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Love
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posted August 06, 2006 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so now I know what Out of Bounds Planets are ( http://www.mandala.be/declination/pamela.htm) and therefore I was toodling around on astro.com glancing through the charts of friends family and others when I discovered that, including myself, a large percentage of people who I am close to have these out of bounds planets. In some cases, they have two.

Out of 36 people, 16 of them had 1 OOB planet and 4 of them had 2.

Is this normal? I suppose it must be, but I was surprised at the number of people I know whose planets are waaaayyy out there.

Who here has at least one OOB planet and what sign and house is it located in?

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hot_ice
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posted August 06, 2006 08:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont think I understand this...soooo if a planet is above the 23 degree mark of any sign,it's called an out of bound planet??

If that is the case,for me it's the sun...28,in gemini in the 8th house...

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alanabelle86
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posted August 06, 2006 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, my Mercury is 26 degrees in Scorpio...2nd house.

What does an "out of bound" planet mean? influence wise?

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hvnlystarz
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posted August 06, 2006 10:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
out of bounds degrees are the declination degrees, not the degree of your actual planet in your chart.

for example- i have mercury at 15 degrees 54 seconds of cancer- but it is in declination of 24 degrees 24 seconds north. if you have kepler astrology software it will show the declination on the lower right hand side of the chart wheel.

i have never heard of this theory- it's interesting though! i don't feel that i have any issues with the expression of my mercury. so i wonder if there are other things it could mean.

i also have ceres and pallas in declination- which makes more sense as i do have a pull between being nurturing/mothering and being independent and autonomous. athena is an archetype that is prominent in my chart- but so is ceres (i am a cancer after all!).

thanks for the welcome libraschoice

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Almost An Angel
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posted August 06, 2006 11:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Venus, Mars, and Moon are out of bounds.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 06, 2006 01:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What other way can you determine declination if you don't have the Kepler software? Is there an ephemeris online that has deeclination?

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Glaucus
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posted August 06, 2006 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

astro.com calculates declinations

My mother has out of bounds Mars, and she does have a temper that gets out of control. She has major anger issues,and she has been physically abusive to me when I was growing up. I thought that it was the Scorpio Moon square Pluto, but I really believe the out of bounds Mars put more emphasis on it.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 06, 2006 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Glaucus, but that's not very helpful. It is a hidden feature on astro.com and either I did not know how to access it correctly, or I do not have access it from some reason (I'm registered there, but as a free user). All I can get as far as declinations is for current planet transits.

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posted August 06, 2006 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think that it might be because you are free user.

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posted August 06, 2006 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can download Astrolog program. That calculates declinations. Riyal astrology software does too. Both programs are free.

I use professional astrology software,Solar Fire to check declinations. I use professional astrology software,Kepler to calculate declination midpoint configurations.

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posted August 06, 2006 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! I've talked about this with my local astrology group and I found it to be so neat.

The OOB planet gives a maverick appeal and really pushes out the planet nature. This goes by the planet's declination in the chart - and yes astro.com does have this. If you have 2 OOB planets and both are in the north and a degree off it would be like a conjunction and if the planets were the same degree but one was north and the other south it would like an opposition in the chart. Stuff like this can stand out and have an effect on the chart.

I think the premeire of my province has an OOB Uranus and he is known for his originality. Nobody can touch him.

Myself I think I have an OOB moon and Mars. Moon has a 23.30 N degree declination and my Mars has a 23.19 S declination. I know it's the past 23 degrees mark but not sure of the minute. In essence according to this I have a Moon - Mars opposition. In my own chart they are opposite by sign but not is aspect with each other - the orb is too wide.

My exbf from the winter has an OOB Cancer Moon and he seemed more Cancerian like than Aquarian. Very clingy and needy he was and always needs to be with a person with no breaks....

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alanabelle86
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posted August 06, 2006 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOOOH, I see


My Moon, Venus, and Uranus are OOB Planets

Moon in 10th
Venus in 1st
Uranus in 2nd

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 06, 2006 04:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Glaucus. I'm a part time teacher who's in training to be fully certified, so I can't afford $200 software packages right now. Maybe once I'm working full time again and not paying tuition for my teacher's training anymore.

Anyhow, it appears I personally don't have anything OOB, which fine by me. I've got enough things to worry about with my chart.

I pulled up Elliott Smith's chart - I'm a huge fan of his, and I've been studying his chart for a while. Elliott had some pretty exceptional skills and talent as a guitarist and songwriter. I noticed that his Pallas is way, way OOB, at +42, while he has nothing else OOB. Pretty interesting.

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Gem-Sag
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posted August 06, 2006 05:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So in my natal chart I have:
sun opposition mooon
sun conjunction venus and
moon opposition venus
and I checked my declinations and I found:
Sun 23.13 N
Moon 24.17 S
Venus 23.17 N
So would these planets intensify the aspects that I already have?, because I know I defenetly feel these aspects!

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Love
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posted August 07, 2006 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Love     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I guess I should have actually written down what the definition for OOB planets actually is...NOT the degrees of the planet but instead the declination. And as far as I have researched, I am not positive if the asteroids are included or not. If they are then I have way more OOB planets than I thought!

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Cassy
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posted August 07, 2006 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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joyrjw
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posted December 28, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have one... Sidereal Venus in Sagittarius 25S26 declination 7th house (conjunct descendant sagittarius) out of bounds

I find that this description fits me.
I love beautiful things and beautiful places. It doesn't even have to be expensive.

