posted October 27, 2006 09:14 PM            

Glaucus ~

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We get mistakened for not paying attention when we really are when we are just overloaded,confused,and don't remember auditory information. It often accompanies with hearing that is more sensitive than the average person.

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Star, it used to be nearly impossible to take my child to a restaurant for a meal -- he could not sit still. Once I learned that it wasn't willful misbehavior and was something he couldn't control, we worked with it (at that age, multiple distractions were key). Have you ever played a game of "blow the crayons across the table -- you score if it falls off the edge of the table before your opponent can blow it back!!"

And absolutely, the prickly-socks-seam thing drives my boy nuts!! Yet he can walk barefoot across at least a dozen items of dirty clothes strewn across his bedroom floor without blinking (or even seeing them!!)

Glaucus is right-on about being left-brained in a right-brained world..... the issue is our responsibility as parents: how far do we go in preparing them to get an education and a good job vs. encouraging their self-expression and unique ways of learning?? There is *always* a balance to be found, and it's individual with each child. I have run across people who were outraged that I made the decision to "throw pills at my child instead of doing hands-on parenting." In my son's case, his focus improves to an incredible degree -- for him it works. He likes school, loves science and reading. No amount of "behavioral modification strategies" can replace his prescription. For some reason, amphetamines work the opposite on the brain-wiring of some kids, and calm the agitation enough to allow them to learn, adapt, create.

I am lucky in that my son's school district has always had an IEP for him, actively participates and guides his special education courses, and makes resources available to me and the other Autistic-Spectrum parents.

posted October 29, 2006 12:10 PM            

I have to tell you that Stargazer's son reminds me a lot of myself. I am not Aspergers,NLD

I have a history of poor eye contact. A lot of that has to do with a combination of shyness and coordination. Like some people can't walk and chew gum at the same time. That's the same with me. I have problems looking at people and they talking to me at the same time.

Dyspraxics have sensory integration issues and not just coordination issues. They are very connected.

Also..poor writing is not necessarily Aspergers nor NLD. Dyslexics can have poor writing and so can Dypraxics. Poor writing is often called Dysgraphia.

The hallmark of Aspergers is poor ability for understanding social and emotional cues.
My mother told me that when I was a baby, she would give me a certain luck when I was doing something that I shouldn't be doing and I would stop dead in my tracks. That's definitely not a sign of having poor emotional/social cues. I am very socially,emotionally perceptive. I am even have a history of being hypersensitive to emotional cues whether it's gestures,facial expressions,tone of voice. If people gave me an angry look, I get very angry. If people talking in a mean tone, I get very irritated. If people come up close to me when they are very angry, I get very angry and I am in super defense mode thinking that I am going to get hit. I am also very expressive when it comes to emotions. I can use facial expressions very easily to get my emotions accross. I use hand gestures a lot when communicating. I am very expressive emotionally and not just very responsive to emotional/social cues. I have a history of writing poetry which included emotional expression,and people told me that I was very good at it and even talented. I express my feelings well in letters too. I have history of poor eye contact due to coordination,sensory integration issues. I am also very shy too,and that has to do with my poor eye contact.

I am hypersensitive to external stimuli too. When people touch me, I can get very jumpy. I am hypervigilant. I am very ticklish all over. I am highly sensitive in every way. I have to wear dark lenses outside because sunlight bothers me...I would tend to make my eyes like slits to avoid sunlight. I am very sensitive to temperatures(both cold and heat). Medications give me strong side effects like a trial dosage of Effexor made me temporarily impotent.

I don't think that I seen anything that Stargazer said that suggests her son has Aspergers nor NLD.

People with ADHD can have problems with instructions. Dyspraxics and Dyslexics can too because of sequence issues. I have problems with sequence. I am not a step by step learning type of person. I am a global learner.

I am very clumsy and awkward. Dyspraxics are clumsy and awkward. Dyspraxia was known as clumsy child syndrome. It is a developmental coordination disorder. Clumsiness and awkwardness is typical of Dyspraxia. Problems with fine and gross motor skills is typical of Dyspraxia. Problems with sequencing is typical of Dyspraxia. Problems with memory and organizing thoughts are typical of Dyspraxia. Speech and auditory processing problems can be connected to Dyspraxia and not just Dyslexia.

