posted March 07, 2007 04:35 AM              

Having been with a Leo woman (with a Virgo moon, no less), I can say that Leo's love-you-when-I-have-time thing can be great if you have the patience and the inclination to get comfortable with the reality of such a relationship, instead of the ideal of what might be spiritual romance. It runs into trouble when you have me-me-me-all-the-damn-time Venus in Aries and unconsciously come across as needy and unindependant when said Leo can't/won't return your affection at a consistently high rate. A lack of respect = a lack of relationship. If you understand this, you become anxious to avoid it. Then you blow hot and cold.

I think the Leo man/Pisces woman is an easier match; the Leo woman is in some way seeking an independant and emotionally invulnerable partner, in my experience. Whilst Pisces can be independant, they can also demonstrate (however spectacularly) emotional insecurity outside this ideal of spiritual romance. Until we find a hot, female version of Buddha who already 'gets' us, we'll keep on making Leo women go 'Ugh' in threads like this.

Anyway, that's my take on this one.

posted March 07, 2007 07:44 AM              

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I think my problem at times as a pisces male in the past was picking more social work cases for girlfriends, people I could help out, or make better through a relationship, and then once I got into the relationship you can imagine how hard it was for me to get out.

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posted March 07, 2007 09:03 AM            

I pisces men!

I've never met one I haven't liked and gotten along with extremely well (I've know a few over the years) and now I'm in love with one.
Sigh.
Its like being in love with myself though, we mirror each others good AND bad behaviour. At least I can see whats happening and can do something about it, it also gives me a better understanding of where he's coming from. Being friends with male pisceans is so much easier but I wouldn't trade my double pisces for ANYONE.

posted March 07, 2007 12:10 PM              

and thank you for this thread, yes he can be VERY aggrevating at time, being evasive and blurry, as i would say, but i've learn to control my Leo moon for immediate directness, and just give him time to come to me and feel free to express himself when he wants to.

posted March 08, 2007 07:27 PM            

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Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer

posted March 08, 2007 09:49 PM              

Neptunewinds - thank you so much for the insight - I love the part where you always said you couldn't be mean to end your relationships - that gave me a huge insight - he had mentioned that he just hung around in a loveless relationship for a very long time just becuase he didn't want to hurt her by breaking up with her. Which seems noble but at the same time , I kind of worry if I get seriously involved with him if he would do the same - I would rather be told flat out that you're not happy - you know.. don't beat around the bush.

But can you elaborate on this please? Pisces are some of the most thoughtful, compassionate, loving, and dedicated people you will ever find, you just have to realize the basic aspects about them, and understand why they do what they do.

what are those basic aspects and how do I understand?

I want to know because he is so unhappy right now and I feel like everything I say is wrong , and I am trying to choose my words VERY wisely. I have left him alone today and probably will for the next few days.

I think part of the problem was I didn't trust him in the beginning and he wanted to know so much and I was guarded, I think that put him off- but that has nothing to do with why he is unhappy.

Villy - I'm not impatient per se but I hate games - my philosophy is you either like me or you don't and I NEVER display jealousy - I learned that one a lomg time ago LOL

Solar third - I am not a me - me -me kind of person at all - anyone that knows me says I am generous to a fault and would anything for someone in need and I HATE to be the center of attention (not sure which planet in my chart that is from) most people never peg me as a leo.

I am a very independant woman and I think that bothers him a little - he likes to open doors and stuff like that

He was more open with me than I was with him - I'm very guarded - must be that leo pride

Everyone is insecure at times and I try to support him but he seems to hate that so I have stopped LOL - I just nod or say ok, or that's unfortunate. I'm at a loss for words.

In my opinion the reason I'm going UGH is because I always do that with men LOL - I have no "man sense" if that makes any sense. I have been blessed with many things, that was not one of them.

I guess I need to control my immediate directness.

Libra's choice - I agree - Aries men are hot but this Pises has brought me to places I haven't been before - I put the Pisces ahead of the 3 aries I've had -
Hmm lets see If i had to put them in order starting with the best
Pisces
Aries
Leo
Aquarius
Virgo
Gemini

Thanks to everyone for their insight

posted March 08, 2007 10:25 PM              

I know everything will work out as it should - I won't be heartbroken if it doesn't - I just feel connected to him in some strange way

But I can imagine staying in a relationship that makes me unhappy just so the other person will be ok - that needs some explaining.

posted March 09, 2007 01:39 AM            

It's very very very important though that they manage to have their own emotional inner world that doesn't depend on some outer supply of sex/emotion/alcohol/drugs or any other mind altering substance/experience.. and that they find that inner balance. That's when true spirituality comes out in Pisces.
You have to learn to see the beauty in reality (even when it seems to ugly to look at) to get to that spiritual depth Neptune is capable of.

It makes me wish I could help when I see the stray Pisces.. motherly instinct kicks in.. but it's up to everyone individually. It’s very hard to let go though, specially with my Pisces Jupiter (and Merc).. If I’d have a wand that could instantaneously make all Pisceans in the world happy, I’d be stoked.

posted March 09, 2007 02:16 AM              

I can't believe the Pisces bashing. I don't think their is anything wrong with being hot and cold. There's always a internal or external reason for it. It's just our personal philosophies that make us sooooooo weird. Well, maybe for me. I am a Pisces Sun and a Sag. moon. So I definately blow hot and cold because I think so dag much, which might have to do with my 12H aquarius.

Relationships kind of freak me out, but once commited I am commited. Unfortunately, I have dated my fair share of Geminis. They are actually wonderful, but they stress me out. AND don't let them have a cancer moon! They are the epitome of "hot and cold."

posted March 09, 2007 06:14 AM              

12-10 Pisces/Capricorn
The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces a pleasant, sweet-tempered outlook most of the time. There is a blending of emotional sensitivity and intuitive perception of Pisces, with the conservatism, deep ambition and prudence of Capricorn. The Pisces personality is naturally shy and sensitive; Capricorn is a natural introvert. Yet when combined, Capricorn tends to provide a degree of confidence, drive, and strength of purpose, without being overly materialistic and shallow. Though you have your feet planted solidly on the ground, your sensitivity and capacity for sympathy enable you to avoid materialism. You want to get somewhere in life, but without appearing pushy or too determined. Subtlety is your style and method. Success comes from combining your inner intuitive perceptiveness with outward practicality, responsibility and integrity. You are practical, realistic, objective and persevering. Organization is specialty, perhaps even your fetish. There is a serious note in your nature making you keenly aware of duties and responsibilities. Financial affairs may play an important role in your life and progress can depend on sound handling of financial affairs and avoiding the insecurities of indebtedness. The personal qualities of prudence and caution increase self-restraint and encourage control of the restless and emotional tendencies of your nature. Your desires for prominence, social and business distinction proves a powerful incentive in your field of activity. You can achieve these goals after you have clearly visualized what you desire to achieve, as your success depends on concentrated effort. A good manager, you can easily see the big picture and prefer dealing with the whole rather the detail of the parts. You have a tendency to underrate yourself and worry much too much.

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soconfused>Could be transit-related. I can't say for sure. Mutual support is required. If he says he hates being supported, then he has problems. Perhaps you should start to let him open some doors for you. Chivalry should never die! lol

neptunewinds> I couldn't give you an opinion on either Taureans or Scorpions, as I've never been romantically involved with either species. I do share a home with a Scorpio sun Pisces moon woman, however, and that can be hard work as she can be very self-conscious and indecisive - especially when it comes to her wardrobe, which I end up choosing for her most evenings from the demented catwalk that is our lobby. Mostly though, we're fluid and never argue about anything other than green bag vs. red bag . . .

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