posted July 27, 2006 12:04 PM              

I think the comments you made were very insightful but I assure you I did nothing to deserve these comments from him. I am a very easy-going, friendly person (my Libra rising I guess) I never do anything that might result in a confrontation. I do wish I had been a bit more vocal about my feelings now that I have calmed down and had time to reflect on the situation; I do miss some things about him.

My breaking the friendship was a self-protective thing, I sometimes have problems with self-esteem; if someone keeps putting me down or making me feel worthless I have a hard time not taking it personally. I suppose it does not help matters that he is my opposite sign (I'm a cappy sun) so there is perhaps naturally a lack of understanding between us...

posted July 27, 2006 02:23 PM            

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It's not really the insensitive people to watch for. It can be the overly sensitive people to watch out for.

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If you have problems with highly sensitive,emotional men, well it's not just Cancers you should avoid. You might as well as stay away from Scorpio,Pisces men too also men with moons that are challenged. After all, Moon is the emotions and how you relate well to women.

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Hey Glaucus, I just wanted to say, I love reading all your posts, you're so generous with information and knowledgable and insightful, I wanted to let you know I appreciate your presence on the board!

posted August 05, 2006 08:19 PM              

I often wonder what in my Chart makes me bite my tongue when encountering the same experience, which I TOO recently had with a Cancer dude. I mean, it didn't even get off the ground, but he had created quite an elaborate story in his head to justify it all, and I always came out to be the bad cop ... of course, he's the good cop ... This was someone I was completely open to getting to know and being a good friend to. It's like he doesn't care to take off his crapp-colored glasses, no matter how patient you try to be.

posted August 10, 2006 05:18 AM              

Well, in this situation I came NO WHERE NEAR being terrified of getting in touch with him for fear of a negative response. Think about how much sense that makes if you're trying to reach a really crabby Crab ...

I just don't believe that whatever the f*k their trip has anything to do with me. They can be just TOO FULL of their own emotions.

posted August 10, 2006 04:04 PM              

They can be really sweet and gentle, if it suits their mood. They are very much a "me" sign, but their romantic side can make it seem that being about "them" is actually being about "you".

It isn't once you are surplus to their "dream".

They are horribly addictive though at the same time, and at arm's length wonderful people, if slightly pleased with themselves.

Nobody's perfect though I suppose.

posted August 10, 2006 04:49 PM              

all i can say from my experience with cancerians is that they are too protective and tooo sensitive 'only' abt themselves..
i know quite a few and the only way to be in their good books is to give them endless amount of love,care and attention... which is not a bad thing...if ur really intrested in them.
some one here mentioned something abt saying sorry too many times gets cancerians irrateted.... how very very true .. my sorry too seems to fall upon deaf ears... wonder why?
after all love is all abt forgiving eachother isnt it??
so is it being selfish or just being protective?... this kind of behaviour surely cannot be love.

(despite of what ever i say abt crabs... deep down im still crazy abt one !)

posted August 13, 2006 02:57 PM              

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They can be really sweet and gentle, if it suits their mood. They are very much a "me" sign, but their romantic side can make it seem that being about "them" is actually being about "you".

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RIGHT ON!

posted August 13, 2006 03:17 PM              

Me November 3rd. Scorpio.

Dulce Luna

posted August 13, 2006 03:53 PM              

>>>Oh my!
So many things!

Ok....for me..To love myself and stop apologizing for my shortcomings I cannot change(disabled, etc.).
To not be a doormat.
To trust another completely, as I do with him.
To be able to take a sincere compliment without saying I do not deserve it.
To a Cancerian, when they give a compliment, they REALLY mean it! If you act all coy and embarrassed, they will think you think they had poor taste in their giving you a sincere compliment.
That he is the most intense, loving, real, honest, and caring person I have ever known.

From me I would say he has learned to love himself...for real..and be confident in just being himself.
He has learned to trust. He has also learned to not be a doormat.
He has learned to really appreciate the little treasures of life.
He also no longer fears or dreads changes and challenges(bad or good)life brings.

Each day we grow closer because we want each of us to be ourselves! We are together by choice as two unique individuals. We do not own each other. It is about sharing, caring and being real.
It is a choice not a co-dependent need.
We do not need to complete each other.
Learn together and from each other, with each other? Yeah
But not leech off each other.

One phrase I think is rather Cancerian:
Just because I am moody, does not mean you are not irritating! Alot of folks in my offline life I have seen insult a Cancerian, are indeed VERY irritating! I will take moods over irritating anyday!

posted August 13, 2006 08:00 PM              

I feel with a Cancer Mum, Grandmother, couple of exes, a lot of co-workers and Cancer friends I am pretty well qualified to say this. Plus many here in Lindaland also seem to have the same experience.

