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Topic: Sun in 12th
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future_uncertain
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posted July 22, 2006 11:45 AM
  
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breakfast on pluto
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posted July 22, 2006 12:58 PM
scorpio sun in 12 house..i am very disturbed in this position..sometimes..i feel like dream..i easily broke up from my environment..like sleep when i watch people..and although i am good at writing and expression;in crowded place i am very very shy...tahnk gods my asc saggy help me..actually people say that this placement shows father issue problems..now i am thinking i studied dormitry from thirteen..i have away from my family until 23 years..nearly 10 years..i m like that..
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Planet_Soul
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posted July 22, 2006 03:12 PM
I've had issues with self-confidence and expresion. I'm still working on not retaining negative feelings, to be later consumed by them. I've had power struggles with my father, and only recently have searched for closure. They say it takes awhiel for Sun in the 12th to discover themselves, and so far that has been the case for me.IP: Logged |
Kat
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posted July 22, 2006 04:02 PM
sometimes it's a very dark place filled with depression and sabotage. Other times I know I'm really capable and deserving but somehow self-doubt pulls the rug from under me. 12th house has been really good for helping me develop artistic skills which need to be acquired on your own. I'm extremely good at what I do but it's taken me extra long at getting a decent job and an outlet for that ability. I think if I had a more social outward personality I'd be very successful now that I'm in my forties. 12th house energies have also aided in my ability to reflect on my life and in turn I think I understand people's problems alot better. It's also been good for me by developing spiritual and metaphysical understanding. Some time ago this topic came up and I said that the 12th house is like that scene in When Dreams May Come when the wife is in hell and Robin Williams comes to get her and she is so lost in her self-effacing attitude that she doesn't recognize the love she has in her life. I think the 12th house has that effect, but Robin Williams' role in being loving and encouraging her to see what's good also seems to come from 12th house energies as well.... maybe? IP: Logged |
Divine Goddess
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posted July 22, 2006 04:19 PM
The Sun in the 12th is an interesting placement.There at times are dangers of exiles (Physical or emotional), perhaps even a life apart from your family. Like Breakfast mentioned the time he studied in dormitry since he was 13. Since this is Neptune's house, it shows a sort of clouding image to the planets within it. The sun representing the father, or other paternal figures shows a stress between the bonds. It can also mean that in an office like situation, the native might have to face enemies due to jealousies and other causes. The 12th house is like a prison to the sun, and hence teaches us the value of true individual freedom from certain things that plague many around us. Sometime's its best for the native to live far far away from where he was born, if other factors in the chart support it ofcourse. However, the silver lining is that despite all the pressure and all the negativity the native faces, he/she shall win at the end, "Vanquishing" their enemies. Yes, Sun in the 12th natives will and always will have the last laugh. 
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sue g
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posted July 22, 2006 04:22 PM
My best friend has it in Cancer....we actually talked of this today.We are going into business together and she said how difficult she found it to promote herself even tho she knew she had the skills to put into practice.... She finds it hard to push herself forward and sell herself... Just as well I have pushy Aries on the ascendant...  A perfect blend of energies hey? IP: Logged |
i heart
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posted July 23, 2006 12:48 AM
I have Aquarius in the 12 house, right next to juipter and mercury. Im still discovering what this really means. But I can say how ever I was abandoned by my father when I was 3 mths old- and was bought up by my mother - hence we were very poor and moved around a lot, im currently living in my 42nd house and im 21 years old, I was extremly shy when I was younger and dident talk to any one other than my mother untill I was 5-6 years old, also from a young age i was very imaginative
talked to plants - trees ( and they talked back)! saw little creatures, saw visions and colours (auras..). From a young age have been really observant of people and there actions and motives. How people act towards others and society ( thats probably the aquarius)/ Also im very intuitve, can be very day dreamy - can lose myself in my head at times. Creative-which is my occupation at the momment, and feel I have a good understanding of life and people. xx IP: Logged |
jkxx
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posted July 23, 2006 03:02 AM
Not Sun, but moon,mercury, and neptune itself in the 12th, although I had a friend who had a 12th house Pisces sun. All the things that have been said seem to apply, and Kat and Divine Goddess' posts especially really ring true.For me the 12th is the most impersonal house, with everything that applies. Astro said somewhere that Neptune's message is very destructive to our ordinary everyday awareness. So the Sun being the most personal planet, can't really feel comfortable there. The Sun initiates on a personal level but the 12th asks for universal closure instead, putting the individual in second place. Overall the feeling we get is that of sacrifice as the "reward" we receive for our efforts tends to help the entire world around us but hardly ever ourselves. That's definitely something that was an issue with my Pisces friend 'cept he had mars in aries in his 1st following the sun and that could help him in times of doubt. IP: Logged |
Love
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posted July 23, 2006 04:26 AM
I have 12th house Sun, Mercury and Venus so in some ways it's hard for me to say how my 12th house Cancer Sun in particular has impacted me. My Sun and Venus (in Cancer) also both conjunct my Cancer Ascendant...I will say that I believe it has forced me (and continues) to confront ego issues. When I was little, many of those issues were about self worth. I had HUGE challenges in that regard. Also, massive chellenges brought on by betrayal at an early age. On a brighter note, the 12th house is only dark until you get a grip on what it's all about. It sort of reminds me of Saturn in a way. If you pay attention, work hard and bust a move, then you'll eventually be rewarded. It also has those Plutonian influences so it is a bit of a dark house, but ultimately regenerative and ideally transformative. I've learned to love it about 90% of the time. But I do thank heaven for my Moon in Taurus. (Sweet grounding!)
