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leovirgocusp
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posted February 19, 2007 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I just broke up with my boyfriend who I'd been together for almost 4 years. We had chemsitry and felt like soulmates for each other. He was also my first love. But we have saturn hard aspects in synastry chart.
His Saturn conjunct my Moon
His Saturn square my Mercury
His Saturn square my Jupiter
His Saturn square my Mars
His Saturn square my Asc
His Saturn square my MC

Sadly, there's no my saturn aspecting his personal planets, but just the other way round. Since there are a lot of hard aspects, we work hard together to make this relationship work. But later it's so hard to keep it moving, we fight a lot almost every day. The ending is not beautiful at all, accusing and yelling. Moreover, I have a moon-coujunct-saturn aspect in my natal chart. I wonder if that makes my relationship worse.
Any suggestions are welcome! Is there any chance to win him back?

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leovirgocusp
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posted February 19, 2007 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For more information, here're the rest of the aspects.
His Sun sextile my Moon
His Sun square my Asc

His Moon square my Moon
His Moon opp. my Mercury
His Moon opp. my Mars
His Moon conjunct my Jupiter
His Moon sextile my Uranus
His Moon trine my Asc.

His Mercury trine my Sun
His Mercury conjunct my Neptune
His Mercury sextile my Neptune

His Venus square my Sun
His Venus sextile my Jupiter
His Venus sextile my Asc.

His Mars sextile my Sun

His Jupiter trine my Sun

His Uranus trine my Mercury
His Uranus trine my Asc.

HIs Neptune trine my Sun

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jenfullmoon
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posted February 20, 2007 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't know about whether or not you could get him back- my attempts at predictive astrology have pretty much gone nowhere in life, so I won't try.

However...all those squares, OUCH. I can see why you'd be attracted to him if in synastry, you have the same combination as in your natal. I've done that too. You're used to dealing with that energy.

But all the squares (especially Mars and Saturn, which is pretty well argumentative, and Mercury, which isn't great for communication either) makes things very difficult. His Saturn squaring/conjunct a lot of your chart must have made it very hard on you. Binding, but difficult. No bloody wonder you fight all the time. Moon square Moon is pretty difficult as well (I have it with my mother and emotionally, we're total opposites).

Honestly, maybe you're better off splitting. It sounds like this relationship is filled with stress. I sort of have the impression that the sextiles and trines aren't drowning out/reliving the stressors in your relationship much. If I was in a relationship where I was fighting every single day with the guy...well, that's my personal nightmare! I grew up in that kind of situation- my parents did that- and it's hell.

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leovirgocusp
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posted February 20, 2007 02:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yah, jenfullmoon, like you said, this relationship is binding, but not in a good way. We both know that it's really hard to call it quit. But things get messier than ever. The worst thing is I just found out he's dating my girlfriend (my high school buddy) and hiding for like a month. As you can see, there're a lot of his saturn hard aspecting my personal planets. I wonder how saturn person feels on this relationship. For me, I felt like I'd been suffocated during that hard time and I tried to work things out, but just useless. And also he seemed like relaxed and watched what I did so hard and even didn't give a damn. By the way, he's capricorn and the girlfriend who he cheated with is also a capricorn. I'm a leo-virgo cusp. No need to say, the first year of our love life was so wonderful and everything's going smooth.
There're some things I would like to know.. I read somewhere that saturn person is the most fearful and vanerable one in the relationship. But in my case, he seems so relaxed and seems like nothing serious happens to him. Just me suffering all this s***.
Here is my question.
1. Is saturn person the one who is most vulnerable one?
2. As a leo-virgo cusp, why do I always attracted to capricorn?

any suggestions are welcome!

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Shining Ray
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posted February 20, 2007 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shining Ray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn Conjunct Moon

A Fated Contact:

This is an important interaction, but unfortunately not for the most cheerful of reasons. Whereas one of you the "lunar" person, expresses their feelings only too naturally, the other "saturine" person has a commensurately difficult time expressing their feelings. The writing on the wall with this contact is saying that both of you have an important lesson to learn from each other. The "lunar" person needs to discipline their emotions and be more mature, less childish in this area. The "Saturine" person on the other hand, could take some lessons from the "lunar" person in how to live up to their emotional potential. The trouble here is that the "lunar" person feels suppressed or chilled by what is really the "saturines" inadequacy in this respect, for in the face of the "lunar" persons emotional ease, they feel awkward and in need of changing their behavior. And so a downward spiral is only too likely if the two of you are not emotionally very objective.

For this to happen there would certainly have to be a good supply of mutually loving and caring interactions present also, because this interaction certainly doesn't fit that bill. This has been called a "fated contact" because it is quite timely in the sense of both people having to become more conscious of free-flowing feelings on the part of the "lunar" person, and in inhibitions on the part of the "Saturine" person.

Family responsibilities and domestic arrangements can very likely be an area for these lessons and difficulties to surface, as too can the "saturines" individual's professional duties getting in the way of the "lunar" persons needs, and vice versa. Having said all this, if the writing on the wall is read and obeyed, a very stable and mutually responsible, though possibly somewhat sober, relationship can be established.

Hope this helps a little this is an interpretation from my book. Maybe this interpretation also explains why you feel he is so relaxed, do you mean because he is not showing his emotions, while you feel you are the only one suffering here. This aspect would definitely explain the reason for this.

