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Lara
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posted June 24, 2008 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow you are so pretty 23

I can so see that Aries AC. I have Aries moon and we have a similar shaped face! So interesting... do you have a water moon? you have such a calmness and peacefulness around your aura.

What a beautiful person you are! Really kind soul... thanks for putting them up

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posted June 24, 2008 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's JT. Seriously compare my face shape and eyes to his.

Another famous Gem with Aries AC (born same day too):

No I have Libra moon with Neptune trine AC. Maybe youre also picking up on the Jup conj asc too. Thanks Lara Photos aren't going to be staying up long...

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posted June 24, 2008 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John doesn't have a fire sign AC... his chin is way too chiseled, don't you think?

I'm gonna stick with Virgo AC for him!

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posted June 24, 2008 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes well the chiselness certainly did throw me off. And Virgo AC is a fair assumption Looking at astrofaces.com and seeing gem with vir AC, they do look like him. Just don't understand why I'd be attracted to Vir rising though. I don't that must in common with that and minimal in common with the rest of his chart.

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posted June 25, 2008 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think JT's Mars in Aries could be confusing me... does Mars have any effect on our appearance though?

Ok well I really need to post this because my bf is a Gemini with Aries rising and moon, and I really think that he has some similarities to JT:

Can you kind of see what I mean about the jaw? I'll take this down soon cos he'll hate being compared to a DD member.

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posted June 25, 2008 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the pic GL75! can you make it bigger by any chance?

I'm kind of stuck myself. I see virgo or aries. I see what Lara is saying but I think there has to be something firey in JT, otherwise, I wouldn't be attracted to him. I'm sure he has mars in aries, being anarectic would make it really strong. That would make him ultra-manly and highly sexed as well. He is also famous for having a temper as well. I will put up some quote relating to him soon. Problem is with virgo ac, his mars would move into Tau. Still tau is very physical, sensual and would seek gratification. Temper would be slower and then turn into a raging bull. I have to put my own pics up again and see what you think of my chin, I'm a girl though. Also Errol Flynn up there is a Gem-Aries AC, he has a jutting chin too.

Still Lara has met the guy, she would have more insight than us. I can understand her POV and why she thinks that. I mean other Gem - Vir AC are N Kidman and Brooke Shields and he does have some resemblance to them

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posted June 25, 2008 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Notorious - Duran Duran's Unauthorised Biography - Steve Malins


page 45
"...Duran Duram's songs rapidly took shape in this frantic period of creativity with John Taylor also proving himself to be an intuitive talent. He's very much a character who lives emotionally in the moment, which makes him a natural, expressive musician. Although Rhodes has always been quick off the mark to communicate the band's vision, John Taylor's talkative intensity and drive are just as vital in defining the spirit of Duran Duran. He is the sensitive, charming, ad-libbing pop star to Rhodes's more controlled Pop Art, platinum-haired alter ego. Although they share a love of simple and uncomplicated aesthetics, one senses it emotionally, the other intellectually. That also makes him a bit of an enigma. "John's the sensitive one in the band", says Paul and Michael's younger sister, Amanda Berrow, who in the early days travelled with Duran Duran., running errands and looking after their clothes. "He's a very loving man and he really needs to be loved. He's very insecure and I could see really early on that he would direct his feelings inward. He was always beating himself up."

page 52
"Rhodes is also the anti- Sylvian - he's an assured caharacter with a very strong sense of himself.."

page 58
"John's idea was, "we want the cars, we want the girls and the money. We've got to have hit records."


