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posted July 24, 2006 08:11 PM            

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You've got me thinking... I never thought of this as bestowing Piscean traits, but now that you mention it... there is a certain dreamy, SUPER-EMOTIONAL cast to my personality. With my sun, mars, and neptune in Sag, I've always wondered why I'm so (outwardly) un-Sag.

People are usually surprised to find that not only do I have this Sag stellium, but my rising sign is also Sag. I am usually pretty sullen and emotional.

So, for those of you who haven't said so already, in what sign are your twelfth house suns?

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posted July 24, 2006 09:50 PM              

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My Sun is in Aries, very often sacrifice,and always rewarded,but loses can be so painful

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posted July 24, 2006 10:18 PM            

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Do you have a lot of fire in your chart, ElenaP?

If so, do you feel like the descriptions of fiery gals like us don't quite fit?

For me, it's like I do relate, but often I read that fire people are never down, always upbeat, life of the party, etc... but that's not really me. I have my moments, and lots of them, but I definitely have my more muted side.

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posted July 24, 2006 11:42 PM              

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posted July 24, 2006 11:42 PM              

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It's difficult to explain, no, i'm not that reckless kind of woman. I love to spend some time alone to dream,strange but nearly all dreams came true,though i love people,but very often my image is in contradiction with innerself. I think the planets position in the 12 house gifted me with the SENSE of people, situatins and it developed after many years of living in a strange town, with strange people,so a lot of fire ,yes,but directed not only on happy - self - expression.

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posted July 25, 2006 01:03 AM            

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Yes... sensing people/things. I suppose this is a very intuitive placement.

Makes sense.

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posted July 25, 2006 01:20 AM              

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future_uncertain...i get you, i get you...

LOVED, your poem...
mind if i post it in my blog?

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posted July 25, 2006 05:19 PM            

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I don't mind at all! It makes me think of how I (and I'm guessing other 12th house sun people) like to revel in this aloneness sometimes. Kind of like reading under the blankets with a flashlight!

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posted July 25, 2006 05:26 PM            

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And in all honesty 12 house moon is just as crazy and can be dark also if you except that.. I have a 12th house moon and I have finally learned to grow into it..Its amazing now and I would not trade it for any other house...

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posted July 25, 2006 05:46 PM              

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posted July 25, 2006 07:39 PM            

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I bet you're right, Mama Mia. Do you feel it still hinders your self-confidence at all or does the emotional moon feel comfortable there?

I don't remember your sun sign. I'm thinking it was Cancer? Or maybe that's just the "Mama" in your screenname sending me Freudian vibes!

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posted July 25, 2006 07:48 PM              

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I have an aqua sun singleton in the 12th.
Plus a Pisces rising & a Pisces Venus conjuncting at 4 deg.
I'm definately not one of those dumb, bubbly people. I'm very serious and always thinking deeply about something..sometimes I hate it, because I'll go off in my own dream world in class and stare at someone, then they'll turn and look at me and I'll keep staring because it's like I don't even realize what I'm doing! I hate when I do that, so I've been trying to stop..
I've always been very serious, even as a child. Last month my mom said "You know, you never really acted like a kid. You were always serious about everything."
I dunno if that has anything to do with my sun in 12 though, lol.
But a lot of times I'll slip into this mood where everything is dark and people are out to get me...I have a bad case of paranoia. Which is peculiar for my Aquarius sun and Libra moon...
When I first meet someone, I always psychoanalyze them- I can also sense if they are good or not. I want to be a psychologist, as a matter of fact

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posted July 25, 2006 08:01 PM              

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Lousianagrl,
yeah, maybe it has something to do with the sun in 12th...
i'm always staring into space (i may/may not be thinking)....i just do it.
and people ask me, "what are you thinking..."
i say, "nothing..." -they never believe me. the guys esp. want to hear something...
Hm, do you have Neptune Opposition Ascendant?

but my serious nature might also come from my stellium in cappy or virgo....not sure. i have just about the same amount of scorpio, pisces, and next virgo and capricorn in my chart...so *shrug*

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I can also sense if they are good or not. I want to be a psychologist, as a matter of fact.

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Haha, same here.

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posted July 25, 2006 08:09 PM              

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Taurean_scorpion:

Yeah, I have four planets in Capricorn, so that's probably a factor...lol.
I have Neptune at 15 deg. Capricorn and...sun at 15 deg. Aquarius.
Geez, I'm glad I'm intuitive but I hate being so 12th house-ish! I've been taking zoloft and it's helped a tiny bit. How do you handle your chart problems (I should probably word that better but not sure how)?

That is, if you have 'chart problems'. Maybe it's just me that needs to loosen up. grr..this really hurts my pride.

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Sun::Aquarius
Moon::Libra
Asc&venus(conj.)::Pisces
Mars::Gemini
Merc.Saturn.Nep.Uranus:: Capricorn

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posted July 25, 2006 08:45 PM              

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Indeed i have chart problems.