Venus out of bounds

Planets are "out of bounds" when they achieve a declination greater than the maximum declination of the ecliptic (23N28 or 23S28).

Out of bounds planets are said to be beyond the limit, "beyond the norm", beyond expectations,... Out of bounds planets represent something EXCEPTIONAL and the greater the declination, the greater the extraordinary influences.

When Venus, planet of love, beauty and harmony is out of bounds, there is a huge need to live in a harmonious and beautiful environment without arguments and disputes.

In male charts we have observed that they almost exclusively have been married to extremely gorgeous and highly attractive women. These men prefer exquisite and EXCEPTIONAL beauties.

In female charts the love life is often very overwhelming and obsessive (at times self-destructive too). In almost all instances the woman is an extraordinary beauty.
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/venus-in-the-horoscope.html#2

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ash
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posted December 30, 2010 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok let see if ive got this rite... i checked my declinations thru www.astro.com & d results are...

My Sun 23°26' 4" S
My Venus 23°14'28" S
My Rx Jup 23°10'43" N

Am rite to say i av 3 OOB planets? ... Please correct me if im wrong, im still learning...thanks...

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annaf
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posted December 30, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for annaf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ash,

From what I read a planet is only out of bounds when its declination is greater than 23 degrees and 27 minutes north or south. So I would think none of your planets are out of bounds. Here is a link to another old Lindaland thread discussing out of bounds planets in natal charts. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/019165.html

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ash
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posted January 02, 2011 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Annaf ive learned a new thing today... happy new year...

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posted January 02, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Out of Bounds Moon
http://www.forrestastrology.com/General-Astrology/the-out-of-bounds-moon

THE OUT-OF-BOUNDS MOON

"What does it mean astrologcally for the Moon to be Out of Bounds? Start with one merrily anarchic notion: when the Moon’s declination exceeds 23E28' North or 23E28' South, it has escaped the physical space dominated by the gravitational “boss” of the solar system, the Sun.

Let the metaphors free-associate.

The Moon is then, in other words, out of the King’s sight. No longer under Daddy’s thumb. We might say that has moved beyond the Pale. Gone out of control. Or gone wild. It has broken the rules. It has shattered the boundaries, broken the mold, crossed the Rubicon. Bravely, or drunkenly, the Moon has said, “Roll the dice.”

The Out of Bounds Moon is spontaneous, emancipated, liberated, released in its own recognizance, and utterly on its own. It has loudly proclaimed, “You can take this job (. . . marriage, church, obligation, moral principle, town, duty . . .) and shove it.” The Moon has claimed its genius, its passion, and its right to be itself. No need to obfuscate, to be diplomatic, or to lie to anyone anymore—unless you feel like it. No more coprophagious grin. No need to worry about staying in anyone’s good graces. Out of Bounds, the Moon no longer plays the game. It rejects all rules that are not of its own making. “Free at last, free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are finally free at last!,” said Martin Luther King, Jr.

The words stir the blood. But we need to let them stir the mind as well.

Structure, discipline, and a world in which our actions have consequences—these are not purely negative things. Society and its values can have a steadying effect upon us, even when we feel frustrated by them. The Out of Bounds Moon, like everything else in astrology, has an unpleasant, dangerous side as well as a divine purpose. Its dark side is sociopathic, even criminal—or merely selfish and insensitive to others. It can be cold, even inhuman.

You may detect some of the underlying spirit of the planet Uranus and the sign Aquarius in these words. That is quite accurate. In my experience, an Out of Bounds Moon has distinctly Aquarian quality. We see the familiar Uranian “holy trinity” at work—the Genius, the Revolutionary and the Criminal. All three of them stand outside the normal structure of society, applying leverage to it—and meeting resistance, condemnation, and consequences for it.

As with Aquarian or Uranian influences, the Out of Bounds Moon often thrusts alienating circumstances upon a person from outside. This is of course the classic working of synchronicity—what we meet (or fail to face) in our inner world is encountered in the “random” realities of our outer lives.

Inwardly, the Out of Bounds Moon often correlates with feelings of being an outsider, of not fitting in, of not having a place in this world. This can be painful—and it can also lead to an attitude of not giving a damn. Or to passivity. Or to resentment. And to radical forms of existential creativity."


This site mentions the difference between a Moon being out of bounds N or S.
http://globalpsychics.com/enlightening-you/astrology/out-of-bounds-moon.shtml

"When the Moon is Out of Bounds South we may experience emotional challenges relating to any area of life where we are being blocked or where we are hiding something from ourselves. Long held secrets may be revealed - intentionally or inadvertently - when the Moon is Out of Bounds.

When the waxing Moon is “riding low” our inner world is illuminated and the unconscious is energized so individual, group, and global patterns of thought are brought to awareness and may be reformulated.

When the Moon goes Out of Bounds North (N) the Moon (and we) enter “the higher world” where new ideas are more easily and successfully shared."


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posted January 06, 2011 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
waaaait... I do have of out boundaries planet... It's Uranus awesomeness

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posted October 04, 2012 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soo it turns out that HIS capricorn Venus as unaspected natally is out of bounds too. I really have hard time reading this man, I am so in love with.
We met when tr. pluto conjunct his venus and my vertex.

Any help?

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posted October 12, 2012 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CRCRINCON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have out of bounds Eros at 35...bow chicka wow wow...It is in Taurus in my 5th. But is unaspected by major planets other then other asteroids.
http://falconastrology.com/oob.html

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