Page 121-2
"Aside from exhausting Sydney's nightlife, Duran Duran recorded and mixed Seven and The Ragged Tiger in 301 Studios. One further delay of their own making was that as the songs continued to mutate and morph into different rhythm tracks. It was a frustrating, time-consuming process process that tried the patience of the band's temperamental bass player, who was desperate to get the album finished: "I was sharing an apartment with Alex [Sadkin] and one morning I remember him coming to me and saying, "We've changed the chords to a song, you have to play bass on it again." I smashed the shower door because I just wanted the ******* thing finished. That's why I decided to go away and do The Power Station". "John does get affected by things," divulges Denis O'Regan. "Whereas Simon can control him emotions, John's more intense and at times self-destructive. He can surprise you. You'll be having a conversation and everything will be fine and then suddenly you'll notice that he's growing quietly angry about something. He'll pick up on things you've said and he'll want to know what you meant by it."

....John Taylor sounded emotional when he spoke to the UK press from Australia: "It's like a nightmare at times. We've been here for eleven weeks and that's the longest I've been in one place for three years. I've got a flat in London that I've spent only ten nights in and I bought a house in the country that I've been in only one." He also bellyached, "You can't buy decent clothes in Australia". Le Bon came across as homesick but philosophical..."

..."It wasn't just the fragmented lifestyle that was taking its toll, as tensions simmered over the direction of the album. According to the methodical Nick Rhodes, "I thought the thing was never going to get finished. Everybody was pulling and tugging in different directions. To me, that album, more than any of them, on the surface of it, there's a lot of pretty songs on there but then underneath there's this sort of not quite controllable hysteria." Rhodes worked fifteen-hour days alongside Alex Sadkin and Ian Little, fine-tuning, technology-based record: "I'm the one who was there for every second of everything recorded on that album," he declared."

Page 131
"When the British dates of the UK tour ended in London, on 23 December, John Taylor for one enjoyed a relatively "normal" Christmas with his girlfriend, ex-Bond girl Janine Andrews. "I knew Janine before John did and then suddenly she entered their solar system," says Denis O'Regan of the Octopussy actress, who played a member of the all-female cult who live on a floating palace in India where no men were allowed. "I must admit I was a little horrified because John was off the list for having fun on the tour. Janine came out to see John on some of the dates and they had quite a fiery relationship. When John gets worked up you do know about it, he's very transparent and open. I seem to remember they had a few spectacular blazing rows and hotel rooms were destroyed. They were engaged during the tour but there was one night when John knocked back on my door and handed me this pound-10,000 engagement ring and said, "Can you look after this, she's handed it back to me."...."Fantasy and mundane reality collided on Christmas Eve 1983. Pop star, Bond girl and Aston Martin sports car flashed through the streets of...Birmingham to pick up some chicken bhunas from a local curry house. The door of the classic car jammed and they were left on the street holding their meal until some lads from a nearby disco gave them a hand."

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"On 17 January 1984 Duran Duran played Japanese dates...."Simon attacked me in Japan", recalls Denis O'Regan, who was hired as the official photographer on all of the Sing Blue Silver dates. "He'd drunk a bottle of tequila - I think he's only drunk it once since and the same thing happened - and it was a minor earthquake, so I went up to his room to see what everyone was doing. And he just attacked me. I'm six foot but Simon's bigger than me and we're knocking over the TV set, furniture is sent flying ad we fell through the unopened door of a private suite. Then it all faded away, but I felt all this pent-up anger inside me and I thought I heard someone saying "shut up" ad complaining about the noise. So I kicked in their door and it was these poor Japanese people inside who didn't have a clue what was going on. Later Simon apologized and Andy rang me up to say that the band were paying for the damage. He doesn't explode when he's angry, he's quite controlled, but the hysteria around was unrelenting."

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posted June 25, 2008 03:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another one I see a JT resemblance in is Marc Bolan - Libra with Sag rising and Aries moon.

I'm pretty sure it's the Aries-ness.

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"Off stage, Rob Hallet describes him (Le Bon) as a big kid. Everything was happy and jolly at all times with Simon. Duran Duran were at their peak and he loved every minute of it."

