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CrankyCap
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posted March 06, 2007 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all true. I think I tried to end things with my Pisces 2 or 3 times due to our bad timing and circumstances...each time he looked so hurt and confused, and each time he'd say that he didn't want to end it. Then, when HE finally made the decision, he turned it around on me and acted as if I was the vulnerable one, and that was why he'd waited so long. UGH!!! That infuriated me. But of course, just a couple weeks ago he called me persistently several times during the middle of the night. I never picked up, and didn't return the calls. Right, now who looks vulnerable??? Hey, I've got venus in Scorp...I DON'T play these BS games. Pisces can't stand to be straightforward and completely honest, yet it really bothers them when they think they've hurt someone. I have a hard time respecting that logic.

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posted March 06, 2007 07:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that must be why my dad said i have no game - i hate this kind of crap LOL

You either like me or you don't - must be a female leo thing

yes heaven FORBID you don't answer when they call - then they keep calling or emailing until you answer.

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posted March 06, 2007 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, I've got a Leo ascendant myself...and mercury in Sag. We have waaaay too much pride to give in to foolish games. I tell it like it is, and unfortunately I expect everyone else to do the same...but it doesn't always work out that way. I'd much rather be hurt by honesty than deception. I'll never lose respect for someone if they're always 100% honest with me.

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posted March 06, 2007 07:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so true CrankyCap
say what you mean - mean what you say

someone else on this board mentioned becuase I am leo with aries I have NO patience for this crap LOL - we're too straight forward.

Maybe that's part of the problem LOL


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posted March 06, 2007 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right. I'm sure you have patience, just not for BS! LOL...

You know soconfused, Lucille Ball was a Leo. Desi Arnaz was a Pisces. She always said that he was the love of her life, but that she didn't regret divorcing him. She said she just couldn't take it anymore! LOL... Yeah, I think we can all relate to that!

I've never been more physically attracted to anyone in my life more than that Pisces, but his unreliability and insincerity totally cancelled it out!

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posted March 06, 2007 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I did know that - I read in some synastry book and those are the 2 people we relate to -

book was a little confusing though - says it was goof for marriage, and love but not romance or something like that - which doesn't make sense

I guess you gave up your pisces?

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posted March 06, 2007 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote: yes heaven FORBID you don't answer when they call - then they keep calling or emailing until you answer.

Oh my god thats so funny! My pisces took it one step further though. We used to delete one anothers numbers from our phones when we were trying to stay away from each other. My pisces would get over it and text my friends repeated in the middle of the night to get my number and keep texting til someone replied.
It got too much when he was doing it to my friend every night for a week and she was in hospital after having her baby prematurely. She wasn't impressed and my other friend just ignored him.
I always answer, I see no point in not answering him. The one time I didn't was cos I dropped my phone in my friends garden. I thought it was over well and truly cos he ignored me at the pub and I hooked up with a hot young blond got my phone back the next day and there were heaps of texts and voice mails from him.
Served him right really.

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posted March 06, 2007 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, I would say I gave him up. I was so pis*ed off when he called a couple weeks ago. I was doing so well moving on and forgetting about him...and then he shows up again. Most likely he was wasted too, which made it so disrespectful, IMO, that he called me after almost two months at 3AM...then again at 4AM...and again at 6AM. I mean, WTH did he expect??? The sad thing is that the guy is 34 years old! You have to grow up sometime! 3AM booty call is what that looked like to me - even though he's in another state now. I MIGHT have called him back if he had called at a decent hour...

I do miss him sometimes, but once I was out of the relationship and able to reflect on it with some clarity, I just don't think it was healthy for me...for many reasons. I really lost myself in him way too much, and allowed him to manipulate me into doing anything he wanted - even things I was uncomfortable with. So yeah, when I look back on it now, it really doesn't leave me with a warm, fuzzy feeling. It's best for me that it's over.

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posted March 06, 2007 08:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
geez , mine's not that bad LOL

but you're right - serves em right LOL

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posted March 06, 2007 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mine never calls that late but he thinks nothing of waiting until I get home to ask me to come over .... I work 15 minutes from his house but live 35 away

sorry that seems so painful for you Cranycap

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posted March 06, 2007 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It really was at first...I wouldn't even talk to anyone about it for weeks, but it isn't so bad now. Just took me a while to sort it out...

Yeah, that moon-sun conjunction that everyone always says is so perfect...well, it SEEMS perfect, but I really felt like I lost my identity a little. Didn't think about anything but him all day, every day. Didn't care about anything else either...

