posted May 09, 2008 03:23 PM            

i have venus conjunct pluto in early scorpio and the moon opposite pluto in taurus - all this to a nearly exact degree and i am not sexually obsessed at all!!!!!

i have strong feelings, thats what it is.

posted May 09, 2008 03:38 PM            

I have Pluto conjunct ascendant and Sun in my chart and my partner's Pluto conjuncts my Sun exactly.
We got together during a Pluto transit (when it squared my Venus and his Mars)... Everything spells obsession, and yes there is a degree of it in our relationship but the intention of this... I consider this relationship to be the most healing relationship I have ever had, I have grown from it. I was obsessed by him at the beginning and we were inseperable and now after breakups (which I feel we needed because we had to redefine our boundaries) we are just as strong and as passionate for each other, even after two babies!

posted May 09, 2008 03:57 PM            

Right on and beautiful story as well. I am currently "obsessed" with someone who is a sun/pluto/uranus/juno conjuncted person all opposite my sun/chiron/saturn/his chiron. I'm with ya...it's intense, but it really feels like it's in a healthy way, as opposed to something that is only attractive because it's got that dangerous appeal.

DD...great research and it really does seem to back up that theory on planets being receptive or "aggressive," for lack of a better word!

Starry...are you talking about your natal or you have these aspects with someone in synastry?

posted May 10, 2008 12:11 PM              

nice to hear from you

ME AND bf have also some Pluto goin on,but i think our sexual attraction comes from the Juno aspects ( Pluto i think that works for us just on the level of power struggles sometimes..)

Pluto sextile and semi sextile Venus
MY Pluto skuare his ASC ( difficult one to deal)

However,we have a

his Venus -my Pluto parallell (0º6) - maybe this also allows the obssession part that sometimes occurs?

MAGI

Juno - venus trine
Juno - Neptune conjunct
Juno - Juno trine
Juno - karma conjunct

posted May 10, 2008 11:44 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted May 11, 2008 09:16 PM              

My point is that synastry always goes both ways.In regards to whether the house person feels it or the planet person feels i think that that question is impossible to answer. Im sure there are lots of relationships out there where only one person feels more attracted whether it be the house person or the planet person.

When it comes to 'obsession' i think i depends hugely on the individuals personalities and their potential for obsessive behaviour. Regardless of what their synastry is like. My partner and i are both passionate/extreme characters as individuals so it is easy for both of us to become obsessed with each other (lots of fire and water mixed together)
Whereas i know a couple who both have very airy temperments as individuals (lots of virgo, aquarius and gemini between them) and they have amazing synastry for passion with lots of pluto,mars,venus in tight orbs from each other but you would never have thought! So the point is again that astrology is not black or white it is a big amazing world of possibilites and complexities. YOu have o look at the big picture especially when it comes to synastry.
Just my 2 cence. Cheers

posted May 22, 2008 10:11 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted May 23, 2008 02:00 AM            

I've read that the 2nd house is what we bring to a sexual relationship, while the 8th house is what we look to our partner to bring.

I don't have any planets in the 8th, but I have Gem on the cusp. Every single guy I've been strongly attracted to sexually has had a strong Mercury. One had Mercury in his first house, every other one had Mercury conjunct his Sun.

My SO not only has Merc conj his Sun, but he has that in his 2nd house. So he's bringing Mercury.

My SO has Neptune in his 8th. I have Neptune conj my Sun in my 2nd house. So I'm bringing what he wants, Neptune.

Thinking more about it, the guy I was least sexually obsessed with is the one who didn't have Merc conj his Sun. I was strongly attracted to him, but our sexual compatibility, although decent, was the lowest. The Merc-Sun guys have all been perfect for me.

So I guess if someone provides what our 8th house is looking for, sexual obsession can develop since they satisfy that house for us.

posted June 18, 2008 03:14 PM            

"Venus seems to be very potent and a strong draw when you have Venus conjunct Node with someone."

posted June 18, 2008 05:36 PM              

the guy i have a crush on and i were born a few days apart and share a stellium of sun/mer/mars in aqua. MY stellium is in my 2nd, and HIS is in his eighth. so in synastry, we fill those houses for one another! woo! but looks like i'd be more of the PROVIDER. good enough for this taurus moon!

posted June 19, 2008 03:49 AM              

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Eros, eros, eros. I know someone with Eros conjunct my Mars, and I can grill pancakes on his bum. He's just too hot!

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ROFL

hihihi heres some non astro stuff on the phenomenon of a "Soul Relationship "....

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The Greek prefix telo means “the end or complete” and philia is Greek for “love or loving.” Thus we can use the word telophilia to represent the highest form of relationship or the union of souls or joint alchemy. So I equate the phenomena of supra-sex with telophilia.

