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VirgoManBrokenHeart unregistered
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posted December 30, 2006 06:38 AM
Any input about Sagittaruis females, what was in her mind how Sagittarius females feel about vrigo love I wonder to this day why my saggitarius "Tigress" who loved me more than I loved her did't stand my side ...when ...IP: Logged |
whalepiscean unregistered
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posted December 30, 2006 01:55 PM
My friend is an Arab Sagittarius who loved a Virgo English man. They both lived together in London and were very much in love. According to her, she could always feel his presence when he was near; when he entered a room and she was there, without looking up she would know it was him. She finished studying in London and had to come back home to take care of her divorced and lonely mother. They tried to continue a long distance relationship but she knew there was no future as her family would never let her marry a Christian. He did not want to leave her and to this day he emails her and wants her back. She used her mind and not her heart so she decided to break up with him; she was very firm with her decision and never backed down. She loves him to this day ( She has been in our country for almost four years now and they broke up three years ago.) whenever we talk about true love she will mention his name; I know she loves him still and no one else can come close to him and the love they had, but she won't let herself contact him because there is no future. It's sad really. What she did must have taken a lot of strength, I don't know how you can leave the love of your life. But that doesn't mean she loved him any less. I'm truly sorry for your loss VirgoManBrokenHeart------------------ We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield. IP: Logged |
Amelia unregistered
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posted December 30, 2006 07:43 PM
"...Thank you for the Astro chart, yes I missed it Thank you Amelia for telling me that my moon is Gemini, but what does it means? Do I have some Gemini Characteristics? Thank you all for every thing and please carry on the discussion I will be so happy to answer anything Best regards." - VirgoManBrokenHeartReally, it is no problem at all.  The moon has more to do with ones' emotions; how they react to emotional situations and so on and so forth... With a gemini moon one would have the tendency to 'word out' their emotions more; i.e.: being able to elaborate their emotions in conversations (gemini is ruled by mercury); 'water' moons on the otherhand tend to 'feel' out their emotions more. Of course (this is not always the case), other factors must be looked at (natal aspects in the chart). More information on Gemini moon: "Lunar Geminis are usually pleasant, witty, and charming people. At home and with family, however, they can be moody and irritable at times. People with Moon in Gemini are always interesting people—they have a finger in every pie, are curious to a fault, and are generally well-informed. Nervousness and worry are common traits with this lunar position. An underlying restlessness is common, and many Lunar Geminis need more stimulation than others. They usually read a lot, talk a lot, and think a lot with this airy, mutable position of the Moon. Their homes are often a perpetual work-in-progress. They generally dislike housework, but are big on home improvement. Re-organizing their homes in little—and sometimes big—ways seems to keep them happy, as Lunar Geminis are easily bored by both routine and constancy. Often, this is a reflection of their inner world—"the grass is always greener..." applies here. Inwardly, Lunar Geminis are often unsettled. Moon in Gemini parents are generally more adept at handling the intellectual needs of their children than emotional ones. Others' complicated emotions, in general, can be difficult for Lunar Geminis to handle. In their families, Lunar Geminis often take on the role of organizing get-togethers. They are at their best when they have plenty of things to do beyond routine. Moon in Gemini people almost always have a way with words. They are clever and witty, and more often than not can be found chatting with others. They are sociable and friendly, and feel comfortable in crowds. Some pay too much attention to what everyone else is doing, and lose touch with what they really want to do. Generally, Lunar Geminis have a million and one projects going. They are impressionable folk, and their imagination is boundless. Their openness to new ideas is admirable, although decisiveness and persistence take a blow as a result. Still, versatility and adaptability are some of the stronger traits of this position of the Moon. When irritable, these people can easily become snappy. Their moodiness is complicated—this is not the same kind of moodiness you'll find with water sign moons, for example. Usually, difficult behavior stems from inner restlessness. Lunar Geminis want to do it all, and have trouble sticking to any one project. When problems arise, the first instinct of Moon in Gemini natives is to talk things out. Their tendency to analyze can give them the appearance of emotional detachment. In fact, Lunar Geminis may be especially