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future_uncertain
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posted July 23, 2006 09:29 AM
It's great to hear from all of you!I have sun, mars, and neptune in the twelfth in Sag... sometimes it's a hard placement for these fiery influences. I often feel like I want to bust out of my shell, but I can't, so I just watch from the sidelines. Not all the time, but sometimes that's how it feels. People accuse me of being somewhat sullen/melancholy in demeanor, although I am very often pretty goofy, too. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Does this placement give you a feeling of living in a shell, so to speak? On the bright side, I kind of like being stuck inside my own head. It helps me develop insight! IP: Logged |
Venusian Love
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posted July 23, 2006 10:08 AM
Sun in Gemini in the 12th house. When I daydream. I don't know where the hell I go. But it's certainly not on this planet.------------------
Gemini/Cancer Cusp, Cancer ascendant, Taurus moon *29, Taurus venus, Libra mars
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Things base and vile, holding no quantity,
Love can transpose to form and dignity.
Love looks not with the eye, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind. -William Shakespeare IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted July 23, 2006 10:24 AM
My youngest sister is a double cancer with her sun in the 12th house. I don't see any 12th house issues right now, but she is young afterall. Mercury is on the asc which may explain her chattiness. She also has a leonine mars which explains why she likes to put on a show for the adults. It's weird because she doesn't seem like a 12th house sun to me. But then again I was pretty impulsive when I was young too, and I have an Aries mars. My 12th house stellium (shyness and introversion) didn't seem to show up until and I was forced to repress this side of myself because of dissaproving "stares" and reproachful looks from certain adults.IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted July 23, 2006 11:37 AM
a serious former boyfriend of mine who is an aqua sun has this and he sabotages himself in life. He moves often too. It was impossible to see him and not want to mention things he was ignoring especially his relationships with women and his living situation.He can drink like a fish and that's the reason we are not together, I can't, in fact I got alcohol poisoning once when we were together, he wasn't big on compassion towards others being too wrapped up in himself. The description of the what dreams may come character is very accurate. The person married to a 12th house sun must have a dominant personality to take charge of everything going on. In his case he has a Sag former wife who drops by to look on him and the children constantly so he has that, I feel I can let go knowing he has someone. Natasha
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future_uncertain
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posted July 23, 2006 12:07 PM
st. henri,I get what you're saying about being too wrapped up in himself. I feel that way about myself sometimes. Not in the sense that I don't care about other people... I do, and I have a compulsion to penetrate the "mysteries" of others. However, I feel like I have a lot of focus on my inner self, so much so that it can be difficult for me to relate deeply with another. I get bogged down with me sometimes. Do you think this is typical of this placement? IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted July 23, 2006 12:13 PM
future_uncertain I do agree, there is also a sense of distrust of people closest or maybe it's a fear of opening up that makes a person inner focused,I know a girl with this aspect as a transit (taurus sun now in 12th house) and she is very distrustful suddenly of people. Especially of her boyfriend a virgo, who is fairly immature. She is moving back in with her grandparents to get a handle on things and she doesn't want to be alone.