I am not a concrete thinker. From what she said about her son, he doesn't seem like a concrete thinker.....especially his thinking outside the box and coming up with ideas.

When I was 10 yrs old, I had spray paint on my hands,and I was afraid to go in the house. I ended up rubbing my hands with mud. I got the paint off. I showed my friend who had paint on her hands too. I showed her what I did. She did it too,and she was getting the paint of her hands,and she called me a "genius"

I have sensory integration issues and a lot what the boy has,and I am definitely not Aspergers. I even have strong obsessive traits and can be fixed one topic. People with ADHD can hyperfocus and forget about everything else. I definitely can.

posted October 29, 2006 12:23 PM            

(Clumsy Child Syndrome/ Percepto-motor dysfunction)

Minimal brain dysfunction; learning difficulty; developmental co-ordination disorder

STUPID, CLUMSY, AWKWARD, DOESN'T TRY, DISRUPTIVE, OVER EMOTIONAL !

Does this sound familiar? Is this the message coming back from your child's school?

This is how my son's teachers described him at his former school. Because of his problem he was marginalised and bullied, and the teachers' stood by and watched it happen! I was eventually forced to withdraw him from school after he had been seriously assaulted in front of one of the school staff (who did nothing to stop it) and came home badly bruised and bleeding. The head teacher dismissed my complaint.

Because I had withdrawn my son from school the Local Education Authority (LEA) refused to provide a suitable school for him, so I had to educate him at home. This situation continued for nearly 3 years. With the help of the local Centre for Integrated Living (CIL), advice from other organisations and a change in the LEA personnel, my son is now in a suitable school.

My son suffers from DYSPRAXIA!

A Brief History of Dyspraxia

The term "dyspraxia" derives from the Greek word "praxis" which means "doing, acting, deed or practice". Practice includes both knowing what to do and how to do it, so dyspraxic children have problems with integrating the thought with the action in order to carry out a task. As a result of this dyspraxic children may often show signs of frustration.

In 1937 dyspraxia was documented using the term "congenital maladroitness". It was recognised that disorders of the actual doing of a task (praxis) resulted in clumsiness. These children were called "Clumsy Children" and dyspraxia was known as "Clumsy Child Syndrome". In the USA it was first given recognition through the work of Strauss and Lehitinen in 1947.

Although the condition has been recognised (under various names) for over 60 years many (professional as well as lay) people have little or no knowledge of the syndrome.

While the cause of dyspraxia is not known, common factors include that most were either born prematurely or two weeks past their due date. In some cases another family member may suffer from dyspraxia, dyslexia or another related condition.

In the United Kingdom it has been estimated that 1 in 20 schoolchildren suffer from the syndrome which affects organisational, motor and language skills and that children with dyspraxia may also have related disorders (in varying degrees) such a autism, dyslexia and/or attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

If you consider that your child may be dyspraxic do not struggle along without help. At the end of this article is a list of links and addresses of helplines (including some telephone numbers) and organisations that provide advice for parents and carers of children with disabilities.

Treatment is generally carried out through occupational therapy exercises, the focus of which is to teach the child how their body works, and the skills that they find difficult. These (O.T.) exercises have to be continued at home after the period of treatment has finished, and, although not a cure, help the child overcome many of the problems resulting from the syndrome.

Above all, remember that your child's clumsiness (dyspraxia) does not mean that he or she is stupid - many dyspraxic children are of above average intelligence.

SYMPTOMS

Symptoms of dyspraxia can include:

not feeding properly

irritability and sleeping badly

May be late in reaching milestones such as sitting, crawling (many never crawl) standing, walking, hopping, jumping

Poor writing/drawing abilities

Inability to keep still

Short attention span

Disorganised (has difficulty in planning activities)

Difficulty in carrying out complex instructions

Frequently falls or bumps into things

Overly trusting and little or no sense of danger

Messy eater, spills things

Difficulty/slowness with dressing, tying shoes

This is not a comprehensive list. Dyspraxic children may suffer in varying degrees, and do not necessarily exhibit all the symptoms.

If you are worried about your child's development, ensure that your General Practitioner (family doctor) knows of your concerns, and your reasoning behind those concerns. If necessary write down the symptoms/problems that your child is experiencing and give a copy of the list to your doctor. Ask for a referral to a specialist (child development) pædiatrician. General Practitioners' (family doctors') are there to treat common disorders and act as a filter for specialist medical personnel (consultants).

