posted June 25, 2008 05:25 PM            

One of the reasons that why I thought ura and plu might be in the first is because I have ura in my 7th and pluto conj my DC (but in the 6th) and maybe he has something that I have been instinctively looking for. I also have moon in 7th and his moon would be in the 10th (very prominent). His moon is in tau also and that would make for a relatively similar moon in the sense that both are deposited by venus.

Anyway, here is him if he had Aqu AC. Very strange chart (hard skewing) and a lot of commoness with my chart again.

Notice in the Aqu AC chart that he has Ura in 7th like me, pluto in 7th (mine conj DC); nep in 8th too like me; chiron in 1st as well too. But is this his chart?? Also he has only 2 degrees worth to make it fall in conj with my sun in Aqu! However, he also is tall (6'2') and lanky; in tune with Aqu.

I think Jupiter influence is interesting that you mentioned. I have jupiter on the asc in 1st. Regardless of birthtime, he has Jup opp his sun/venus. And strangely I did notice that he put on a lot of weight in the "VIew to A Kill" videoclip which was made around the time of his 24th/25th year. If Jupiter is on the asc, then he would have had his jupiter return and gotten fat. This is what happened to me during the time I had my return as well.

Sag AC Chart:

I should put photos up Izo, let me know if you are interested.

Also GL75 - I think I might have missed a question earlier on re mars. If mars is his chart ruler (ie Aries AC), then yes, it would have a major impact on his appearance. You'd then have to look at the sign it is in and its aspects. Likewise as Izo said, if his mars makes an aspect to his non-aries AC, then that is important too and it should be looked as well. Btw my mars is in Gemini. And yes, your bf does have the same face shape as JT!

Anyway, I'll be searching for more stuff.

posted June 25, 2008 06:06 PM            

ALL OF YOU, WATCH THIS :
Here's also another interesting bit where DD got offerred an interview on Joan Rivers show. I've chosen this video because they are acting in a non-staged way. Start watching from about 1:29 to about 3:14. Can you pick up anything on JT's behaviour there? I'm picking up on a supressed heat there, at least assertion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IClI3YHDSvk&feature=related

Also watch this from 2:40 to 4:24 and where they are kept waiting to do an interview, watch the behaviour again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hltGiRPg354&feature=related

posted June 26, 2008 01:19 AM              

I base this on, well, pretty much nothing! lol Okay, well...Simon as a Leo ASC because of his "mane" of hair and also his nose looks sort of cat-like. John as a Libra ASC because he's such a pretty boy (I mean, he's actually PRETTY! lol)

posted June 26, 2008 01:55 AM            

A late libra AC might fit. Considering he has had two long relationships with tau (one marriage) and one marriage to tau and another relationship. Leo AC - entertainment and doing something interesting and different - ura in 10th. Pluto in 10th - seeks power. Would have DC in Aries - very firey with Mars in opp to AC (Izo, that's your theory; appearance wise he doesn't look like Lib AC, must be mars?) - firey in relationships. Sun/Venus in 8th - sexy. Jupiter in 2nd - expansion of wealth. Trailblazing 6th house. Saturn in 3rd might be a problem - he's not exactly restricted when it comes to talking...

posted June 26, 2008 06:47 PM              

In my opinion, he's middle Aries Asc - in the Leo decanate. I think it fits him best. Puts Mars in his 1st, Saturn-Asc square and Uranus-Asc trine.
Is it just me, or does he have red highlights to his hair?? This is an Aries trademark. Also, the eyebrows shaped as the Ram's horns and the confrontational look. Take a look at this pic: http://www.duran2.net/img/gallery/jt_ttp_card.jpg
It is definitely Aries, it shows in the interviews as well. I can see his Gemini Sun from the way he plays with his hands, takes his hands to his face quite a lot. I also see his Taurus Moon, he definitely has an earthy vibe and this slows his temper a bit. And I also see Aries. The faces he makes, the silly joke in the beginning have an Aries flare. They are not natural btw, he has previously studied them in the mirror. I know this because I make the same faces in the mirror and I have my Sun @13 Aries, in the Leo decanate. My Mom, even in her 50s, makes some of those faces, and she's Aries rising, also in the Leo decanate. We're eternal children!
That wide smile is FIRE 100%. Plus the contagious laugh.