I don't know how i handle my chart problems...it's sad.
i don't know what to do. I just spend my time miserably and hope it'll pass.
a few years ago I should've taken some kind of medication but i didn't. I was scared, my whole family was scared of me, just as i was. I wish someone was there to tell me they loved me,...no matter what. That's all i needed to hear,

I'm too lazy to say everything, so...this is mine.

Sun Taurus 12°28'13 12
Moon Scorpio 20°53'09 06
Mercury Taurus 25°56'16 12
Venus Gemini 23°50'50 12
Mars Aquarius 17°12'39 10
Jupiter Taurus 12°36'39 12
Saturn Capricorn 02°10'38 06
Uranus Capricorn 00°43'31 06
Neptune Capricorn 10°04'27 07
Pluto Scorpio 11°09'27 06
True Node Pisces 21°59'41 11
Ascendant Cancer 07°11'49

aspects that trouble me
Sun Square Mars 4°44
Sun Opposition Pluto 1°19
Moon Opposition Mercury 5°03
Moon Square Mars 3°40
Mars Square Jupiter 4°36
Jupiter Opposition Pluto 1°27
AND, Venus Opposition Saturn... <- hate this.

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posted July 25, 2006 11:02 PM            

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Most of my 12th house stellium is in sag. I'm anything but energetic and outgoing like one. Now it does include outer planets but I think the effect of my chart ruler (saturn) being there makes my chart "Neptunish".....and depressing. It is saturn afterall. The funny part is that I don't get along with many pisces.

I also need some time to myself to think, reflect, and daydream . My father never understood this..."Why can't you be like everyone else?!" It was kind of dissapointing, and annoying at the same time because he's always been concerned with corforming. I read that website Love posted and Uranus in th 12th seems to fit into why he was like this. He wanted me to be like everyone else so I had to supress this "original" side of myself.

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posted July 26, 2006 12:43 AM              

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Taurean_scorpion:

Wow you have moon in Scorpio- I've noticed that these are very complex individuals. And emotional...I have moon in the eighth. Unfortunately.

I'm not so good at dealing with aspects. I'll show you mine and maybe you could shed some light..?
Sun Trine Moon 7°06
Sun Opposition Jupiter 7°30
Sun Square Pluto 5°04
Moon Square Mercury 5°35
Moon Square Saturn 7°25
Moon Square Neptune 6°56
Mercury Conjunction Saturn 1°50
Venus Square Mars 3°54
Venus Quincunx Jupiter 0°12
Venus Sextile Uranus 3°48
Venus Conjunction Ascendant 3°30
Mars Sextile Jupiter 3°41
Mars Trine Saturn 4°17
Mars Square Ascendant 0°23
Uranus Conjunction Neptune 3°40
Neptune Sextile Pluto 4°54

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posted July 26, 2006 01:15 AM              

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Lousianagrl,

Moon in 8th,... *nods*
That's a LOT of squares...must be hard to deal with.

(hug)

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posted July 26, 2006 03:35 AM              

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Hey Future,

We have almost the same 12th s placements in teh same sign, and the same rising. My Sag Mars is just barely in the 1st, so I guess it could be viewed as a 12th houser. Mercury is also in the 12th, and I have a Pisces Moon . I am Archery, but my Fire isn't visible on first glance. I feel out my surroundings and must feel at ease before truly "exposing" my self, if that makes sense.

My sister is an Aries Sun in the 12th and a Capy Moon in the 8th. She is clearly a Ram girl. She's confident, a leader, and takes no bs from anyone. She'll never back away from a confrotnation, and takes things in stride. She does have a very soft side to her, and is very intutive. She loves helping people, and is finishing her Masters in Marriage/Family therapy.

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posted July 26, 2006 10:30 AM            

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Future Uncertain: I am Pisces, In all honesty I do believe in the houses and all the astrology placements and stuff, but I have to go back to my family structure on this. Also my level of spirituality. I come from a strong line of women that handled their business. My maternal Grandma a Aries woman strong as strong can be. There were certain things instilled in me from a little child and yes as I got older those things were tested and challenged. BUT bc my mom and grandma instilled things in me I it was hard to shake me..

My 12th house moon along with my Pisces Sun and hugely my family and defintley my spiritual background allows me to breakthrough it all...I love my 12th house placements Moon and Venus in 12th house..

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posted July 26, 2006 04:36 PM              

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As a twelfth-house resident I feel that I never really experienced "youth". I am 18 years old, mind you, and I feel much older. I always gravitate to social circles that consist of people older than me.
By 'missing out on youth' I mean I've never felt totally free, and uninhibited... there's always a black hole inside that kinda devours my ability to be lighthearted. I take things seriously. People tell me I'm an "old soul".
Do other twlefth-housers experience this?

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posted July 26, 2006 11:46 PM              

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Yes...

Feeling like an old fart right now (and I'm only 21!)

Looks like you know the details too, from your description. Maybe father time will change it some day?

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posted July 27, 2006 12:48 AM              

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luna*tic12,

my answer to your question,
hell yes.

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