comfortable talking about their feelings, but feeling their own feelings doesn't come as easily. Those that don't take time out to really emote and understand their own needs may end up baffling others. Feeling misunderstood is common for Moon in Gemini natives. The only real solution to the problem is learning to get in touch with their own feelings." source: http://cafeastrology.com Also, Sun in Virgo, Moon in Gemini "You were born with the Sun in Virgo and the Moon in Gemini. Both signs are rather intellectual, and you reflect a practical, utilitarian mind with planning and organizing abilities. As a Virgoan, you are very subordinate and a servant of others. You pay constant attention to detail, and this makes you a very careful worker, especially in tasks requiring observation and exactitude. Through education and adaptation to environmental surroundings, your personality will become quick-witted, intelligent, and very versatile. You are one of those persons who can do any type of work that requires plenty of movement. In love matters you are rather cool but very expressive. You must try to overcome your hesitancy and lack of continuity, dependability, and perseverance. Try not to be so critical of others." source: http://astro.com I don't think this has much to do with 'mending' your broken heart (that always takes time)...but you asked; so I semi-answered, heh... Hopefully, some of the other knowflakes can elaborate more on this issue.  Best of luck; plus, this thread needed a *bump* up. lol. ------------------ 'Virgo Ascendant, Libra Moon, Aries Sun' "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense". - Buddha IP: Logged |
moonshine unregistered
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posted December 30, 2006 08:52 PM
I'm a virgo and I would say virgos are cool on the surface but simmering underneath. We control our emotions, sometimes too much, when really we want to break out and lose ourselves in passion. I can't let go with someone unless I trust them and know them a great deal. I was in love with a man (another Virgo) for six years but we never got physically passionate together enough times.. my fault, I need trust and commitment and 'togetherness' and I didn't really get that from him. I guess both of us being Virgos it was a non-starter - we kept things too much on the surface.. non-commital.. both too independent. I truly CRAVE that deeper passion that Scropios seem to find so easy, Virgos have too many things in their heads keeping them back. I think it was Linda Goodman who said that Virgos are capable of loving from a distance, and have a pure idea of the love they want, and they'll stick to it and prefer to be alone until they find it - thats so so true of me! And it's also true that Virgos don't forget. He was my first love, and I still actually love him. I will never forget him, but I can't go back to him. I know if I see him again all my feelings will come back and I know it will be the same for him too. It always does. But it always ends too. IP: Logged |
Amelia unregistered
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posted December 30, 2006 11:06 PM
"I'm a virgo and I would say virgos are cool on the surface but simmering underneath. We control our emotions, sometimes too much, when really we want to break out and lose ourselves in passion. I can't let go with someone unless I trust them and know them a great deal." - moonshineYou know, moonshine...to me that is more important. 'I love you' is just another phrase unless one means it. I rather it be genuine than someone who goes around saying 'I love you' to everyone (or immediately in a relationship)...then, it just becomes a pointless/meaningless phrase. If it's not genuine; forget it...words pale in comparison to ones' actions. lol, sorry it's my venus in taurus who's doing the typing... ;p IP: Logged |
VirgoManBrokenHeart unregistered
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posted December 31, 2006 04:36 AM
Thank you so much whalepiscean Thank you so much Amelia Thank you so much moonshine Thank you so much all of you for your input Yes whalepiscean I know my tigress loves me more than I love her and you know more painful for me is not my own loss (which really is unbearable), but even more than that is, I always wonder if she would be happy without me and thinking about ‘if she would miss me’ my heart sinks. I love her so dearly that I am always more concerned about her happiness rather than my own. Amelia you have been so kind. Moonshine I understand & share the same feelings. Thanks again all of you My God bless you!
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posted December 31, 2006 04:41 AM
Thank you so much whalepiscean Thank you so much Amelia Thank you so much moonshine Thank you so much all of you for your input Yes whalepiscean I know my tigress loves me more than I love her and you know more painful for me is not my own loss (which really is unbearable), but even more than that is, I always wonder if she would be happy without me and thinking about ‘if she would miss me’ my heart sinks. I love her so dearly that I am always more concerned about her happiness rather than my own. Amelia you have been so kind. Moonshine I understand & share the same feelings. Thanks again all of you My God bless you!