I also see the Libra vibe, but I think it has more to do with his Sun-Venus conjunction. I also got a watery impression at some point, I think it's because of Neptune trine Sun.

posted June 26, 2008 06:56 PM            

Well thats what I suspected, ie middle aries AC. I have mine at 14 deg. I identify with him too much not to be anything else. And yes, I pull faces as well. Overly expressive. His movements are also very jerky - mars. His hair though has changed colours so many times that God knows what's real.

Maybe this is? I don't know: http://www.flickr.com/photos/julied2u/45985570/in/set-1004530/
I've always thought it was dark but its so hard to get a shot of him in the sun, let alone one with natural hair colour

My natural hair colour:

posted June 26, 2008 08:04 PM              

Hmmm, yeah, that video is steamy! They were quite sensational in their peak days.

Well, even if Lara met him, she might still be wrong. People behave differently in different situations. And I think transits matter too. It's one thing to have Jupiter on your Asc when you meet someone and quite another if you have Saturn or Uranus. You'd behave and dress and speak differently.
I remember Dark Dreamer's thread, Lara was sure the guy was Leo Asc. He turned out to be Pisces. I was also wrong about him, I guessed Aquarius (he was having t-Uranus on his Asc though). Nobody guessed it right LOL.
I think we all have to take our personal bias into consideration. That is all. I hope Lara won't feel offended.

posted June 26, 2008 10:33 PM            

Anyway, for a bit more speculation. What is interesting is that regardless of where you set the AC for 2nd decanate for JT, he has mars and moon in the 1st for this. This would make his face more angular than mine because of mars (excusing that he is male and I'm not) and rounder (moon) - his features are much more squat and tighter than min. His hair appears to be darker than mine too. Maybe a moon thing as well. My face I think is a lot longer than his in reality, well at least the bit of my face below my eyes, I think that is caused by Jupiter and I have fuller cheeks (even if I was a male I think I would). I heard Jupiter makes for full cheeks and rules the middle bit of the face. I have a more equine face, him feline. I also have chiron in the 1st, I really don't know how that plays out with appearance. I've never heard any descriptions for it. Otherwise, I have aqu sun conj merc and both opp saturn, which fits the JT aspects you listed above. My mars is also in Gem. His sun by the way is in the 3rd/aqu decanate as is his venus.

posted June 27, 2008 12:10 AM            

Also if Simon is Leo AC, ok IS Leo AC, then projection and appearances are ruled by people's ascendant, so by deduction, John must have a compatible AC. Simon has said that John is the handsomest man he has ever seen, so the ACs must be compatible and in relationship. Likewise, for me to fall off the chair when I first saw him and over and over again and identify with him so strongly, there's something there between us as well. You must remember that I have the following aspects in my own chart:

Asc conj Jup
Asc conj Chiron (wide though 8-9 deg but Jup in middle)
Asc opp Moon
Asc opp Pluto
Asc sextile Mars
Asc trine neptune
Asc quintile Sun
Asc quintile Mercury

If his asc is conj with mine, most of these aspects if not all will apply in synastry between him and I as well as his saturn squ my asc and his ura trine my asc.

posted September 23, 2008 06:21 AM            

Check this quote out from JT:

quote:

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SImon is like this free spirit who runs around, but I need other people to help me function properly.

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Simon has an Aqu DC, JT has a Lib DC. So obvious now.

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(Same freaking face shape, eyebrows and nostrils LOL!)

posted April 13, 2009 06:23 AM            

Look at the woman in the first decanate in Gemini Rising here.
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/1601/physical.html

Look at these Gem rising male celebs: http://www.librarising.com/astrology/risingsigns/geminirising2.html

He has their lips and nose shape. His face is neat and not as abrupt as Aries Rising. The bottom part, although it has a square jaw found in Aries, it doesn't have the length of it. Aries jaws start up high. However, all other evidence of his behaviour may point to Aries rising and he wears red and hats so well and his partners and plenty of other evidence. Or is it his underlying Sun that I'm picking up on??

If he is Gem rising, he'd definitely have his Venus and Sun in the first. That might add the fire in the first house and looks and the venereal plumpness of his lips and enhance his looks in general. His lips are like Gem risers, esp David Charvet and Neil Armstrong, they all have curled up lips at the end. His chart ruler would be Mercury in Cancer, which would give him dark looks and pale skin.