I just know that no good could come from me talking to him. I'd only get hurt, and probably worse this time. That's the "earth" in me...telling me to be realistic and safe.

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posted March 06, 2007 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ya me too - when I was talking to him every day - that was ALL I thought about - but now since I rarely talk to him, I rarely think about him

I'm trying to figure out more of our synasty and maybe if this is a karmic relationship - it just weighs so heavy on me , but the weird part is I don't feel sad. I kinda feel indifferent

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posted March 06, 2007 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd just like to add that my ex was a leo and we were together for 7 years. I don't talk about it much cos I can honestly say I was never truly in love with him.

Things I noticed as a pisces being in a relationship with a leo (my daughter's leo too so I've experienced it a lot) is I can never undertsand the constant need for praise, reassurance and attention.
I give all that to my daughter but there's no way I'd give it to him every 5 minutes. He used to do the dishes once every 6 months and actually tell me to come and look when he was finished. lol.

-Don't expect verbal expressions of love,
-don't expect public displays of affection,
-don't assume when he's hiding in his head or talking with his friends he's plotting ways to leave you.
-Realise the little things is how he shows his love (if he feeds you or makes sure you're not too hot/cold)
-You'll never understand him, not ever
-He'll drive you nuts with his indecisiveness yet resent it if you make up his mind for him.

Hope this helps.

Crankycap-
Those 4 & 6am calls when he's in another state aren't booty calls. There not even booty calls if he had've been 5 miles away (although they can often turn out that way, lol) I just don't think they have any concept of time, if they're awake and thinking about you then you must be awake.
Alcohol is a shocker for that though.
I used to get ****** off by the same thing, although I did it to him too though.
He just misses you.

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posted March 06, 2007 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The mutual aspects to saturn would tell you whether or not it's karmic. Astrologynotes.org has a section under synastry about karmic relationships that tells you what aspects to look for.

I don't know if I believe it though...lol. I have a taurus ex that I feel, and have always felt, that I have a karmic connection too...always felt very "fated" and still does. We didn't have any of the aspects listed though... We broke up 5 years ago, but I can honestly say that all he'd have to do is snap his fingers and be with him in a second. Another "hurt" that I battle with all the time!

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posted March 06, 2007 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks OzMeg That does make me feel a little better about it. It's definitely difficult, but the situation being what it is...it just doesn't seem like there would be any point in contacting him. If he was here, it would be different...but then again, if he was here things would have played out differently all together.

Think I'm just doomed to be haunted by past loves forever!! lol...

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posted March 06, 2007 08:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a constant need for attention like most leos - most people that know me know I hate being the center of attention

I do however require some assurance now and then that I'm not wasting my time.

He is considerate - he always makes sure I'm comfortable and that I should call him when I get home late from his house.

so they don't EVER say they love you or kiss you in public?

and why is it that I will never understand him - because he doesn't understand himself?

That was really helpful Ozmeg - thank you


CrankyCap - my worst hurt was an Aries - and he acts a lot like this Pisces sometimes so I think that's what's got me being cautious

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posted March 06, 2007 09:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok this topic has gone too far I am here in defense of all the pisces men around the world, cue the trumpets. Can pisces men run hot and cold at times, yes, usually when they have not been given enough time to recharge their batteries. Can pisces men be indecisive about a simple question, yes they can be, because they have the caring and ability to look at all sides of the question, and how it may affect everyone involved, not just themselves. The bit about indecisiveness, is very accurate, it drives my girlfriend crazy(she is taurus), so you can only imagine how much it drives someone who is earth. In complete honesty we do not do it because we choose to, it is because we think of all the alternatives, and how the decision could effect the outcome in so many ways. I am always sensitive to her as well, so when she asks me a question I think about how the answer is going to affect her, which is the WRONG thing to do. I am not saying by any means not to consider your partners feelings, but if you know that you retracting and switching back and forth on your decision will drive them crazy, you might as well be a little selfish and give them the answer YOU really want and not think about how its going to effect them. That is how I personally become indecisive in my relationship. I think us pisces people have to be more selfish at times, but in a good way, so it makes us seem not as wishy washy about our responses. Can pisces tell little white lies to avoid subjects or to end conversations, oh yes they can, once again though, because they just don't want to go there or it is going to be draining to them(especially if they have checked out mentally to recharge while with someone else). As far as the rest goes, I have never met a woman from my past that doesn't have great things to say about me, because I was so caring and thoughtful with every woman I have been in a relationship with. I always had to end my relationships because I could never try and be mean so they would break up with me, I am just way too mature for that type of behavior. I think my problem at times as a pisces male in the past was picking more social work cases for girlfriends, people I could help out, or make better through a relationship, and then once I got into the relationship you can imagine how hard it was for me to get out. Pisces are some of the most thoughtful, compassionate, loving, and dedicated people you will ever find, you just have to realize the basic aspects about them, and understand why they do what they do. In every relationship I have been in, women usually suspect that I am cheating or they get real curious because of m drifting away at times and not being detailed about what I was doing. I am jealous of my private world I like to go and dream, and it seems that every woman wants to go there and be with me where ever I may wander. That is very frustrating for us pisces as well. To all of you that are dating or thinking about dating a pisces, prepare to give them time alone, and always remember, no matter how they act, they are extremely sensitive to your words and care deeply for you if they have committed to you. Any more questions about pisces men please direct your responses here I wish everyone would give a little description about the tough aspects of their sun sign like I just did! Well I could specialize on Taurus women as well Hope this helps to those who are frustrated with pisces men. Always love thy fish, and remember there are always two fish swimming in the opposite direction.

