posted September 30, 2006 01:05 AM              

I was wondering if a person is affected by the following sign on the cusp of their second house if their ascendant is in the last 5 degrees of the sign.

For example my ascendant is on the 26th degree of Gemini, with Cancer on the second house cusp.

Another example is found in the chart of the legendary Cary Grant. According to Astro.com
His ascendant is in Libra at 28° However in some programs (like Astrotheme)his ascendant is in 00 degrees Scorpio. So, would one say that someone with a similar chart would generally have a traits of Libra coupled with Scorpio??

posted September 30, 2006 02:23 PM              

I love Cancers! Most of them, in synastry, do fall in my 1st house. Plus I hae a 4th house Sun.

posted September 30, 2006 02:35 PM            

me too..i have it 29 degrees gemini, like hexxie..

gonna go check out Elbert Wade's website about the 3rd decanate, thanks

posted September 30, 2006 04:34 PM              

That is interesting that you say that about getting into relationships that are doomed. I guess, techinically I do not qualify since I am only 4 not 3 degrees from having a Cancer influence, I do nonetheless find myself attracted to those who are appear to be opposite from me. So those opposite traits that attract repel at the same time-it hardly ever works out. Usually these people are either older, more "mature" and easily less animated than I am.

Hexxie-
I would imagine that you however, definately feel that Cancer influence-you practcally have a Cancer Asc! Have you read what Wade has to say? Do you think it applies to you?

posted October 04, 2006 01:49 AM              

Maybe this is the effect of having an "on Cusp" Ascendant. It's hazy, or something.

As time goes on, I can notice the Taurus & Gemini effects on my Ascendant more and more, like I'm becoming more like those than the other interpretions.

posted October 06, 2006 08:11 AM            

depends. the sign on the asc is IT. its ruler becomes imp, etc) but

my Asc is at 25AQUA, and the 1st house ends at 16ARI - intercepting the whole Pis in my first. some ppl think i'm a pis, and some other times I even exhibit some aries traits. I do read horoscopes (monthly and yearly) for pis - cos it's accurate (my 2nd is Ari, 3rd tau, etc)

so: how much of the other sign falls into you 1st? there cannot be a rule, but anything less than half a sign shouldn't matter. if more, you get more choices of behaviors. maybe you adjust to situations and ppl

posted August 01, 2015 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by geminirising26:
Hi All!

I was wondering if a person is affected by the following sign on the cusp of their second house if their ascendant is in the last 5 degrees of the sign.

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Yes. Think of it this way ... The entire 1st house represents the persona as it is embodied in the form of a human being. If we take each house as averaging 30 degrees, and you see that a confirmed accurate chart has 29 degrees Virgo on the Asc, you know the other 29 degrees of that 1st house will be in Libra. Too much to ignore, isn't it?

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For example my ascendant is on the 26th degree of Gemini, with Cancer on the second house cusp.

Another example is found in the chart of the legendary Cary Grant. According to Astro.com
His ascendant is in Libra at 28° However in some programs (like Astrotheme)his ascendant is in 00 degrees Scorpio. So, would one say that someone with a similar chart would generally have a traits of Libra coupled with Scorpio??

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Astrotheme has updated his chart to match that showed at ADB. Astrotheme is a follower, not a leader on these things. Notice, however, that this is a B-rated time quote from Grant's biography. No source document or other person is quoted, leaving it with minimal authority. However, if you check the transits for his first marriage (10 Feb 1934, to Virginia Cherrill), you will see quite clearly that 24 Libra is indicated: Jupiter 23 Libra; Pluto 23 Cancer; Uranus 24 Aries, just into the 7th house of partnership. So past about 3 degrees maximum there isn't really this 'cusp' relationship on the Asc.

I can state what the principles are which apply hypothetically to individual's charts as described here. The problem is that most charts are not as accurate on the Asc as people assume. Therefore a quick survey of one's own chart and those close to them will reveal nothing on the matter.

saggyscorp, your story shows your self awareness regarding your personality seen against the backdrop of the rising sign of your chart. Most often, when there is doubt or when there is little or no identification with the rising sign suggested by the given birth time, it is the previous rising sign where the correct Asc will be found. For some, it will be just over into the following rising sign (for some whose b.t. suggests Asc past 20* or so of a sign).

The exact Asc degree of your correct birth horoscope is verifiable, because anything that can be asserted relative to facts and human beings or human's doings CAN be tested. I do it all the time.

posted July 22, 2017 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Astrotheme has updated his chart to match that showed at ADB. Astrotheme is a follower, not a leader on these things. Notice, however, that this is a B-rated time quote from Grant's biography. No source document or other person is quoted, leaving it with minimal authority. However, if you check the transits for his first marriage (10 Feb 1934, to Virginia Cherrill), you will see quite clearly that 24 Libra is indicated: Jupiter 23 Libra; Pluto 23 Cancer; Uranus 24 Aries, just into the 7th house of partnership. So past about 3 degrees maximum there isn't really this 'cusp' relationship on the Asc.

I can state what the principles are which apply hypothetically to individual's charts as described here. The problem is that most charts are not as accurate on the Asc as people assume. Therefore a quick survey of one's own chart and those close to them will reveal nothing on the matter.

[b]saggyscorp, your story shows your self awareness regarding your personality seen against the backdrop of the rising sign of your chart. Most often, when there is doubt or when there is little or no identification with the rising sign suggested by the given birth time, it is the previous rising sign where the correct Asc will be found. For some, it will be just over into the following rising sign (for some whose b.t. suggests Asc past 20* or so of a sign).

The exact Asc degree of your correct birth horoscope is verifiable, because anything that can be asserted relative to facts and human beings or human's doings CAN be tested. I do it all the time.

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"Cusps" are around 28 and 29 degrees of the sign, while early degrees are purely that sign (the first 10 degrees of Gemini is the Gemini decanate for example). My best friend's mom is a Sagittarius at 27 degrees, and is very obviously a Sagittarius in the way she acts, even with her Moon and Venus in Capricorn (for outer planets she has Pluto at 1 degree Libra and is NOTHING like a Virgo Pluto in any way, and same for my cousin with 27 degrees Libra, as I never felt any Pluto in Scorpio in her). One of my high school classmates is a Taurus at 0 degrees, and has all the Taurus traits, especially the love of the "good life", and one of my college professors is a Leo at 0 degrees and has all the Leo traits, even with Venus in Cancer. A reference:
http://www.astrologyetal.com/changing.html

posted August 02, 2017 05:35 AM            

Gemini loves to express itself ime with puns,clever qoutes mimicry and the like. Comic relief is usually their forte.

If Mercury opp the Asc , they may be self conscious about expressing themselves. Saturn in opp to Asc may also have them be self critical or shy -seeking approval from others(usually older /"wiser" than they are)

I find that afflictions or conjunctions to the Asc can modify the expression.

Opp from Pluto has one be fearful/suspicious. Usually fearing being taken advantage of or being bullied. Detest any form of control or size intimidation.

The square from Pluto has one become touchy & respond defensively towards criticism. These guys can become the fire starters

The conjunction to Pluto is the empowered one ,she who feels invincible. Can be very intimidating and can bulldoze over others.