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Glaucus
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posted August 14, 2006 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

It's all water under the bridge. pun intended.

HUGS

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 14, 2006 07:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, Swerve, if I wrongly assumed you were referring to me. In any case, what you said stung my conscience, and I can relate to it. Whether or not you had me in mind, I consider myself guilty. Also, I'm glad you consider me a friend, but I dont see how that ought to spare me from inclusion in that group you mentioned. I've got an ego like the sun, my friend; Pluto Square Ascendant, Jupiter Angular in Leo Square Scorpio Sun/Stellium (Sun on the Midheaven - HELLO EGO!!), Op 1st house Moon, and trine Mars/Merc in Sag, etc., etc., etc.).

I also apologize if I read too much into what you wrote. I still think your diagnosis of Glaucus' motives was premature, at best, and a bit insensitively offered, but, of course, I understand the feelings, at least as well as the theories, behind your comment.

I can certainly understand the untold depths behind such a statement as "Cancers are selfish", or self-concerned, or self-conscious. And I do empathize with the experience of misunderstandings attendant upon people whose passing words often vaguely reflect their deeper, more involved considerations. But that word, "selfish", has undeniably negative connotations, and, if you are going to make such a comment, it would be prudent to give some indication of the mitigating circumstances surrounding your own interpretation of that "selfishness" (which I found very impressive, btw, and was happy to be privy to). We cannot read your mind, and this is certainly a complex matter, and very worthy of exposition. I would suggest that, if you do not wish to go into your philosophy that deeply, you ought not to make comments which are bound to be misleading (on the surface), in the first place. If you are puzzled as to why you are nearly unanimously misunderstood, I would suggest that this is the very likely reason why.

Also, I agree that the sign of Pisces is more evolved than the sign of Scorpio, but I would beg to differ with anyone who supposed that, just because someone was born under the sign of Pisces, they are automatically more evolved, in any sense. I think many things come into play, and we know far too little about it to say anything definitively. For all we know, a person spends lifetimes born under all the signs, and then repeats them, over and over again (and the true level of evolution is suggested, not by the sign, but by how skilled one is in making use of it). "Nobody knows where you are, how near or how far,". Just from my brief studies in karmic astrology, I find it impossible to distinguish what might incline us to assume that a Sun Piscean is more evolved than, say, a person with Moon in Pisces, or Neptune in dynamic aspect to the Moon, or, a Pisces South Node (given the fact that the Moon and its Nodes are linked more directly, in interpretations, to past lives, and perceptions which have already become habitual, - while the Sun, including the aspects it makes, is more often interpreted as a new vibration, to be grown into in the present incarnation). The Cayce readings, for one, suggest that the planets have far more influence than the signs, so, when considering how Neptunian a person is, I will look at least as quickly to the position and aspects made to Neptune, as to any signs or points found in the sign of Pisces. The most saintly, humble, mystical, Neptunian person I ever met was a Leo. I couldnt understand it, till I saw his chart. Moon in the 12th, and Neptune trine the Sun and Mercury, and just minutes from the Ascendant! He had exactly no planets in Pisces.


Affectionately,
HSC

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Swerve
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posted August 14, 2006 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem old friend.

I have Neptune in Sagitarrius in the First sitting next to my Moon in Scorpio and Ascendant lol Also True Node in Scorpio in the 12th!

So, hopefully your theory holds up. Don't take any more offense, I'm tired of explanation.

I know many many unevolved Pisceans...

I appreciate your reply.

Swerve

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Heart--Shaped Cross
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posted August 14, 2006 08:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow!, that's one watery 1st house.

I hadn't taken any more offense, really.
I was just explaining my initial impressions,
and discussing some additional points of apparent disagreement.


take care Swerve,
HSC

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cancerrg
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posted August 16, 2006 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
::::maybe I should use the word macho instead of trademark but Cancer men are selfish in a macho traditional way with women. Have you dated many? Why don't you go find yourself a few relationships and compare? I don't mean to sound Virgo Snippy but you are not a Cancer male and so don't understand what they need. if one tells me what he needs then that's the truth.:::::


NATASHA , are you explaining it a bit more ?
specially this part ,"but Cancer men are selfish in a macho traditional way with women"


and yeah swerve , good advice for from hsc !
"cancers are not selfish " period!

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scorplover
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posted August 16, 2006 06:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
guys guys guys!! jeepers. i thought this thread had finished, but came on to find all this arguing - amazing. since i started this thread, i am back!!! now i have something new to say!!
although i started this thread, referring about my previous boyf, if you can call him that, amazingly this weekend i met another cancerian man. boy oh boy, what a difference!! okay, i know i only just met him, but it seemed to me he was: genuinely cute and attentive and appreciative, he was emotional - he told me so, we were together all weekend the first time we met!!!! and it was wonderful. i am seeing him again next weekend and really looking forward to it. he seemed like a lovely, stable cancer, as opposed to my previous one who was very very selfish, self centred, self pitying (on the bad side i must emphasise). but then he had a horrible childhood - everyone is made up of their past experiences as well. anyway i shall update you after the weekend!!! fingers crossed it goes well. and come on you sensitive ones, we love you that's why we're interested in you and on this thread at all!!!!

