posted November 11, 2006 09:03 PM            

Peri also decribed other destructive positions, such as 23 degrees aries and 13 degrees gemini, plus a few more. Could someone give me any more info on desructive degrees in astrology please? I find this fascinating.

posted November 11, 2006 11:28 PM            

another to keep in mind is that astrologers look at a planet in a certain number of degrees as being in the next degree
they do this with sabian symbols

for instance,my Mercury is in 18'22 Scorpio
so that would be seen as Mercury in 19th degree....especially with Sabian Symbols.
19th degree is not necessarily bad. the fixed star,Zuben Eschamali(Northern Scales) is present there. my placement was in 18'59 Scorpio,and so its in alignment with my Mercury.

North Scale *
Zuben Alschemali Honours, wealth, distinction, brilliant mind, success in sports, politics, war, religion, writing, tragedy, violence, melancholy 19° Scorpio 23 Fortunate Jupiter/ Mercury/ Mars

This what my Kepler program says for my Mercury placement

Weber (Mercury):

Traditionally considered one of the worst, most despised, troublesome, destructive degrees,
but this is not necessarily true. A “wrecking crew”, often destroying those things and people
which have eclipsed their usefulness. Partially Aries, but more Sagittarian, often unwittingly
sponsoring Scorpio carnage - or should we call it regeneration? A devil’s advocate.
Perceptive, opportunistic, easy irritated, persuasive and enduring, has good chances of
success (North Scale of Libra here), and evil reputation is unwarranted; must avoid being
own worst enemy.

posted November 12, 2006 10:44 AM            

before a battle or a sale, or a trip to a far land, ppl used to ask the astrologer to establish the most fortunate timing of such an enterprise. hence - these interpretations that helped with the timing.

some have tried to use the same interpretations for natal but astrologically it doesn't hold. bc the fixed stars are not 'conjunct' in the usual way - being in a different plane than our solar system planets (they are far far far away).

you ppl like sensationalistic stuff even when it burns your ears! words like 'unfortunate' or 'doomed' attract you like the flame attracts the flys.

posted November 12, 2006 02:16 PM            

Reinhold Ebertin did.
Diana Rosenberg does.
Anne Wright does.
Philip Sedwgick does.

There are astrologers who have done fixed star natal reports. I had one done...it used the alignments. Diana Rosenberg has fixed star natal report which uses modern,psychological interpretations for fixed stars.

Bernadette Brady uses fixed star parans.

"you ppl like sensationalistic stuff even when it burns your ears! words like 'unfortunate' or 'doomed' attract you like the flame attracts the flys.

fascinating. and so very sad. "

There is no need to be judgmental ok.
Just because we are interested in fixed stars or degrees doesn't necessarily mean that we like sensationalist stuff including stuff like unfortunate or doomed. Don't try to loop us all into one group. You don't know what we like. I keep an open mind that certain methods could work. Heck..I believe that my mom's moon near the accursed degree has something to do with never knowing her mother,being in 13 foster homes,and her volatile emotions. I believe that my mercury near the accursed degree has something to do with my learning disabilities,communication problems,and my being misunderstood as well as my volatile speech at times.

It's pretty much all about

to each his,or her own.

posted November 13, 2006 03:27 PM            

Peri - Thanks for your reply. It's for my sister that I asked the question. I've just started to get her interested in astrology, and she's fascinated by the scorpio placements in her chart. The last few years have been absolute hell for her and I figure that if she knows about the challenging aspects in her chart, she can then work through them.