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Shining Ray
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posted February 20, 2007 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shining Ray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For Moon Conjunct Saturn natally - Your better nature is certainly tried and tested by unloving or less charitable influences. One of these could well have been a coldness or separation between you father and mother. Such has left you with an ingrained feeling that the world is cold and unfeeling. If you are to avoid being dogged by this negative conditioning, or being cold and unfeeling yourself, you must learn to be more objective and take life's blows a lot less personally.

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jenfullmoon
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posted February 20, 2007 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jenfullmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the non-Saturn person feels it more. Like the Saturn person is your father when he's really mad at you, kind of thing.

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DayDreamer
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posted February 20, 2007 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah the one whose planets are being aspected by the other person's saturn is the one who feels the limitations, difficulties, loneliness, depression,or whatever saturn squares brings.

So its useless trying to be in or keep a relationship with saturn squares, eh?

Curious if theres anyone on here thats in a satisfying, longterm relationship even with a few Saturn squares to personal planets in their synastry.????

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DayDreamer
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posted February 20, 2007 11:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this through google....Saturn in Synastry

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000809.html

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leovirgocusp
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posted February 21, 2007 02:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shining Ray...Your interpretation exactly tells what I'm feeling right now. He didn't show his emotions at all. Even when I confronted him like he's really hurt, but he just said he didn't mind at all, he's ok, bluh bluh bluh.. Acutally I want some openess and emotional intimacy but I got only coldness and narrow-mindness from him. Anyway, our relationship is over now and I know that there's no way to win him back. But somewhere inside, I still hope to get him back.
Briefly said, the first three and a half years of our love life was fantastic, so much talking, both helping each other, a lot of understanding. But 4 months before our break-up, at one time he overly critized my work (actually a paper) and I can't stand his verbal attack so I argued with him and cried in front of him. I told him that I also had my own thoughts and he shouldn't overly critize my work.. you know.. After this happened, he kind of withdrew from me and acting cold. Whenever I showed him my work next time, he just ignored and said like "you didn't need my suggestions, your work is already darn good. etc".. But he's always besides me when I needed him, but remained cold. Since then, we aruged and fought. The worst thing is we couldn't seem to have a casual conversation. This realationship was really a nightmare to me.
I've seen quite numbers of synastry charts and saw saturn hard aspects. But they have both saturn aspecting.. I mean both person have saturn aspects to each other (either hard one or harmony one). But in my case, only his saturn aspects to my personal planets and all are hard aspects. That is totally horrible happened to me. I wonder how do I become entering this relationship? but this relationship was really binding and besides his cheating, he helped me to mature and open my eyes to some areas which I didn't know. He really is a great guy and cares me a lot. I miss those old times... FYI, we decided to remain friends right now.

For moon-conj-saturn aspects in my natal chart, as Shining Ray said, I didn't have a great childhood. Cos my dad left to US since I was 5 years old and our family reunited when I was 19 years old in US. So it had been 14 years I hadn't met my dad. Needless to say, both my parents are very faithful and never heard of them having a fling or whatsoever.

Just curious did any of you see a synastry having a one-sided saturn hard aspects to other personal planets?

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Shining Ray
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posted February 21, 2007 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Shining Ray     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When we all break up from relationships all the good memories of the relationship always seem to come flooding back, we wish the relationship could return to the way it used to be when we felt close to our partner, when we could laugh together, when there was respect for each others feelings. Your relationship seemed to be good for quite a while before the trouble began. Usually I have found in relationships you show the best of yourself for at least a couple of years and then you kinda get comfy in the relationship, and your insecurities, or fears, or overly critical side begins to show, you bring in your emotional baggage from childhood.

I think you were highly intuitive picking out your natal Moon/Saturn aspect and the aspect you share with your ex boyfriend. I think the two are linked in that they are bringing up your old familiar/family patterns from childhood. You were separated from your father at such a young age, it must have caused you to feel very unhappy not being able to see your father. I think sometimes when we enter into relationships, and if we didn't have a great childhood we can re-create the childhood scene again by unconsciously choosing a partner who will bring up all those same childhood issues/feelings and emotions, that is why we are so drawn to them in the first place.

The relationship with your partner probably brings up similar themes from your childhood. With not having your father there for you as a child, you seem to be chasing after the affections of a man who is cold and is not showing you the care you need. Possibly like the distant relationship you had with your Dad.

It can be very painful going through a breakup as it can bring up a lot of painful emotions. Plus all the dreams and expectations you have of the relationship and all the plans you had made together for the future are all gone, and it can be a massive loss. Make sure you are looking after yourself, and cry as much as you need to, you need to let all of these emotions out of your system. Concentrate on your own pain, it might look like your ex is cold and doesn't care, but if he finds it hard to show his emotions he is not going to cry in front of you, he will probably cry in private but needs to put on a brave face. I think you need plenty of time to grieve for the loss of this relationship.

Take good care of yourself.

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posted August 15, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this always the case with Moon conjunct Saturn? The Saturn person being cold towards the Moon person? I have this with someone in synastry and I have no problem expressing my feelings. He's the one who seems rather cold with emotion. I believe he has Moon square Venus in his natal chart. His Moon falls in my 4th house so maybe this is why I feel comfortable expressing my emotions to him.

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posted August 16, 2016 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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