Parents are most likely to consider that their child might be dyspraxic (or that there is "something wrong") and in a survey carried out by the Dyspraxia Foundation in the United Kingdom only 9.4% of teachers and 1.8% of General Practitioners (family doctors) are likely to consider this diagnosis.

Diagnosis of dyspraxia is most often made by a pædiatrician. General Practitioners' do not usually make this diagnosis.

Approximately 25% of dyspraxic children are recognised when they start school. This has serious implications on the outcome of their education, especially with regard to the attitude many schools have towards dyspraxic children. This is of great concern as:

Many schools think that in 80% of cases children will grow out of it.

75.5% of teachers think that dyspraxic children are lazy and could try harder when, in fact, dyspraxic children have to work much harder than non-dyspraxic children to complete tasks, especially those (tasks) requiring co-ordination!

Over 50% of schools think that (dyspraxic) children are naughty or disruptive

posted October 29, 2006 12:48 PM            

from Mayo Clinic.

Signs and symptoms

Dyslexia can be difficult to recognize before your child enters school, but some early clues may indicate a problem. If your young child begins talking late, adds new words slowly and has difficulty rhyming, he or she may be at increased risk of dyslexia.

Once your child is in school, signs and symptoms of dyslexia may become more apparent, including:

* The inability to recognize words and letters on a printed page
* A reading ability level well below the expected level for the age of your child

Children with dyslexia commonly have problems processing and understanding what they hear. They may have difficulty comprehending rapid instructions, following more than one command at a time or remembering the sequence of things. Reversals of letters (b for d) and a reversal of words (saw for was) are typical among children who have dyslexia. Reversals are common for children age 6 and younger who don't have dyslexia. But with dyslexia, the reversals persist.

Children with dyslexia may also try to read from right to left, may fail to see (and occasionally to hear) similarities and differences in letters and words, may not recognize the spacing that organizes letters into separate words, and may be unable to sound out the pronunciation of an unfamiliar word.

Complications

Your child's inability to read well may not affect achievement in other school subjects, such as arithmetic. However, because reading is a skill basic to most other school subjects, a child who has dyslexia is at a great disadvantage in most classes and may have trouble learning.

Left untreated, dyslexia may lead to low self-esteem, behavioral problems, delinquency, aggression, and withdrawal or alienation from friends, parents and teachers. The degree to which these problems develop may relate to the severity of the condition. Some children have a relatively mild form of dyslexia, but others have a more severe form.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dyslexia/DS00224/DSECTION=2

beware of the behavioral issues that Dyslexics might have. These can get mistaken for disorders like Bipolar,Opposition Defiant Disorder,and ADHD.

posted October 29, 2006 12:52 PM            

MYTH:
It can’t be dyslexia. I had my child tested outside of the school system. They said it was: (pick one)
Auditory Discrimination Problem
Auditory Processing Disorder
Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD)
Orthographic Deficit
Difficulty remembering spelling patterns
Dysgraphia
Dysnomia
Dysphonetic Deficit
Phonemic Awareness Deficit
Reading Disability (RD)
Reading Fluency Problem
Short-term or Long-term Memory Deficit
Specific Language Disability (SLD)
Visual Processing Disorder
Visual-Motor Integration Disorder
Visual Memory Deficit
Visual Tracking Problem
Visual Convergence Problem
Vocabulary on Demand Problem
Word Retrieval Deficit
Written Language Disorder

FACT:
What dyslexia is called depends upon the type of specialist who did the testing, and their knowledge of dyslexia.

Dyslexia affects many different areas, but some testers only check one area. They find one weakness and come to the wrong conclusion. They don’t realize that weakness may be part of a bigger problem: dyslexia.

It’s like the fable of the blind men who approach an elephant from various directions. The one who discovers the trunk describes the animal very differently than the one who finds the tail, than the one who finds the leg, the tusk, etc.

posted October 29, 2006 01:27 PM            

Glaucus are you EVER wrong? Seems like you have a few Axis II issues goin' on. In which case there is NO arguing with you.

Are you a licensed mental health professional? You sure do throw around psychiatric and medical diagnoses as though you were. Maybe you're just a wannabe - You're very good at cutting & pasting information you find online.

The moment someone (in this case me) offers some additional SUGGESTIONS you immediately begin your quest to challenge, refute and dispel them.