"Yet the singer was also a great moderator and diplomat while the band were on tour. "Some people were starting to get ****** -up", says Marcello Anciano. "The excesses were too much, but they were not willing to give up that lifestyle. Simon held it together. He can be a great diplomat when he wants to be. If someone walked out of a meeting, he would continue that meeting and then work out how he would call back the other band members." "Simon was he moderating influence in the band. He's a lot calmer than John or Andy," reckons Denis O'Regan. "Nick is more calm but more confrontational. He's less willing to accept someone else's point of view or in pacifying the other person. Simon's the one who would see more than one side of an argument."

"According to John Taylor, who was living on the edge of his nerves during the tour, "The difference between me and Simon is that he dives into the rock'n'roll business pool, swims about, gets out, dries off and goes away, and I can't. I'm like a twenty-four-hour breakdown. SImon is like this free spirit who runs around, but I need other people to help me function properly." This delicate-featured, foppishly fringed twenty-three-year old was a charming but vulnerable character during the American trip. He lived for being the bass player in Duran Duran and would freak out if a string broke and knocked him off his groove. But off stage he was just as intense - a quiet, scarred pop cavalier who dealt with his shyness and insecurities by transforming himself into a rock'n'roll hedonist: "Cocaine was literally given to me on a plate every day," he confessed years later. "I was able to be this pin-up guy twenty-four hours a day. Especially useful after midnight.". "John's an emotional, sensitive guy", says one of his closest friends at the time, Rob Hallet. "People were aware he was doing a lot of coke, maybe too much, and everone was saying to him, "Hey John, you should slow down a bit", Marcello Anciano asserts, "John is such a nice guy, he really is, but he did have problems. He was getting into drugs really heavily. He seemed troubled. There's this self-destructive streak in him and the drugs were part of that. It was like he was saying to himself, "I can't be having a good thing, so therefore I'm going to **** it up somehow."' Accounts of John Taylor's self-destructive behaviour on the tour include kicking in a TV set and being taken to hospital after punching a lightbulb. The bassist himself confessed to Smash Hits, "In San Fransisco I did my foot in. I got twenty stitches from dancing on broken vodka bottles. I had to go to the hospital and have seven injections. It gives you an awful feeling. It like your body leaves you and yo have to keep breathing deeply to stay OK. I felt as if my soul was pinned to the ceiling. It's the worst I've ever been." Apparently this incident occurred after an argument between John Taylor and his fiancee Janine Taylor, although friends insist they don't believe that he then performed a self-mutilating jig on the shattered glass and argue that it was more likely that he cut his foot open as he ran to comfort his girlfriend. However, Duran Duran's manager, Paul Berrow does accept that it wasn't an isolated event and that the volatile, brooding pop-star was showing signs of finding it "extremely hard to adjust to being a global icon - understandably, as it does take a bit of getting used to. But he knew that Michael and I were ruthlessly intolerant of anything that would threaten the integrity of the band. Apart from that one time with Simon on the first album, John was the only other band member that we had to sit down and talk to...."

"This is typical Taylor at the time", suggests Marcello Anciano. "They had a big deal with Coca Cola to sponsor the tour and the band went to the head office in Atlanta. John go up on stage an said, "I prefer Pepsi myself". It was gob-smackingly like "What the **** are you doing John?"...After John said that, the whole place went completely silent....."I don't think John knew what he'd done. He's got that kind of sense of humour and the air he was breathing was pretty head at the time."


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posted June 25, 2008 03:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moi: Aries AC. I'm ok with JT being Aries AC too

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Oh wow! I can totally see how your appearance fits your placements, 23!!!

Interesting quotes, btw.

I'm convinced that JT is an Aries rising. BUT like you said, Lara does have more insight than us... Although, my bf does come across as very Virgoan too at times, and he doesn't even have anything in Virgo apart from Pluto.

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posted June 25, 2008 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's some JT pics. Compare me to him GL75, blow the pics and look at them. Look at the eyes and jaw, esp my 3rd pic with his first pic. Btw I have a aqu sun/libra moon




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Also I'm going to go way out on a limb (grabbing at straws, maybe!) and say that JT has an astrological connection with Marc Bolan - because, the first record JT ever bought was 'Ride A White Swan' by Marc's band T Rex, AND The Power Station also covered 'Get It On (Bang A Gong)'. So I'm reckoning there's an affinity somewhere.

