded 7th house...it spans Leo and part of Virgo in my chart with cancer on the cusp of the 7th (no planets in Cancer)... 7th house Leo: Ceres, Jupiter. Pallas, Vertex 7th house Virgo: Sun, Mercury and Venus I have been married twice both to Cancers The 1st was when I was really young and it only lasted 3 years.. The second was when I was 29... You do change so much in your 20's... I think some people "grow up" faster than others... Just relax and enjoy the moment...You'll know when you are ready for that commitment. I think what HSC said was very wise : ******There is a bright side to every planet, and, in fact, I would even suggest that, the darker the dark side, the brighter the bright side. Focus on attracting/selecting partners who embody the more positive projections of Saturn, but dont forget that the 7th house is still in YOUR chart, and is you, when you own it.******** I have Saturn in my 7th now...It will conjunct Jupiter this fall... And then everything else... It should be quite a ride....I have fretted (Virgo) about it but have decided to just say "WEEEEEE" and try to stay positive that there will be bessings abound.
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victoriasgirl1 unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 08:21 PM
Hey GL-I too have Saturn in the 7th & also have wondered if I'll ever marry. Also, Venus in the 4th so I'm pretty sure that whole marriage thing is gonna take it's sweet time. And I too have been attracted to numerous Caps-both male & female. Some of my best friends (girls) have been Caps, very responsible all of them. Maybe unconciously seeking what we lack?IP: Logged |
Heart--Shaped Cross unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 10:31 PM
Thanks Full-fifthhouse-loulou and Stargazer.
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AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 8846 From: Santa Rosa, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2006 10:47 PM
I don't have Saturn in the 7th. I have it opposite the 7th, opposite my Mercury and Venus (in the 7th). That's not terribly kind either, but I am ok with getting married late (I'm a Capricorn with Saturn in the 1st). I think I have a lot to accomplish before marriage, and I sometimes think the right woman won't recognize me until I've done some of the things I need to do.IP: Logged |
pisces-girl unregistered
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posted July 19, 2006 11:23 PM
i don't have saturn in the 7th house but i have it the 5th house conjuct my moon. however i noticed an interesting thing...i have uranus (scorpio) in the 7th house (trine sun-pisces and jupiter-cancer according to astro.com) my ruler of the 7th house is venus my venus is in aquarius in the 10th house and i have venus parallel uranus in matching degrees... umm..any interpretation on that? looks like i won't be getting married to me... i don't know... anyone else have any of these aspects? IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2006 11:57 PM
GL,My 7th house is empty, but I did get married all the same! Since the cusp of my 7th is in Gemini, I love to have stimulating conversation in relationships; they make for a great connection! I did not marry a Gemini though; it was a Scorpio. I liked the article posted by BlueEyes; it seems to explain it pretty well. Here's a little blurb on Saturn in 7th: "Saturn in the Seventh House When Saturn is posited in the Seventh House there is a strong indication that the native may marry someone who is considerably older. It also signifies some delay in the consummation of marriage. The marriage partner will be extremely frugal, to the point where he or she is over-cautious concerning financial matters and if this is carried to an extreme unhappiness will result. In certain instances the health of the partner causes considerable anxiety and the partner soon becomes a burden. The nature of this problem, as always, will depend upon sign position and aspects." Ok, I don't think this should be taken literally; I rather see this as an indication of things to come, UNLESS we make some conscious effort to change it to how we like it. For instance, i have Saturn in my 9th house, which supposedly means that long-distance travel can have an adverse effect on my health. Well, I've lived in 4 countries so far, and travel extensively (I must've gone on about 9-10 trips since this year alone), and I've never had any bad experiences with it (well, except for my baggage being delayed a couple times), and all this travel suits my Sag Ascendant very well, so I'm not giving it up anytime soon! Anyhow, I just wanted to say that I'm sure you will marry if you & your guy want it! So what else is in your 7th house outside of Saturn? Does your Moon make any aspects? I think that might also be indicative of who you'd be drawn to, and the kind of relationships you might have. How about Venusian aspects? - Venus in my chart sextiles Mars, squares Neptune, trines Uranus, and is the focal point of a Yod involving Pluto & Saturn. That means that being in love is a very complex thing for me since it activates a whole HOST of planets in my chart!! Sunshine IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Beehive, TX Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 20, 2006 12:08 AM
PIsces-girl,Here's a read on Uranus in your 7th house: "When Uranus is posited in the Seventh House it provides a romantic nature for the native. Sometimes, because of the strong inclination to romance, the native marries either very early or very suddenly in life. He must be careful here to employ a certain amount of discrimination otherwise he may make the wrong choice. He generally succombs (sp) to infatuations and will often follow temporary fascinations rather than true love. He must learn to be cautious with his emotions. He has a tendency to drop one association for another without carefully weighing the outcome." Venus in the 10th house: "Venus in the Tenth House affords the native a strong attraction to the artistic professions. The native may be connected, in one way or another, with some form of singing, dancing or acting. This is an excellent influence for financial success in the banking, accounting or insurance worlds. The societal and public position ensures the native considerable prestige. The native may exert some political influence if he can learn to blend his political views with his social life in which case he should attain high personal prestige." How does that sound? Sunshine IP: Logged |
