posted November 16, 2006 03:35 AM            

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...In our third book, Magi Astrology: the Key to Success in Love and Money, we revealed to our readers some of the most accurate interpretations of aspects anywhere. For example, in our Planetary Interpreter chapter, on page 322, we revealed that both the Mars-Uranus conjunction and parallel had this manifestation:

"In a man, this aspect is a Sexual Aspect, as well as often indicating a man who desires changes of sexual partners."

Johnny Depp was born when Mars and Uranus were conjunct AND at the same time Mars and Uranus were parallel. This means if you looked at the nighttime sky on the day he was born, Mars and Uranus were so close together that Mars was essentially eclipsing Uranus (like the way the Moon eclipses the Sun). For this reason, the Magi Society calls such rare alignments Planetary Eclipses. Usually, when two planets are conjunct to each other, the two planets are not also parallel to each other. Intuitively, you would think that when Planetary Eclipses occur, they are much more powerful than normal aspects and they are.

So the reason Johnny Depp is a Heartbreaker is that he was born with a Planetary Eclipse of Mars and Uranus. This is a reliable sign that he has enormous difficulty in trying to settle down into bed with the same woman for very long.

This is true no matter what linkages he has to the woman. If he forms Cinderella Linkages with the woman, he might fall in love with her, but he still has trouble making the commitment of marriage. If he marries, he still has much more difficulty than most in keeping his vows.

A MARS-URANUS ASPECT IS A HEARTBREAKER ASPECT if it is in a man's chart. What this means is that if you are a gal looking for a lifelong romance, men born with this aspect are not your best bet.

THE VENUS-URANUS ASPECT IS ALSO A HEARTBREAKER ASPECT

Astrologers have known for a long time that Uranus represents the urge for independence as well as change. Therefore, it should not surprise any student of astrology to learn that the Venus-Uranus aspect is also a Heartbreak Aspect. Prime examples of Heartbreakers born with this aspect are Warren Beatty (March 30, 1937 when Venus and Uranus were conjunct), Jack Nicholson (April 22, 1937 when Venus and Uranus were parallel) and Liz Taylor (Feb. 27, 1932 when Venus and Uranus were conjunct).

There is little argument that Jack Nicholson and Warren Beatty have been Heartbreakers, but some of you may wonder why we think Liz Taylor is in the same category. We put her in the same category because while she was married to three of her first four husbands, she began sleeping with the next man she was going to marry. Ask Debbie Reynolds.

After living 4 decades as a bachelor in Hollywood, Warren Beatty finally married. Annette Bening is the woman who finally was able to touch Warren Beatty's heart; the Hollywood gossip columnists tell us they are happily married. In the Members Only Section of our website, we reveal the astrological reasons why Bening and Beatty fell in love and married and are now raising a family. We provide our members with access to astrological knowledge that is not published anywhere else. If you would like information about the benefits of membership in the Magi Society, please click here and send us an email.

We discussed the Venus-Uranus aspect in detail in our third book. Since we published that book in 1999, another person with the Venus-Uranus aspect has made a splash in the tabloids as a Heartbreaker. Billy Bob Thornton (August 4, 1955) was born with a parallel of Venus and Uranus. His credentials as a Heartbreaker are:

Married five times so far. While his live-in lover, Laura Dern, was making a movie in Europe, he met Angelina Jolie and married her. Laura read about the marriage in the papers while she was still in Europe.

Our point is that if you are looking for someone to love you for a lifetime, a person with the Venus-Uranus aspect is unlikely to be the one. Such persons are more likely to be a Heartbreak person for you. OK - there are cases of women like Annette Bening. But the odds are against lifelong love with a Heartbreak person - how many gals did Warren Beatty use and throw away before Bening? The deck is stacked....
http://www.magiastrology.com/whattype.htm

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I know someone with Mars square Uranus and Uranus conjunct Venus opposition Jupiter, that guy has been married for 30 years, he admitted that had slept with other women just for sex (his words) although he had always loved only one woman in his life : his wife (his words).

BUT every time she was in serious trouble (like she got once misdiagnosed with cancer and was about to commit suicide), he was the only person to help and support her no matter what.

This guy was faithful but in his own way.

Somehow his wife found out he had cheated before and she was devastated.

So my question is do you think he is a heartbreaker?

posted November 16, 2006 07:39 AM            

What I find heartbreaking is when the other half is too passive as not being able to be straight and sure about his feelings, not being able to be true, not being able to commit and not being able to keep the promises. He can be passive in demonstrations, but as long as he is caring, is sure of his feelings and can make me sure of his feelings, and also keep his words, that's fine.. I need to feel the presence of his interest and love..

posted November 16, 2006 08:20 AM              

Physical cheating is heartbreaking to me....as well as emotional cheating...to me, emotional cheating means that the person has basically checked out of the relationship.