Your narcissistic diatribe is repulsive - "I have to tell you that Stargazer's son reminds me a lot of myself. I am not Aspergers,NLD" It's always about YOU. YOU and YOUR girlfriend. YOUR son. I bet every post you've ever written in here, for the so-called benefit of another, contains multiple references to yourself!

Your arrogance is astonishing!

My God is your computer screen some narcisisstic mirror you use to marvel at yourself?

Who deemed you the ultimate authority on psychiatric/psychological conditions? If you had any legitimate credentials one would hope you would be wise enough NOT to try and diagnose a person via the internet based on your own personal experiences. How utterly unethical.

You think just because you can read the DSM you can diagnose someone? How dare you profess expertise in area you only have personal experience in!

I've only been on this board a month and I am sooooo sick of your projective identification bullsh*t.

Instead of analyzing everyone else, why don't you find yourself a good analyst to fix that chip on your shoulder so you can more effectively carry all that baggage you cling to so desperately.

Thoroughly disgusted,
Maire

posted October 29, 2006 06:43 PM            

But I have a lot of the same symptoms....I am not Aspergers nor NLD

When I read that stuff and read it to my girlfriend. She didn't think that it was necessarily Aspergers nor NLD either. She has a Dyslexic sister.

Yes....I know a lot about this stuff. After all I have Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I have been in the special education system for 3 years. I have been in the same class with people like me as well as been in the same class with the mentally retarded for the 1st year of special ed and they placed in a special ed class more suitable for me.

Don't get all pissy with me because I typed things that countered what you were saying. I was just offering my own opinions,views,beliefs,experiences,as well information. It had nothing to do with being egotistical nor thinking that I am always right. I was only trying to help.

I didn't even say that Stargazer's son was anything. I was just pointing about the Dyslexia and Dyspraxia and point out that people can have certain Dyslexic,Dyspraxic symptoms without having Aspergers nor NLD.

Poor eye contact isn't necessarily Aspergers. Anybody with common sense knows that. A lot of people are shy and introverted and don't like to socialize much. A lot of highly sensitive people are highly reactive to external stimuli.

A lot of the symptoms of Dyspraxia overlap with sensory integration disorder. That doesn't mean that they have Aspergers syndrome.

As a person who is neurodivergent,why shouldn't I be able to share what it's like to have Dyslexic and Dyspraxic symptoms that overlap with certain Aspergers traits? There is no crime in that.

There is no rule that people who have history of special needs stuff cannot help others who have history of special needs stuff.

Chiron has to being the wounded healer. Where Chiron is in your chart is where you experience wounds,pain,and need healing and teaching in that...this where you can heal an d teach others. Chiron is like empathy through painful experiences.

Stargazer's son has Chiron almost exactly conjunct the Midheaven. I have Chiron sextile Midheaven and it's only 3 minutes sextile my North Node in Aquarius in 5th.

I realized that part of my mission in life is use my history of being special ed child with Dyslexia,Dyspraxia to help others like myself. There is nothing wrong with that.

This has nothing to do with narcissm or ego. This has to do with compassion and concern for my fellow neurodivergent people. A lot of us get misdiagnosed and mislabeled too. It's B.S. I have written posts about this stuff too. I am more serious about this stuff than I am about Astrology. After all, I was a Dyslexic,Dyspraxic before I was an astrology. If it wasn't for great special education teachers, wouldn't have been able to be an astrologer...I wouldn't even be able to post on this forum.

I am a member of Dyspraxia USA organization and as well as International Dyslexia Association. I want to spend the rest of my life helping my fellow neurodivergent people.

I even decided that I want to start an irc channel on Undernet for neurodivergent people. It can help neurodivergent people meet others like them. My girlfriend thinks that it's a good idea and a friend of mine who has lupus too. My friend with lupus is a spokesperson,advocate for people with lupus. Why can't a neurodivergent person like me be a spokesperson,advocate for neurodivergent people. It seems logical. After all, I lived with these conditions. I know the pain,suffering,misunderstanding,namecalling,and misconceptions that many neurodivergent endure in their lives. I am also a person who benefited from early intervention so that my symptoms aren't severe any more but mild and subtle. There is a lot of misconceptions that we grow out of our conditions or we can't do things because of our conditions.

anybody with common sense should know that just because people have behaviorial,emotional issues doesn't necessarily mean that they have mental illness that requires medication. They could have other things going on with them like learning disorders.