I rarely see her anymore. Natasha
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Planet_Soul
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posted July 23, 2006 02:46 PM
I tend to get lost in my inner thoughts too. I go through my phases where I don't feel like interacting much. I've been more aware of the negative consequences, and am making great strides to being more focused and actively participating in whats goign on around me. IP: Logged |
Love
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posted July 23, 2006 03:17 PM
Yes...all this talk of solitude is accurate. If I'm feeling uncertain, fearful or at all vulnerable I become a total hermit and I have to remind myself to eventually rejoin the land of the living.IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion
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posted July 23, 2006 05:09 PM
On a good day, i am peaceful, calm, sympathetic, empathetic,... and sad-happy at the same time....On a bad day, scared, moody, have trouble relating to the world, just plain sad and LOST. When i'm in a bad mood, i feel terrible because the people close to me have to put up with my moodiness...  They're my hereos...
Being alone makes me feel better sometimes. Listening to soothing music, drinking a nice cup of coffee, and just reading things on astrology puts in a better mood... Eh, but i ain't feeling too good at the moment. Everything ya'll said seems to make sense... I have my Sun,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,Chiron,Juno, all in 12th. (hugs to you all) Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer IP: Logged |
Venusian Love
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posted July 23, 2006 05:12 PM
I also have my Pas Fortunae in the 12th house and my mercury and sun.All Gemini. My Pas Fortunae is on the 29th degree.
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Gemini/Cancer Cusp, Cancer ascendant, Taurus moon *29, Taurus venus, Libra mars
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Things base and vile, holding no quantity,
Love can transpose to form and dignity.
Love looks not with the eye, but with the mind,
And therefore is winged Cupid painted blind. -William Shakespeare IP: Logged |
Love
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posted July 23, 2006 08:11 PM
Many of you must already have seen this website on 12th house and karma, but for those of you with 12th house placements who have not, you will definitely find this fascinating.
http://www.dkfoundation.co.uk/BookKarmaHouse12.htm Enjoy! Love IP: Logged |
luna*tic12
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posted July 23, 2006 08:54 PM
Sun and moon in the 12th over here.
DAMN YOU, COSMOS!!!!!I get sad a lot. I feel a lasting sense of absolute loneliness. I feel that so much of me and my identity is shrouded in darkness and will never truly be revealed to Light, no matter how much I try to open myself up, there will always be something locked away. Like a dusty attic.
This placement also affects me in the way that I can be extremely selfless, even self-sacrificial.
I almost enjoy pain and suffering, because it is a place I feel comfortable in, because the feelings are so familiar to me, they are like my friends.
I'm a "dreamer". I am often confused. I have a hard time distinguishing reality and illusion.
I often feel absolutely trapped. BUT...
the 12th house has it's positive aspects too. But i'll let other people take care of that part, as I am in a rather negative mood. Goodnight, and good luck. ------------------
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Elena P
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posted July 23, 2006 11:49 PM
So familiar things...what is said above. I have Saturn, Sun, Merc, Moon in the 12 house.
Isolation: closed towns,closed enteprises,the great sympathy to people and the wish to help themIP: Logged |
luna*tic12
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posted July 24, 2006 01:34 PM
Having my sun and moon in the 12th also gives me this feeling that I am "gifted" in some way. like I have some kind of divine purpose...
[or perhaps this is my leo moon or leo rising being pompous...]
the twelfth house causes me to always seek something higher.
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future_uncertain
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posted July 24, 2006 07:46 PM
I hear that, luna*tic... sometimes I feel like I'm different/ have some sort of purpose for the people around me. I won't admit it out loud very often, though, I imagine everyone feels like they have a special purpose??(I'm thinking now of Steve Martin in "The Jerk" finding his special purpose... anyone??) Taurean_Scorpion... sad-happy! YES! I've tried so hard to explain this to people. I feel it's my natural state when alone, and it really feels quite homey. I just remembered something... a (short) poem I wrote when I was about 16. I won't be winning any prizes for this, but the verse always stuck in my head and now I see that it may have been my adolescent pov on this placement: look inside and you will se
my wicked, dark reality.
people laugh and point and stare,
i really, really like it there. Heehee, embarrassed to share this little "gem," but interesting for me to look back on...
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posted July 24, 2006 07:56 PM
I have Sun, Moon and Mercury in the 12th House which kind of conflicts with my Aquarius [in all three], but it's made me very Piscean, especially with my Pisces Rising and cusp Sun. I never identify well with Aquarius people and I don't usually get along with them.~Rebekka IP: Logged | |
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