Coming from a person who has cheated herself, I didn't love the person I cheated on. Yes, it was a horrible thing to do, and I'll definitely never do it again, but I didn't love him. I believe if you truly love someone, you would never make that mistake. I can't even PICTURE doing that to my boyfriend, who I love more than anything....it hurts me just thinking about it. Maybe he does love her, but that's just my opinion...some people are really different when it comes to relationships.

posted November 16, 2006 08:57 AM            

The difficulty for me has a lot to do with my ability to love (often suddenly) many people in a personal way. But I'm trying really hard to focus on nurturing the relationship I am in. The woman I'm with is terrific and she deserves my full attention. Luckily, this aspect is off-set by my 1st house moon and cancer descendant, as well as (if not in connection with) the fact that both my birthday and lifepath numbers are "6", the most devoted and domestic of numbers.

ME:

Sun 13° 55'
Venus 15° 51'
MC 16° 26'
Uranus 16° 32'

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f309/Alem7/chart1.gif

posted November 16, 2006 09:13 AM            

You need a program to calculate parallel aspects but I can do it for you.

posted November 16, 2006 11:23 AM            

Double life... can't stay away from the "wild side" Its like an addiction.

Heartbreakers cause sorrow and disappointment..
Cheating included.. I have cheated and been cheated on.. I have also loved more than one person at the same time...although, I was only "in love" with one...
In my research on this subject, i have found this to be true... They are able to seperate it.. justify there actions someway... Some of them realise that they are not the marrying kind.. Some marry anyway and feed the need on the side...
Be afraid.. be very afraid..
It is past/ future clashing...and yes, that "one in a million annette bening" may or may not come along.. But is Warren still faithful or is he just like the guy Peri knows or the one I do..? Some are better at the cover-up than others....

I am now looking more into aspects of those who stay with these people...they fascinate me also.

Virgo Sun and Venus
Aries Moon
Cap ASC
Scorpio Mars

posted November 16, 2006 12:32 PM              

I think the guy you inquired about is a heartbreaker. One of the actual definitions is: 'One who causes crushing grief, anguish, or distress.' Sounds like he did this, unintentionally at least, to his wife. He and his wife had an emotional connection and therefore a heart chakra connection. So her heart energy center closed a little bit (which can be quite physically painful actually) in order to instinctivly protect herself. I'm sure the 'physical only' cheating has to do with how each perceive the 'physical act of love', but i'll leave that up to everyones imagination since I have mixed views on the subject.

posted November 16, 2006 12:36 PM            

Are those my aspects, then?
Thank you!

I will have to find a good website
to read about them.

posted November 16, 2006 12:47 PM            

And how wide an orb are you using?

thanks.

posted November 16, 2006 01:06 PM              

I have Venus (11th) opp. Uranus and Jupiter (5th). I liked him a lot, and I have good reason to believe he did like me. I think he thought I would support his love of "freedom" though (i.e. disappearing without a trace). No, def not. Yeah, red alert left and right...

His girlfriend doesn't know anything. Emotional cheater times a thousand. He's a heartbreaker and maybe I'm just as bad. (Not my crowning moment, ok)

posted November 16, 2006 01:40 PM            

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I dont think mars uranus conjunction means you cant be with one partner only.

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Me neither, I don' know why it always says that about mars-uranus hard aspects. For me,being a mars/uranus person, one person is enough work, I don't know why anyone would want the trouble of juggling 2 or more.

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To cheat on someone is a very selfish and evil act. Meaning you have no feelings of guilt for betraying and making your other partner feel so so sad and hurt.

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posted November 16, 2006 02:27 PM              

My whole rationale though is to simply decide whether you want to stay single or not. I think there is more dignity in serial dating and being open about bachelor/bachelorettehood, than living under the pretense of a 'loving' relationship (while cheating, hehe). Just decide.

posted November 16, 2006 02:29 PM            

Learning to understand, anticipate, and adapt to their effects on us is the work of countless lifetimes, and it is irrational to expect us to have it all figured out before we meet and fall in (and out of,... around, and through) love with you.

Furthermore, we all suffer from our ignorance and lack of evolvement where they are concerned - the person in possession of the aspect(s) at least as much as the people associating with them. It is easy enough to blame the person with the aspect, but they are no more responsible for having it than we are for not having it (they just happen to be the ones expected to deal with it). In the end, we are all in this together.

It is convenient to say, "Oh hogwash! That is just an excuse!" It is unsettling to acknowledge and come to terms with the reality of our powerlessness. But, it is, nevertheless, the truth. Uranus will be Uranus.

Perhaps the "problem", looked at from another angle, is not with Uranus, but with the personal planets. Is it really more selfish to demand the freedom to love a multitude of people, than it is to demand the privilege to be loved exclusively? And is it really more selfish to demand the freedom to receive love from a multitude of people, than to demand of your partner that he/she receive love from only you? Perhaps it is not Uranus that needs controlling, so much as it is Venus that needs transcending?

Bear in mind that your objections to this notion are most likely emotionally and personally motivated, bearing no relation to the way things are or ought to be (only to the way our personal egos and insecurities would desire them to be). Before you ask someone to transcend (or descend from) Uranus, consider transcending Mars and Venus yourself. It is, after all, a far easier task.

HSC

posted November 16, 2006 02:47 PM            

Thanks, teaologist.

I was expecting vehement recriminations
for having suggested those things.
It's nice to be met with open minds instead.

,
hsc

posted November 16, 2006 03:12 PM            

I supose not...
Food for thought for sure.

Thanks

posted November 16, 2006 03:46 PM            

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