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fayte.m
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posted August 16, 2006 10:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cancer men are selfish in a macho traditional way with women


>>>??????????????????????????????????????
Macho?????? Selfish macho????????????????
I never met one imrl yet like that.

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cancerrg
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posted August 16, 2006 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FINGERS CROSSED ! SCORP!

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sue g
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posted August 16, 2006 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only one i met remotely like that has Aries rising....lovely gentle guy but BIG women issues...compares his partners to his mammy....

He is very childish...and no woman will stay with him..

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SavageScorpio
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posted August 16, 2006 05:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What I know of Cancer people is that they're not usually selfish. Cancer is probably one of the most giving signs (whereas Leo is generous)... Cancer is extremely protective/loving/caring, family oriented. Hardly selfish! A lot depends on the placement of the persons mars/moon.

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WaterNymph
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posted August 16, 2006 07:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m sorry you had to deal with that.

The best ones often have very “detached” moons...cools them down.

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It's not really the insensitive people to watch for. It can be the overly sensitive people to watch out for.

That is SO true.

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 16, 2006 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorplover, can you give us his placements? And maybe yours too?

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cancerrg
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posted August 17, 2006 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cancerrg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
::::The only one i met remotely like that has Aries rising....lovely gentle guy but BIG women issues...compares his partners to his mammy....
He is very childish...and no woman will stay with him..

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you make me a worried man , sue !
i have the same placements .

and the biggest worry is your prediction about women . i really can't be without them .

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scorplover
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posted August 21, 2006 11:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi dulce luna. yes the placements are:
his 01/07/06
me 11/11/71
how is that??

thanks!

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GoingDutch
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posted November 01, 2014 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoingDutch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm quite new to astrology stuff, I don't really go check my co-worker or friends driver liscense to make sure what signs they are.
But now as I start apply astrology sign to my friends B-Day, it turn out I actually know a Cancer man quite well.

Now my rant.... my experience being friend with a Cancer male.
Dear God, please don't let me married to one, I rather stay single and died as an old woman than to married to a Cancer like this dude.

He is a beep LIAR, he can look at you straight in the eyes and LIE through his teeth, big time manipulator, even MORE than Libra. I thought Libra was 'master in manipulating', but maaan, I was wrong.

This Cancer guy, you can't even be his friend without him causing all the dramas into your life and others life. Whether at work, or at home, he can lies through his teeth.

I heard Cancer men are good husband, blah blah, well I don't care, just No, I can't do it. I rather go married to a thug, this might sound offensive, but suck it up alright. No offense to all the good cancer men out there.

I never know a man who can LIE as much as this Cancer dude. and I hate liars and those who cause drama.

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Brendan34
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posted March 13, 2015 04:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brendan34     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glaucus:

You have to remember that sensitivity means responsivenes or reaction to external stimuli.

It doesn't mean nice,consideration,and kindness.

A highly sensitive person can mean,cruel,and sadistic.

A lot of them can be very insecure and take out their issues on people.

A lot of highly sensitive people can be mentally ill and be escapists thru drugs and alcohol. some can be upset easily by things and easily feel victimized. They can be overwhelmed by impressions in the environment and can shut down.

It really depends on how a person uses their high sensitivity.

The thing is to control your high sensitivity. Don't let the high sensitivity control you.

It's not really the insensitive people to watch for. It can be the overly sensitive people to watch out for.

A lot of highly sensitive people can be passionate intense. Scorpio is a sign that is associated with high sensitivity,intensity,and passion being a watersign ruled by Mars and Pluto.

I was verbally and physically abused by my mother,and she's definitely highly sensitive.

She has Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio. She has Sun in 12th trine Neptune which is also indicates that she's ultrasensitive.


My father had problems with drugs,and so I never knew him. He was very insecure man who had speech problems and was awkward. He was usually an unusually goodnatured person, but when he lost his temper,he was dangerous. He hit my mom out of jealousy onetime when I was 8 months old. He was a black man born in New Orleans,Louisiana. Therefore,he didn't have an easy life. He was born in 1941. Blacks didn't have civil rights in those days.

He had Moon in Pisces like me and stationary retrograde Neptune. Both are indicators of ultrasensitivity.


You can't really judge a person's sensitivity by their actions nor appearances. Sensitivity is more about feeling and not expression nor looks.


This is an excellent post....you provide great insight and articulate many thoughts I had on this matter about highly sensitive people.

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