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 02, 2007 04:02 PM
Sue  I haven't been around for a few days, but if you'd still like my email I'll give it to you. I don't know if the one Randall has is still open. My addy for LL is future_uncertain7@yahoo.com. I skimmed this thread, but will go back and read again and post then. This is a good time for this topic! IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted January 02, 2007 05:13 PM
VirgoMan, quote: I love her so dearly that I am always more concerned about her happiness rather than my own.
i wud say tht u shud care a little more about your happiness. i don't know your whole story. but wud just like to say that it is important to love yourself first and foremost. you virgo's are great people. but u share one thing in common with us cappy's : we don't love ourselves enough. always finding faults with ourselves, putting the other person first, putting others needs and happiness above our own. I am a venus in cappy, so i know.  but believe me, looking for love outside of yourself is a mistake. u r running after a mirage. we need to love ourselves first, before we can expect anyone else to love us. relationships should always be on an equal basis for them to survive. IT IS NOT HEALTHY FOR ONLY THE MAN OR WOMAN TO'ADAPT' OR MAKE SACRIFICES. any one person making all the sacrifices for the other, doesn't work, believe me. take it this way....how wud YOU feel if you were not allowed to say sorry when u really wanted to? wudn't u feel uncomfortable after a while? like you r not allowed to express yourself? your not allowing the other person to do things for you is sort of passive-aggressive you know. its a passive way to show that you have been hurt. and its very unhealthy. tht's my opinion. because i hv been on the receiving end of it. my guy had a venus conj neptune and was really big on making sacrifices for me. it drove me mad. whenever we fought, it was his fault. i felt stifled. like i cudn't come out with my negative emotions because he wud claim them as his own!! whenever i got angry with him i wud feel so guilt striken, bcoz he wud act like it was all his fault. i WANTED him to fight back when i was being nasty. tell me exactly who i am. tell me when i am wrong. i needed to hear the truth from him. ILWL IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 02, 2007 05:27 PM
ILWL, there's a lot of truth to what you've said. When one person is always giving into another or is placing them on a pedestal, the result is a sort of emotional imprisonment, and one that is difficult for the first person to understand.The best thing anyone can do in a relationship is BE YOURSELF!!! You don't do anyone any favors by witholding the gift of YOU. IP: Logged |
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posted January 02, 2007 05:45 PM
thanks future,two words tht u said really struck a chord....'pedestal' and 'emotional imprisonment'. thts exactly wht it felt like....it drove me mad. i had to be so careful of wht i said, how i worded my feelings...it felt like walking on tiptoe or holding your breath. ILWL IP: Logged |
InLoveWithLife unregistered
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posted January 02, 2007 05:53 PM
quote: The giver is always better and superior than taker, it is always better to be on giving side that way you feel grace, pride and satisfaction, the sacrifice has its charm and the feeling which sacrifice gives you is beyond expression
And that way the other person feels horrible and feels like he/she is using you (unless of course they are actually using you and didn't love u in the first place). and has no choice left but to enter the competition to prove tht they too r 'loving' and 'giving' and 'caring'. or at least not 'inferior'. its best to just be yourself. to not change yourself for the other's sake unless the change happens naturally when your way of looking at things changes. IP: Logged |
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posted January 03, 2007 05:51 AM
Thank you InLoveWithLife Thank you future_uncertain Perhaps you are right, I will try ………. Best regards. Thanks every body.IP: Logged |
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posted January 04, 2007 03:24 AM
VirgoMan (i don't like to call you VirgoManBrokenHeart, bcoz i hope it won't be that way for long...), i hope you didn't get hurt by what i said.but the way i look at it, i felt that 18 years is a reeeally long time. i read another post of yours, whr u asked how you will be able to do justice to anyone when your tigress rules your heart. u knw, getting interested in someone new is supposed to be the best way to get over someone. try it! i definitely don't prescribe rebound relationships, but this wud be faaaaar from it. open your heart to someone new now. let someone love you and let yourself love someone. and feel the healing effect it can have.  ILWL IP: Logged |
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posted January 04, 2007 03:27 AM
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Amelia unregistered
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posted January 04, 2007 03:36 AM
Oh dear, I wish I could find the thread...but...at the moment I can not seem too. ...However, I remember reading a thread here at LL on soul mates on how in some way they are 'karmic' and we are sometimes meant to learn from them; not really end up with them (some last months, some last years). Anywho, it is better to have loved once than never have loved at all...to just experience love is a wonderous and powerful 'thing'. VirgoMan, I do believe that one day your heart will mend...*sigh* I wish I knew what else to say... IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 04, 2007 09:45 PM
VirgoMan (I, too, like the idea of forgoing the "BrokenHeart.")Are you still here? I'm going to jump off my roof if you, a real live Virgo who is willing to finally shed some light into the enigma that is the heart of the Virgin, have gone away. I'm a Sag... we can swap notes! Please stop in and say hello. Would love to talk to you more. ????  IP: Logged |
VirgoManBrokenHeart unregistered
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posted January 05, 2007 05:27 AM
Thank you so much, each one of you Thank you InLoveWithLife Thank you future_uncertain Thank you Amelia I am here and you can always catch me live on yahoo messenger my yahoo id is whygirlsbreakhearts@yahoo.com Right now, I am working in former Yugoslavia we are 1 hour ahead of England time. I visit this forum each day and almost all day I am on line on my yahoo messenger. I like to swap notes. I am interested in nothing more than to know what is going on in my Sag… Tigress’s heart and since you are sag... maybe I can learn a lot what I want to learn so dearly……. To change the id I have to register again, but I will keep in mind no more broken heart…. Thanks for that too! Best regards.