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posted March 06, 2007 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG Yes! The Pisces reminded me of the Taurus right off the bat. The relationship ended because of a very similar circumstance too. I told the Pisces I thought that I was cursed. It's weird...sometimes my mind trails off between one guy to the other...

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posted March 06, 2007 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrankyCap     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW Neptune! Way to come in like a bulldozer!!! LOL... Must be that Aries Venus of yours! Very good description though...way to be objective...as only a good pisces can!

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posted March 06, 2007 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neptunewinds-

I'm pisces so everything I say about my pisces I say about myself, lol. We're so similar its been a learning experience.

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posted March 06, 2007 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OzMeg222     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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so they don't EVER say they love you or kiss you in public?

and why is it that I will never understand him - because he doesn't understand himself?

If he says he loves you can be very very sure he means it. As for the public displays, only when drunk. lol.
And he may understand himself, but things change and ideas come and go so what you thought his opinion on something was, has changed dramatically with new information received. It won't change his core personality though. Remember pisces is always 'fluid of personality'.

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posted March 06, 2007 09:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow neptne ! I'll have to read this carefully and back to you.

I'm just trying to understand yet protect myself at the same time - no worries - I'm not bashing the Pisces - I just have never had 1 in my life.

and Ozmeg - he did say in the begining that he liked me very much - so I guess that is all I will get for now. LOL

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posted March 06, 2007 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
defend thy fish, I must! I am not getting heated at anyone, just want to give a nice objective view point so everyone can get a feel for what is going on inside those fishy heads I hope everyone has a wonderful night and that was a pretty funny comment about my venus in aries cranky, is that what thrust me forth to make my claim?

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posted March 07, 2007 01:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bravo Neptunewinds

Everything is right on spot and match with my thoughts (I guess similar placements Pisces Sun, Sagi rising, except for my Aries moon); except for below

** I am jealous of my private world I like to go and dream, and it seems that every woman wants to go there and be with me where ever I may wander. That is very frustrating for us pisces as well. **

Yes I won't share all thoughts with everyone. Only if, I am committed I want the person to be with me, in each and every dream/thought Maybe its due to some other aspect (IV house Sun/Merc/Venus).
I personally believe sharing each and every thought with the person I love and who also loves me.
I wouldn’t share all my thoughts if I am not fully committed to a person (Pisces shyness).
Yes, there are some thoughts which I won’t share, even with the person I love, until I am fully convinced that the other person has fully submitted to me (trusts me with the entire being). Its like testing someone, with some high inner ideals.

Again I think the unspoken thoughts will mostly not be something which is going to cause harm to someone, if not shared.

Anyways, I just ignore all the Pisces bashing that goes on ...many times with the thoughts of - ‘aren’t we so complex’ followed by letting it go with the flow...

Soconfused,
Hope everything turns out fine for you. I guess Leo impatience and jealousy might be adding fuel to the situation.

CrankyCap,
Sigh … think he really wants you to disturb you at night. I guess he is trying not to leave any stone unturned. Anyways you are the best person to know what the situation is…

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posted March 07, 2007 02:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry for my above post when I said "I am jealous of my private world I like to go and dream", let me rephrase that, I am selfish with my private world, where I go and dream, and I do not share it with everyone, no matter how close I am to them. Well at least not yet. It is harmless to the other person, it just allows us pisces to retreat to a place where everything is innocent and soft, basically our reality at times. It also gives us a beautiful time to recharge our psychic batteries. I could not imagine life without that place where we can retreat into our own imaginations and not be disturbed, it is truly sacred to me as a pisces.

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