Kamilla unregistered
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posted July 20, 2006 07:58 AM
SunshineYour interpretation of Saturn in 7th House describes my marriage very accurately. However, I don't think that anyone should feel doomed by this placement. Just like you said, there is a lot more going on in anyone's chart. I am not a big fan of Jonathan Cainer but I like this quote. It applies more to transits but still "If you have got a "weak" planetary force pushing you in one direction and a "strong" one pulling you in another - you DON'T have to go with the stronger one. You can "tune in" to the potential of the weaker signal - just as you can tune in to the signal if the faint radio station with a little determination. If the programm being broadcast is worth striving to hear, you can "catch it" ....as long as you are aware that it's actually there to found. Never forget that you have a choice about what happens in your world. You want to be happier - you can be.... regardless of what's going on in the sky. Likewise, if you are really determined to give yourself a hard time , you can probably manage it, no matter how bright the astrological influences are! Knowledge is power - and power over quality and direction of your own future is the aim of the game" IP: Logged |
GeminiLover75 unregistered
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posted July 20, 2006 05:17 PM
quote: When Saturn is posited in the Seventh House there is a strong indication that the native may marry someone who is considerably older. It also signifies some delay in the consummation of marriage. The marriage partner will be extremely frugal, to the point where he or she is over-cautious concerning financial matters and if this is carried to an extreme unhappiness will result.In certain instances the health of the partner causes considerable anxiety and the partner soon becomes a burden. The nature of this problem, as always, will depend upon sign position and aspects."
Ahhh OMG this describes my first 'marriage' ie long-term living together partnership (five years) to a T! Since you ask, I have no other planets in the 7th house but Cancer is the sign there. As for my current man of one year, I was looking at our composite chart yesterday and there are three Venus trines and five Pluto trines (with Pluto in the 8th house... freaky); we do have a very intense relationship in the ways those aspects describe, the only problem we hit regularly is Mercury square Mars (we need to work on this). As for our moons, in synastry both of our Jupiters conjunct each other's moon, which is nice. I would marry him just like that, but in the past he's been the type that worries about losing his freedom and independence (Gemini Sun, Aries moon)... so... maybe he'll surprise me but I will have to see what the future brings! IP: Logged |
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posted July 20, 2006 05:21 PM
Ive a loaded 7th house and have been married three times...says it all really, doensnt it....? The eternal romantic....Saturn is in my 9th house in Saggi. IP: Logged |
The Virgin unregistered
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posted July 21, 2006 07:41 PM
Hi, My Saturn/Aries exalted is in my seventh house. How do I interpert this?IP: Logged |
Kat unregistered
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posted July 22, 2006 04:05 PM
I have Saturn in the 7th Need I say more? IP: Logged |
Sikanda Knowflake Posts: 1136 From: 28080 Registered: Aug 2015
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posted November 28, 2015 05:40 AM
I love what Heart--Shaped Cross wrote: the darker the dark side, the brighter the bright side is. That is very true with Saturn. It makes you confront your inner fears so that you become strong from it and you don't fear anymore.I also have Saturn in house 7th. I was not a person to go after boys and I was never a party lover or a social butterfly. Things just happened, and I met them in class/at work (I have my Moon, Venus and Pluto in the 6th house, Pluto is in the cusp though). My first love was a Capricorn with fire in him. My second love was different from the first one in every way, I behaved more childish with him, and he gave me love and tenderness. But he was also stable. No idea how my next love will be, but probably very different from the other two lol. I have my seventh house in Scorpio but for some reason I can't stand the drama and emotional intensity that comes with them. And a jealous, overcontrolling man is a big turn off for me! My second love I adored how he completely trusted me whatever I did. IP: Logged |
StubbornVirgo Knowflake Posts: 2948 From: Welcome to Mercury Registered: Jul 2015
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posted November 29, 2015 12:43 AM
I have a loaded 7th house (Sun, Mercury and Venus). I'm in my mid-20s. I haven't married anyone yet and I'm in no hurry to do so.I wouldn't worry about whether or not Saturn is in your 7th house and what that means for you in terms of marriage. I'm sure there's plenty of people with Saturn in 7th who married sooner than they thought they would, just like there is people with loaded 7th houses that never married at all. There's a lot of other factors that go into whether a person decides to get married or not. IP: Logged | |