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Personally, I'm seeing the resemblance between you and him very strongly and I really feel like you're on the track!

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posted June 25, 2008 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 25, 2008 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL

How does Marc Bolan look like JT?
I don't see it at all...


I haven't seen anyone else in this thread who looks remotely like JT!

Here is a friend of mine - i'm sure he won't mind me putting these up! lol
He looks the closest to JT l think... although his jaw line is more Aries AC.....


now THAT is a JT lookalike lol
i think my friend is better looking though :P

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I dunno Lara, it's just an... energy... something in Marc's eyes and just... something! The face structure is different because of Marc's Saggi rising (more rounded), but I've always seen *something*. I think because Marc carries the Aries energy more subliminally (and if JT is an Aries rising then he carries it overtly). Personally Marc appeals to me more as I'm a Sag rising myself - so I just love, love LOVE him and actually... this brings me to 23's point about the "familiar" feeling... I have that exact same feeling with Marc Bolan! He trips ME out.

Strangely enough, I see it only very vaguely in your friend (he's great looking though!). The second picture more so than the first one. In fact it's making me wonder if we have our own astrological biases... like maybe I see it more in Marc because of my Jupiter in Aries... lol.

Oh and yeah 23, Aries risings do seem to love red.

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posted June 25, 2008 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi 23. I would be lying if I guessed because I am really bad at these guessing games. I am sorry I couldn't help.

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posted June 25, 2008 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well yes, there is always a level of personal bias. Maybe I'm simply reading things into it but who can say that they don't? Also there's different things that are picked up by different people in a chart. For example, if someone places their friend up and says "guess this person's sun, moon, ASC", an earthy person might pick up the person's earthy asc, an airy friend the airy sun etc.

However, I have to do say that I think both Lara's friend (where in the hell do you meet these people Lara?! ) and Bolan both have some resemblance to JT, in fact JT is a bit of a cross between them. Lara's friend is the more masculine end; Bolan, more feminine. So I have to ask Lara, what is your friend's sun, moon etc? JT has a gem sun, tau moon, which might be on the more fem end of things. Gem can be quite androgenous looking on its own, but if aries ac is put up, then we get a masculinised swashbuckler (eg see Errol Flynn).

My problem is that if JT is virgo, where does this familiarity and attraction come from? Where does his flashiness come from - ie the women. cars, bold colours, the outrageous hair come from?

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posted June 25, 2008 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unmoved - I was more interested to see if your cousin herself represented the aries AC people on the 2nd page. Based on what I saw of her, her eyes aren't as sharp as theirs are. So I guess I'll discount her from having Aries AC.

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posted June 25, 2008 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces sun
Taurus moon

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posted June 25, 2008 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ha ha, you got me there Depends what else is in the first I guess. Well from my perspective, I actually think JT is better looking than him. You are talking to a aqu-lib person though

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posted June 25, 2008 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, here's some Gem-Vir AC celebs, and again I see a resemble to JT:




http://www.flickr.com/photos/dwnews/2435285615/ - admittedly, nicole has always reminded me of JT but I don't have the familiarity with her

IF thats the case, then we go back to the SN problem....

However, looking at JT and the virgo AC rising, I'm seeing a lot of fire in JT. The others kind of have a softer face than JT notwithstanding being similar. Are we confusing gem with virgo here???


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posted June 25, 2008 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seriously, do you think it has something to do with how JT is posing in those shots? He's obviously posing and being saucy and narrowing his eyes down to look an aries maybe. What about a free flowing shot of JT? His chin certainly resembles McCartney's

Damn you JT! >: (

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posted June 25, 2008 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
have to say l don't see JT in any of them


I see Nick Rhodes in McCartney though

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