I was misdiagnosed as having schizoaffective Bipolar disorder because of my Dyslexic,Dyspraxic related speech. I cluttered,but they thought it was some type of psychotic speech. They didn't do any testing. They only went by what they observed. I saw a world renowned neurologist/psychiatrist Dr. Harold N. Levinson(author on books on Dyslexia who confirmed that I don't have psychotic,bipolar symptoms but neurological issues related to cerebellar vestibular dysfunction which he believed what is root of Dyslexia and Dyspraxia. I saw a Veteran Affairs neurologist a year later,and he confirmed that I don't have a psychotic,bipolar disorder but neurological issues. He confirmed my auditory processing,visual deficts(poor saccadic eye movements),balance,and coordination problems.

So get off my ass. I didn't put anybody down. I didn't tell anybody that they are wrong and I am right. I put in my own 2 cents like you did.

First you gave me crap because I tactless diagreed with the Scorpio/Aries stuff. Now you attack me and judge me because I expressed my opinions,beliefs,and experiences as a person with Dyslexia and Dyspraxia that share some of those Aspergers/NLD traits.

WTF????

That's pitiful.

Here is my testing by Dr. Harold N. Levinson in 2005....diagnosis of cerebellar vestibular dysfunction which showed problems with eye coordination,balance,speech,and auditory processing http://people.tribe.net/2e0a4c30-b134-49f8-ba74-0990f36b0a5f/photos?page=2

posted October 29, 2006 07:44 PM            

I don't think that I seen anything that Stargazer said that suggests her son has Aspergers nor NLD.

Here you are, blatantly dismissing two diagnostic conditions, as though your opinion had medical relevance!

My suggestions were not meant for you to compare yourself to! Yet in your post this afternoon, you immediately compare, more times than I care to count, your Dyslexic and Dyspraxic symptoms against AS & NLD. Nowhere did I ever say Stargazer's child did not have Dylexia or Dyspraxia. Yet you feel the need to pigeon-hole anyone with similar symptoms into your own personal D&D club.

If you want to help educate people, take YOURSELF out of all your postings. Good research is NEVER written in 1st person!!!!

In your 12:10pm post you started THIRTY-EIGHT sentences off with the word, "I". Yeah, you're no narcissist...In your last post, you start off TWENTY-ONE sentences with "I"...get a grip!

You WISH you were just expressing your opinions,beliefs and experiences. You are asserting that YOUR personal dignoses have more relevance to Star's child at the exclusion of any other. That's dangerous territory you're in. You need to be very careful.

Besides, this is an ASTROLOGY board...must you REPEATEDLY illustrate the intimate details of YOUR dysfunctional life?? Go post such rantings on the irc channel you mentioned.

Oh, and BTW, you didn't directly say I was wrong however you DID indeed infer I was(look back to the top of this post, that's YOUR quote!) But you were wrong again I'm not here trying to diagnose anyone's child.

Another thing, you're a hypocrit. Blasting others for generalizing sun sign comparisons while you turn around and generalize complicated diagnostic criteria while trying to make an argument for your personal D&D crusade. SHAME ON YOU!

posted October 29, 2006 07:51 PM            

Just another desperate attempt for validation..."look at me, LOOK AT ME!!"

posted October 29, 2006 07:51 PM            

Just another desperate attempt for validation..."look at me, LOOK AT ME!!"

posted October 29, 2006 07:56 PM            

I was just only sharing what tests for neurodivergent people are like as well as defending myself too.

You are just twisting stuff out of spite.

I am not doing anything wrong.

I am not going bother exchanging words with you any more.

You may be an Aries, but my girlfriend is too. She is no way near like you. Thank God. She didn't give me any crap about me posting. She thought I should post and my 2 cents about the Aspergers and NLD stuff,and so I did.

It goes to show that an Aries can get along with Scorpio because not all Aries are alike.

posted October 29, 2006 08:20 PM            

"...twisting stuff out of spite." ???? The only thing twisted here is your fragile little ego.

posted October 29, 2006 09:23 PM              

Maire31-
Your hostility seems over the top. Ever since you found out Glaucus shares traits with your ex husband you've obviously been defensive towards his posts.