{personal note.. Supra Sex is Tantric sex...it involves Kundalini, twin souls AND removal of all Karmas of all lives}

Note these stages are the classic alchemical stages of soul development. Another name we might call spiritual relationship is psychephilia, as psyche is both “soul” and “butterfly” in Greek and so apply reflects the metamorphic nature of soul union. At one time I found a reference to the word “teleiaphilia” meaning a principled friendship grounded on shared virtue and precepts; which is a philosophical level relationship. Telophilia however is one step beyond that being an empathetic, synergistic relationship of all levels, including soul. These soul-relationships may not include sex but because they amplify kundalini they can be more energetically and intensely intimate and transformative than sexual relationships.

Following is an outline of the stages of soul relationship but to a certain extent all stages happen at once to varying degrees as well.

1. MEETING—Recognition, initiation, surges of energy in the head and solar plexus, enlivening of the genitals. Enlarging of ones field in relation to the other, heightening of alertness and energy level. Irresistible magnetic pull, constancy of attention and soul urge to be in each others presence.
2. QUICKENING—Spiritual acceleration, extreme heart opening, purging, purifying, nausea, awe, hope. Clearing, tidying up loose ends, nest building, talking to oneself, physical exercise to absorb tension. Alternating periods of hyperactivity (sympathetic) with heart expanding lethargy (parasympathetic).
3. RUBBERBANDING—Alternating surrender with periods of sensual indulgence as the ego tries to use and/or suppress the charge. Boundary testing, uncertainty, exploration and resolution of differences. Blowing off the cocoon through compression and expansion.
4. TOLERANCE—Bodymind gains faith, becomes stronger quieter and more peaceful. Learns to protect and allow the intense “opening” energy cycles of soul-merger. Rewiring to handle the amplified energy and kinesthetic senses.
5. SURRENDER—Attraction to spiritual intimacy as soul increasingly incarnates with the opening of the bodymind. There is a letting go of morbid thoughts and behaviors as trust develops. Eros progressively triumphs over Thanatos.
6. TRANSPARENCY—Proactive-YES AND Green-lighting Spirit. With conscious joint metamorphic alchemy there is a movement from deprivation states to co-Being. Sympathetic resonance causes the falling away of resistance and strengthens the ability to “enjoy” love.
7. SUBSTANTIATION—Maintenance of a mature equilibrium of holding the “We Space,” while still sustaining full individuation. Potent, creative, cooperative partnership, mature monogamy-(RAM)

The symptoms of attraction in relationship correspond to those of the metamorphic process and are representative of the two sides of the nervous system in a kind of tango. Normalization of the nervous system can be achieved through walking, deep breathing, toning, movement like Qi gong and immersion in water. This is not to make a problem out of love, for we can enjoy both parasympathetic and sympathetic hypertonal periods, but in order to "assimilate" them comfortably without being triggered into negative coping mechanisms there are a few handy tricks we can use. Incarnation is often hard work, especially if we are used to blocking energies and consciousness from having grown up in dysfunctional environments.

Sympathetic hyperactivation: The stage fright like surges of energy in the solar plexus and high blood pressure in the head can be handled by gentle rhythmic tapping the back over the adrenal glands/kidney area.
Parasympathetic hyperactivation: The heart expansions and low blood pressure of this cycle creates fatigue, weakness in the arms, softening of the neuromusculature and gives a sense of needing to get horizontal. This condition can be eased by repetitive gentle tapping on the chest 1-2 inches below the notch of the clavicles.

How to establish a Telophilius relationship:
First we have to talk about it for many years, then we seriously contemplate it quietly, then we start to imagine it in 3D, then we begin to become "attractive," then we manage to magnetize a perfect polar partner to us, then we enter the honeymoon and think we have found heaven on earth, then we are plunged into the hell realms to feel the full range of our self-betrayal and self-rejection, then we learn we specifically created exactly what we got, then we forgive all creation and especially ourselves, and then at last we enter a true tantric, supra-sexual, metamorphic, alchemical relationship.

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posted June 19, 2008 04:01 AM              

speaking for myself, i would say i m more than obsessed with my twin, i have experienced all the stages above...god the Sexual energy...

we have

Sun - Moon DW ...imo most imp. for sexual alchemy esp. male sun to female moon

chiron - pluto DW....very very powerful..

my venus-chiron to his pluto

my mars his pluto

my pluto hius lilith and karma

Lust conjunct lust

siva conjunct parvati

many more .....cant continue....energy building in my head

posted December 05, 2008 12:22 PM            

I could find her birth time but on that day. the planets formed what so far I would call this sexually obsessive synastry

she has a natal venus pluto sextile which recieves quincunxes from my mars. so we have a yod between venus mars and pluto Im wondering if me being the mars gives me power over her sexually.

aside that we also have my mars parallel her juno both contra-parallel her pluto.

we have a mars juno sextile and and a mars pluto sextile.

my chiron makes a wide trine to her juno.

and my chiron juno conjunction trines her pluto.

it seems we just have alot of sexual connection but we actually have alot of binding aspects as well.. sun saturn both ways merc saturn both ways venus saturn trine

and the part I like the most Venus conjunct and Parallel Chiron.

venusdeindia- do you really think chiron pluto is that important.. we have it and all but i never really gave it special signifance.

me and this girl actually have quite a few quincunxes and mystical triangles.. but unfotunatley not the romantic one like magi says.