Now in LL there are ppl like yourself, my friend lovely Love, Cancerg, ooh the list goes on and on and you're all bloody lovely quite frankly.

BUT, the trend in real life that I have noticed (and feel as a 1st House Mooner) is that Crabs are very self-involved and have a "poor me" disposition or are quite mean when they feel its justified.

And thats the thing, when they feel its justified. Its more like an irritable tantrum than outright evilness, but I still see Cancers as Geminis wrapped in an emotional cloth. They confuse themselves.

Now you are perfectly right to say you can't judge everyone by one experience, and belive me thats not my style. All signs have positive and negative trends, such as my own sign Pisces being a but space cadety and a real patience-tester when it comes to things like details and responsibility. Or being 2-faced without realising it (something I've noticed in Fishes), or worse knowing it.

I think its too late to say hope I didn't cause offence, but I know how perceived criticism can reverberate right through Water. Believe me I know. Never my intention Dulce, and certainly not with a nice lady such as yourself.

posted August 13, 2006 09:13 PM              

My last crush with a Cancer was up and down because he was so fiery and fun with an Aries Moon and Leo Venus. BUT he was also trademark selfish. I was blunt, and mean and he got it. Now he at least respects my space.

That's the minimum, but it's the most I have received from a "macho" sign. (Taurus, Cancer, Leo).

So far so good, I think the last time I talked to him I told him off. Now he is understanding of my "defenses" as he calls them. (still he wants commitment)

What I never got is that a fire moon and fire venus is really into commitment.
I should have known from Pidua on our board, who is a moon in aries and venus in sag.

Cancer sun, fire moon and fire venus is a combination that energizes people. It's like standing in the sun.

posted August 13, 2006 09:32 PM            

Swerve, that was not just criticism, it was down right insulting. I mean come on, Cancers live in a bubble? Were all about us? I'm telling you right now that there is only ONE cancer that fits that negative and he's my dad. I'm sorry, but most cancers offline in that place called reality are NOT unevolved idiots. They actually do have depth. And if were vindictive its only because the person did deserve it; not that they were an oh-so innocent bystander.

And so what if were introverted? That's not the same thing as being self-centered. And yes I said "we" because it sounded like you were lumping all of us together,once again. But you know what? Its your opinion and I will agree to disagree.

posted August 13, 2006 10:26 PM              

All you need to know about Cancer men is right there. You just ask them.
In this case I am reporting back but they told me. I AM SELFISH AND NEED THE WOMAN TO BE SUBMISSIVE TO ME. That is a Cancer male speaking to ME. I am not making it up to make you water signs look bad.

So stop speaking to me as if you were five years old.

If you want to get into a snit with Swerve that's your business but I am responding to the person who started this thread, and you are interfering with ME expressing myself.

As for as water signs go I have a Cancer/8th house moon, two parents with water moons, one of which is also a Scorpio and a sister with an 8th house Sun. There's plenty of water in my life, as well as a Pisces best friend.

Try and give me my space to move about here okay?

posted August 14, 2006 11:54 AM            

Dulce was expressing her opinions. She didn't insult anybody. She was interfering with NObody. She wasn't speaking to anybody like a child. Furthermore, there is no way that she can speak on here. Speaking has to do with communications that involve voice. Therefore she is not speaking. She is communicating through typing text.

I don't appreciate people being condescending here. It's especially poor from a moderator too.

I also don't agree with the generalizations.

It's not just the sunsigns. The rest of the chart should be checked too. Also people have the free will to use their energies no matter how easy or hard they are. A person with a challenging chart can choose to be a jerk or a nice guy and the same with a person with an easy chart. Most charts are mixed any way.

Let's not be telling others off like they are children.

I feel that we should leave the generalizations to newspaper horoscopes.

BTW. I had a Cancer grandfather that loved his family. He wasn't that selfish either. He even took care of his mother in law and sister in law,and it was too overwhelming for him with his Hepatitis problems.
He has Ascendant in Scorpio and Moon in Pisces. Moon in Pisces like me. Like grandfather,like grandson.

I suggest that we stop posting to this thread. I am not coming back to this thread.

Lets treat others like we want to be treated.

posted August 14, 2006 02:55 PM              

Dulce - maybe I was too sensitive to offending your Cancerian nature, but I think I need to be a bit more direct.

I never said Cancers were idiots or unevolved. I have enough words of my own than to have them placed in my mouth for me. Then you react to what I never actually said! Odd.