Maire31---"In your 12:10pm post you started THIRTY-EIGHT sentences off with the word, "I". Yeah, you're no narcissist...In your last post, you start off TWENTY-ONE sentences with "I"...get a grip!"

You actually took the time to count his sentences! Before you decide to throw yet another tantrum, I respectfully suggest you recognize your unresolved anger towards your ex. By design, forums are meant to encourage the free exchange of opinons and ideas. The very fact that Glaucus has used "I" in so many of his sentences simply illustrates how he is basing the posts on HIS personal experience, not an attempt to have the final word on someone's condition.

Just thought I'd add my two cents.

posted October 29, 2006 11:23 PM            

Actully Tantric I feel defensive because Glaucus repeatedly attempts to thwart my efforts at free exchange of opinions and ideas. He insidiously tries to minimize and even negate my contributions. Regardless if that is a shared trait with my ex, I would never stand for it. Has nothing to do with unresolved anger toward my ex.

Issues with people trying to repress/oppress me? Absolutely!

If you look closely you might see that I never dismissed any of his ideas, only listed additional perspectives to consider. When he comes back to refute or dispel my suggestions in favor of his own, you're damn right I take offense to that. Where's the free exchange in that? There's plenty of room for ALL opinions.

This personality conflict came about before I even knew when his birthday was. He once even refuted me when I COMPLIMENTED him in a separate thread.

Astrology, free will, etc. are one thing. When a person tries to exclude information in favor of their own, consistently, well yeah, I have to say that gets me kinda hostile.

posted October 29, 2006 11:55 PM            

I think all the different opinions and advice, etc. shared in this thread are worthy of further exploration by anyone that can relate to Stargazer's son's experiences.

Seeing as how none of us here have met, observed or evaluated her son, all we can do is share knowledge from our own base whether that's professional education or personal experience or any mix of the two. I'm certain that Stargazer, and anyone else that can relate here, is intelligent and wise enough to look into things on her own and provide her son with the best care possible.

I don't want to seem like I'm getting in the middle of a personal feud here. I don't know either Glaucus or Maire31 from LL well at all so I hope no one thinks I'm "taking sides". I don't think anyone's opinion, regardless of presentation, "overrides" or diminshes another person's opinion here ... they are only opinions after all and not diagnoses. We are all individuals and what works for one may not work for another.

I'm very glad to see so much information being offered to someone here seeking help.

posted October 30, 2006 11:31 AM            

I'm so sorry this all spun out of control. When it comes to children's issues, I've seen too many parents latch on to a diagnosis someone, anyone, attached to a certain set of symptoms. I've seen teachers, neighbors, coaches, even medical professionals speaking out of their area of expertise. Every one of them was well meaning, but that doesn't excuse the outcome.

It's heartbreaking when parents focus all their time, energy and attention on a specific area, only to find that is not the answer. This is when you see parents break down. Literally in tears. All they wanted was an answer. They were sure they found it. Then they have to start all over again. Very, very stressful.

As difficult and daunting a project it is, it's best to research as much information as you can handle. All of the conditions listed in this post are valid ones to look at. The best person to rule in/out anything is the specialist(s)you have chosen to work with your child.

Ultimately, you have the final say, so the more knowledge and information you bring to the table the better equipped you will be at assisting the specialists in teasing out conditions that do/do not apply to your son.

posted October 30, 2006 06:18 PM              

quote:

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I was wondering if you could tell me what kind of toys/games you liked as a child?
Could you find your toys in that room?
(I did not mean that in a bad way)

Did you play with video games (assuming you are young enough)... did you watch alot of T.V?

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Hi Stargazer...

I grew up in a neighborhood in the South where there were no other children to play with in the 70s (The neighborhood was a post-war suburban one built in the early 1950s and all the children had grown up & left home by the time I came along.) and where it was also oppressively hot & humid outside, so playing outside wasn't a lot of fun. So yeah, I watched lots & lots of television & played lots & lots of Atari in my youth. On the plus side of the scale, I also read a lot too...anything to escape the here & now.