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sue g unregistered
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posted January 05, 2007 05:53 AM
Not all girls break hearts VirgoManMaybe if you change yer messenger address, it will bring you luck.. Maybe you can use something like "women rock"  And then, who knows, but you might just meet a lovely warm and loving girl/woman  IP: Logged |
VirgoManBrokenHeart unregistered
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posted January 05, 2007 08:06 AM
You are just right Sue, and thanks so much Best regards.IP: Logged |
sue g unregistered
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posted January 05, 2007 08:32 AM
You are welcome VirgoManSending all that is best in life to you  IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 05, 2007 04:51 PM
VirgoMan, Let's begin our lessons, then, shall we?  What can you tell me about the Virgo love experience? For instance, my Virgo says it was at first sight for him, that he's completely fulfilled by me, etc. Yet he seems to be so unmoved by me. And when I ask him to explain this to me he acts so surprised. He says he's anything but unmoved. *frustration!* This is about as passionate as he gets, yet I can see that he is very much in love with me. Is it that love doesn't really matter much to the Virgo, or that they have difficulty expressing it? Looking forward to our studies! IP: Logged |
VirgoManBrokenHeart unregistered
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posted January 06, 2007 04:14 AM
Dear future_uncertain, Yes by all means. Love at first sight is known to happen, but is rare phenomenon. Love at first sight has something to do with physical attraction & physical beauty. All men regardless of sun sign are attracted to physical beauty, although in it is not important in long term relationship and does not remain important for a long time, but it helps and add up. In my case it took 4 years and even after that I did not realized how much I love her, until I loose her forever……… Love matters but yes we have difficulty in expressing Love moreover the way of expression can be different, try to understand the way he can express his love for example try talking about your problems and troubles with him, your own problems & troubles which have nothing to do with him, love or your relationship with him, for instance try talking about some problem, your younger brother is facing and you will see how concerned he would be. Why do you think that love can only be expressed in words or through flowers? I hope you got some idea! Don’t look for his love in his words or his actions, try to look in his eyes and try to feel his heart and you will find out what you are looking for. Best regards.
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future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 06, 2007 10:46 AM
He and I had a heart to heart last night... initiated by him. I was a bit surprised.He tried to explain that his manifestations of romantic passion revolve around providing security and stability. Do you think this is true, but overlooked with Virgo? I am aware that Virgo is the "sign of service," but it's difficult for those words to sink into my head. Inner dialogue goes like this: What makes him happy? Serving. Yes, but what makes him happy? It's not easy for me to understand someone who is so motivated by serving another's wishes. I keep trying to dig for the desires below that, but come up empty handed. If this is the case, then Virgo happiness inherently revolves around sources outside him/herself because without anyone else there would be no one to serve. So the question that I'm trying to get to the root of is if there were no one else around, what would Virgo want?. My Virgo would say, "You."  IP: Logged |
future_uncertain Knowflake Posts: 193 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 06, 2007 10:50 AM
Oh!And silly me... I did read your post, but forgot to acknowledge that. I'm pretty wrapped up in our "conversation" here so I've reverted to face to face mode and forgotten my forum ettiquette! I certainly hear a gentleness in your words that is so prevalent throughout the Virgo population. Gentle souls who suffer much lonliness, I'm afraid. Please, let's continue our discussion. And if there is any light I can shed into the Sagittarius heart (or just the female heart for that matter) just say the word. Thank you dear VirgoMan.  IP: Logged | |