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hanakin
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posted May 29, 2009 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes in Paul 's book they are listed as one of the only couples who really seem to have been together and gotten together not involving any progression but more like love sure and simple...

Is the conjunction between a personal planet and someone's ascendant that strong?

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posted June 01, 2009 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, yes, it was Sun-ASC.


Well, Paul said himself that it only works in about 80% of the cases for conventional relationships.

There are of course relationships that also get formed during Venus-mars-square or similiar aspects (often they are pretty stormy, passionate and somewhat dysfunctional); it also depends on what you expect to find in a relationship and are looking out for.


Apart from that I have to repeat, with the adding of the angles (ASC as Mars-point, DSC as Venus-point), I havenīt seen it fail even once.
I mean: every relationship that came into existence had at least one of these aspects during their beginning.


And yes,personal planets to ASC are THAT important.


ALSO, this theory doesn`t say anything about the likeness of a lasting relationship; it just states that certain aspects are usually / often present when a relationship begins. That`s all.

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DD hope this isn't too far off-topic. i noticed your question in IQ's ?? thread about bride-groom asteroids...the closest i found to bride was briede - is that what you use or is there an actual bride asteroid?

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posted June 01, 2009 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, it`s the one we use.
Asteroids, that have a "close" sound, seem to work like the actual word, too.

Yet, I have noticed far stronger patterns with Groom and Boda, than aspects to Briede, even if they are present.

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I`m still not completely sure which meaning and significance these "two rocks in space" actually have.

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well briede seems to fit well in my chart - it's conjunct my ex husbands sun and opposite that of someone else - and groom conjuncts both their jupiters (ex hubby's pretty wide really) and my vesta.........
does boda have mythological significance of some kind? doesn't ring a bell for me!

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posted June 01, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, those aren`t mythological asteroids.

Boda means marriage (in Spanish I think)

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bingo! you're right. marriage or wedding, in spanish! thanks...

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posted June 01, 2009 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Metatron     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey DD

How about mars on someones DC in progressions? I have my directed mars on the girls natal DC. Would that count as mars/venus contact??

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posted June 02, 2009 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I would count it.

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posted June 04, 2009 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey DD,

thanks for your input, yeah I've read about the paul mccartney and linda love story quite unbelievable they were attached at the hips.


Now talking of squares between lovers Ava Gardner and Frank Sinatra...dysfunctional.

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posted June 04, 2009 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, those two really were dysfunctional.


Well, there are other reasons Paul and LInda were so close; I think if I remember it right they had strong aspects between important houserulers.

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posted June 04, 2009 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hanakin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I once tried to have a normal relationship with a guy with whom the synastry was fantastic.

But in natal I have venus opposition mars, it really bored me after two weeks.

I ended it.

I think i'm much more prone to being attracted to dysfunctional sh..! :-(


i'm going to try and post their synastry (paul and linda).

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posted June 18, 2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 20, 2009 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey DD! are you counting transits to the natal and progressed charts as well? meaning, transits when the relationship started? if so, we have several of these!! remarkable.

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posted June 21, 2009 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Woah City,

transits were not part of Westran`s study.

BUT personally I think transits may be the exact timers.
The progressions will be valid for quite some time, and maybe transits show the most likely moments for a relationship to occur.

I haven`t researched that though.

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posted June 22, 2009 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well, there are other reasons Paul and LInda were so close; I think if I remember it right they had strong aspects between important houserulers.

Additionally, Paul was born on the 18th, ruled by Mars, and Linda was born on the 24th, ruled by Venus. Classic Male-Female dynamic.

They were connected on many different levels.

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posted June 23, 2009 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just discovered this thread, (so I haven't read everyone's posts) ... Can we include the Moon?....
The progressed Moon aspecting the other's natal ascendant for example.
In my case my ascendant is Libra though, maybe that has Venus influence.

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posted June 23, 2009 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quinnie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just checked it again and in my chart... progressed Venus conjunct my natal ascendant by teo degrees when my relationship with my partner started. His progressed Moon was on my ascendant too.

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posted June 23, 2009 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Paul Westran didn`t include Moon-aspects. I guess mainly because the birthtime was not certain in some cases.

Another reason could be that Moon might relate more to an emotional connection, but not necessarily a romantic relation.

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posted October 21, 2009 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump for JChristine...

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posted October 21, 2009 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have just discovered this thread, (so I haven't read everyone's posts) ... Can we include the Moon?....
The progressed Moon aspecting the other's natal ascendant for example.
In my case my ascendant is Libra though, maybe that has Venus influence.

In my own experience I tend to attract a lot of pMoon in Gemini (my Sun) & pMoon in Virgo (my ascendant)

I say yes, the moon is indicative of bringing people together.

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posted October 21, 2009 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EighthMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read on Westran's site that he does include moon only when he is certain of birthtime.

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hi 8Moon

someone was looking for these too on the astrology2 hihihi

thank you!

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posted March 30, 2010 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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