I've never been an organized person (as opposed to my mother who is neat as a pin), but I've always been able to find whatever I'm looking for even if it's in a pile in the corner. I've been progressively getting better about it though since I figured out that I can find things just as easily where they're supposed to belong as I could by rooting through that pile of stuff in the corner that never seems to go anywhere.

posted October 30, 2006 09:35 PM            

Thank you Marie. It will be a difficult journey.
I talked to the school principal tonight.
She had some really interesting things to say as well. I think teachers, principals and the like are good sources of help and are also on the team, if you will. I mean my son spends the majority of the day with them.
She and the teacher are going to work with him in different ways to be sure he is continuing to learn.. It is part of their job.

I think I will be a step ahead visiting the primary Dr. next week. We'll see what she says as well.
Opportunity meets the prepared... on any journey... thanks again!!!

Temperance...

Thanks...

I asked because my son doesn't really get into video games..Sometimes I think it might be helpful in a way... as far as sticking with something goes.. But, I haven't really given him these things moreso, because he hasn't asked.

He does like to watch t.v. It drives me crazy. I guess in a way we were lucky not to have access to cartoons and such anytime of the day. Cartoons were Sat. am. It was sacred..
He prefers outside. It doesn't matter what the weather is, he wants to go.
I grew up in the South, too. I know what you mean about the heat. A Pool was the way to go...sprinkler.. something!

Piles of stuff.. and yes, it is amazing how often he does find stuff.
In fact his memory about certain things is very good. He remembers words to songs with ease.

But then again I had piles too. and I'm a Virgo... Go figure?

posted October 31, 2006 08:18 AM              

He has eating issues and toilet issues and short attention span...doctors have done NOTHING to help us or him...healers have...but most of all ASTROLOGY has given us the most clear and concise guidance..

As Lotus says, we are what we are....

I know the only things that heal a person are LOVE and UNDERSTANDING, both of which, at times, the medical professional dont offer.

To all our wonderfully sensitive and gifted children....LOVE IN ABUNDANCE....

Raymond, you are a wonderful person, dont let anyone tell you any different. I too have been hurt by people in the past....but it has strengthened me...as it will you... If our son grows up to posses only half the wisdom and kindness you have, I would be truly delighted

I hope I dont fit too tightly into the Scorpio mother stereotype... Maybe God sent Jacob to me as a Scorpio for understanding and like minds...what do you say Raymond?

posted October 31, 2006 12:03 PM            

And just think... One day, My son will read my journal and come to know about all of the wonderful souls at LL.. who helped him on his way...

sueg..

posted October 31, 2006 12:38 PM              

For sure, that is why we are all here...to help each other...tell our stories, to listen, share our joys and fears and be "real".....

Even though at times, things get heated, I feel it is a place of healing....

And thanks for the birthday greeting to Jacob....he will be 8 on 15th November. He is a Scorp Sun with Gem rising and a Libra moon.

posted October 31, 2006 12:57 PM            

I am very glad that healers helped your son.
Scorpios are said to be natural healers. Astrologers and psychics told me that too. I am trained in massage therapy because I am interested in holistic health. I am strong believer in herbal remedies. I pretty much open to holistic and alternative health remedies.Maybe your Scorpio son might end up being a healer too. It is often people who need special help who go on to help others. I feel that it fits in with Chiron - The Wounded Healer. He got rejected by his mother Philyra because of his half man,half horse appearance. He was treated like an outcast that didn't fit in. He ended up becoming a foster parent,guide,mentor for gods and heroes as well as a healer.

I agree with like minds. I believe that you can see hereditary patterns in Astrology. My mother has Moon in Scorpio square Pluto,and so she has affinity with my strong Scorpio chart.
She has strong water with her Ascendant,Mercury,Venus,Jupiter,and Uranus in Cancer along with Moon and Saturn in Scorpio that has much affinity with my strong water chart. She and I are very much alike..the good and the bad. We clash a lot and overreact towards each other,but we also have a very strong connection between mother and son. We love each other very much.

Thank you again for your kind words. They are much appreciated. You're a wonderful person too.

posted October 31, 2006 01:34 PM            

You're very welcome. I just wanted to help your son. He's definitely gifted with an intense,sensitive,unconventional,maverick nature which is not surprising with somebody strong Pluto,Neptune,Uranus and Chiron influence.

I really feel that he might end up being a healer,mentor,guide with having Chiron conjunct Midheaven with only 9 minutes of arc. He even could be an astrologer too....who knows. Chiron was said to be an astrologer too. I have Chiron sextile Midheaven myself.

He really does remind me a lot of myself as a child. We do have similar midpoint configurations too.