Cancers are one of the 6 personal signs, which means by default that they are focused on the self. So all of a sudden I'm leaning towards half of the zodiac??? How could that be ? I was personally attacking Cancers wasn't I? No. As I said and say again now....no.

Cancers DO live in a bubble...how can that be denied? Its all part of being a water sign after all. Scorpios have their intensity (bordering on paranoia), Pisceans are lost in some other place they don't even really understand, Cancer is lost in a "shell" of self-consciousness, overwhelming compassion that threatens to engulf them and an extremely stubborn hold on reality that can lead to....over-senstivity and taking things perhaps too personally.....

Now when everyone says things like "oh, but you know you have to look at the whole chart", erm, yes quite obviously. No great insights there (sorry Glaucus). BUT, the main direction of your soul in THIS lifetime is that of a Cancerian. The lesson your soul must learn to move on is CANCERIAN. Too many times people drone on about this placement or that placement or that orb,often in an attempt to explain something the way they would like to see it.

Linda herself wrote about the Sun Signs in a whole book. What a waste of time that must have been considering there are no such things as trends among signs. Gosh, guess she should have been writing in a newspaper right?

You dismiss the bulk of Sun Signs too quickly, and its too easy to do that. Life is complex, people are complex...but the truth is always simple in it's purest form.

I really really do not have any intention of insulting you, you took that WAY too much to heart. But then you are a Cancer lol. kidding.

There are a few people on here who HATE Pisceans. HATE. If Cancers received that kind of attention I wonder how they would react. MarsConjunctMercury can sometimes seem like he's on a one-man warpath with Pisceans. But I like him and I think he's funny and whats more when he says these things I don't jump on him and get defensive I am actually intrigued as to why he has those opinions. I am interested in different interpretations of my own sign, what ways people interact and feel about them. It guides me to a fuller picture. It's great! Perhaps you might open yourself up a little like that? You don't have to agree with me. But you dismiss this too quickly.

Glaucus - you intrigue me. Very wise in most of your posts I have seen, but I have seen those who come here lavished with praise that seems to inflate their ego's and sense of self-importance on the forum.

Not only do you seek to tell a moderator how to do their job which is arrogant in the extreme, you also seek to promote yourself to the very same role.

Telling others not to continue with this thread? Did I miss your name on the initial post on this thread? Step down my man please. Lindaland doesn't need a saviour....but your mind is a great addition.

posted August 14, 2006 03:04 PM            

I was talking about common sense in regards to approaching REAL Astrology. I don't think we should generalize sunsigns. It's really prejudiced. You wouldn't do that with ethnic groups,religions,males,females,nationalities.I don't believe in stereotypes. I don't fit any myself.

Futhermore, I am not trying to be a moderator. I felt the moderator was condescending to to Dulce that she was accusing her of speaking like a child and she accused her of interfering with her when she was just expressing her opinions like all of us are doing. I was suggesting that we drop with the condescending and just get along. That's pretty much it. We shouldn't be attacking each other. Also..so what if she is a moderator, doesn't mean that she does her job right. It doesn't mean that she doesn't make mistakes. President Bush is president of USA. Do you think he does his job right? Do you think he doesn't make mistakes??

I don't give a crap what you think about me because you don't even know me.

I will defend anybody who I think is getting jumped on and being condescended to.

I have a history of Dyslexia,Dyspraxia with above average intelligence. A lot of ignorant ass people called me retard because they didn't understand my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic difficulties..especially when I was in special education for 3 yrs. I don't like condescending people. I know what it's like to be talked to like I am stupid and inferior and even being called those things. I don't want others to be treated that way. We are all human beings and we all treat each other in that way. We shouldn't be talking to people like they are children nor accuse them of acting like children.

Lets treat each other like we want to be treated.

That's what I learned the hard way from my Moon in Pisces in 6th square the opposition of Saturn in Gemini in 9th and Jupiter-Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd t-square.

Peace!

posted August 14, 2006 03:28 PM              

Stop being so over-sensitive about things that aren't happening. No-one is judging you and I dont presume to know you and never said anything to that effect.

But seeing condescention everywhere because you have faced it in your past is no excuse.

A lot of people have had troublesome pasts, maybe even worse than yours. I am triple water and I try not to take things as personally as seems to be happening here.

By the way, its not so much sarcasm as tongue in cheek because people seem to be fighting for their lives when friendly banter and an exchange of opinions will do.

I don't see much room for growth or interaction of experience with the way Dulce and you present your arguements. I love being proved wrong sometimes, its much more condusive to growth than stubborn ideas defended with wild abandon.

Also, no-one was being attacked by me, leave the saviour stuff out of it. Thats just silly. Although I guess here you were talking about Natasha more.