posted April 25, 2007 10:40 AM              

Do this and you're on you're way to bag him. If he wants to see you dressed 'Like A Virgin' then he is definately interested in you.

Do it tastefully. And tell him these pics are ONLY for him, no one else may see them.

posted April 25, 2007 11:24 AM              

Im a male Virgo and i had a lot of fun reading this thread, and readinh the book Linda wrote about sun signs ( specially the virgo of course).

Beowulf whenever i read your posts about Virgos i just cant help on having a big smile!
i know you´re a virgo so your sense of humour is always bit ironic,dark and sascastis ( so as mine) and i like that.

you´re right saying "Virgos are terrified of making mistakes. Perfect people don't make mistakes do they!! They are also sentimentalists and hopeless romantics."

but i do not agree with you concerning virgos and long distance relationships.Im a Virgo (with libras asc), he´s a Libra with venus in Virgo and we do have a long distance ( living about 300 km away).
im the one who deals better with distance,he´s the one who´s always wanting me to move with him together.
We trust and respect each other very much,and are exclusive to each other.
Im the one who made the 1st move in all aspects, with him wanting to do it, but concerning about not making a mistake ( thought that i could think he was getting too much ahead so fast)..
Concering sex,youre right,Virgo´s are great lovers, but libra are also great and when exists deep intimacy, it can go for long periods of love making.

Concerning marriage, youre also right.Virgo´s do not go for a relationship thinking it could not be the one.I find myself saying i love him right after i met him ( that´s not usual in me) or in him,though.
it´s funny but when you´re talking about marriage, i see him more a "virgo" than me hihi,wanting to go faster and faster and faster.
It seems it takes to much trouble to make a Virgo real love you,but it´s worth to.
im not saying this because im a virgo, i just think that nowadays,having a person who really wants a serious commitment,it´s loyal,truthfull and willing to do all it can to make the other happy, it´s just amazing.
Me and my bf thinks that way and maybe that+s why we attracted each other. We´ve felt very lonely and diferent from others,and when we met we knew it´s going to be serious,no matter the distance.

posted April 25, 2007 05:06 PM              

Moondreamer...im not very familiar to the english/american language ---but talking about the L word..sounds to me the "I love You "

posted April 26, 2007 06:28 AM              

Lynx,
I am quite impressed by the way to reacted to the situation. You have a lot of character! You've got my respect.

Beowulf,
Thank you so much for your posts! I really needed an objective opinion. You have given me a solid and wise advice and I will take it. Your explanations make a lot of sense and I can see things more clearly now.

**details deleted**

posted April 26, 2007 07:50 AM              

I was just about to respond to your post... but it's gone. Care to repost so I can answer your questions.

I'm not always around to answer straight away.

posted April 26, 2007 01:02 PM            

I'm sorry...I was impulsive and deleted the post.

I guess I should start from the beginning. I had dealt with a double sag guy for 6 months, and after that a friend of mine suggested that I try the online thing (she is a gemini lol) anyway I met him. He seemed to be exactly what I wanted, and needed and it was as I thought likewise with him. Well he is older than I (I'm 22 and he is 34...and I am the first younger woman he has dealt with).

We've been talking for the past two months, and we haven't met yet (even though he lives 2 hours from me). He was dating a girl, but he wasn't committed to her, and I kept questioning him and pushing him towards thinking about her (wasn't she good enough to date...etc). Well basically he and I talked last Friday, (again also a disscussion about him committing to her) and then I found out due to my questioning him about why he hadn't committed and he decided that it was something he needed to try and see if she made him happy. And he came to that conculsion that it was me that helped him come to that conculsion.

I'm confused, and I'll admit hurt. I liked him as much as you can like someone you havn't met...and that you've met online. I am a cancer/capricorn so I am very pragmatic, and I want him to be happy, but at the same time...I feel like I'm being stupid.

My questions are:

1. He wants us to still talk and be friends, however we can't meet due to the fear that something more than friendship should happen. Should I even bother? Or should I even bother? Even though I feel like I'm a safety net or security blanket essentially.
2. Why did what I have to say influence him...he did say that I give good advice and everything like that but still.
3. If I am a friend to him, how can I be a friend when my cap moon feels as though I have wasted my time. Even though it's only been two months.
4. I just don't know what to do. Or should I do anything. I feel like I should cut my losses, and just move on and not talk to him. But I don't know will that hurt him in any way.

I just don't know what to do...I want to be able to be an adult about this...but I feel like I sound like a child. Or am I overanalyzing things too much. After all I AM a capricorn moon.

I thought this was due to the Libran idea of not wanting to be alone, and the virgo idea of playing it safe. He has been dating her a year and they weren't committed as he knew in his gut that she wasn't the one. And he just hadn't found anyone to commit to. I feel like in a sense if it takes you a year to decide you want someone especially after you think they don't fit what you want that you're wasting your time. And playing it safe.

To me it seems like she is a sure thing, while with me anything can happen or not happen. I don't know if I'm off base with that. I feel like he is just being pragmatic.

He wants me to think about things and see if I want to be friends. I thought about it a little last night, but I still haven't come to a conculsion. As I won't be able to meet him unless they end. I am having a hard time seeing the point.

Here are our placements:
Me:
Asc: Cancer
Sun: Cancer 1st
Moon: Cap 7th
Mer: Leo 2nd
Venus: Tau 11th
Mars: Cancer 1st
Jup: Aqu 8th
Sat: Sco 5th
Plu: Sco 5th
Uran: Sag 6th
Nep: Cap 6th

His Placements:
Asc: Cancer
Sun: Lib
Moon: Vir
Mer: Lib
Ven: Leo
Mars: Lib
Sat: Gem
Plu: Lib
Nep: Sag
Uran: Lib
Jup: Cap

posted April 28, 2007 06:06 AM              

To start, you're not being stupid. And there's nothing to be ashamed of feeling the way you feel. In my view, it's normal and healthy.

We are ALL human beings irrispective of what sign we are. All human beings have all of the 'sign characteristics' within their charts. We all can be nieve like Aries, possesive like Taurus and flighty like Gemini, and so on, it's just the emphasis that is placed on each characteristic within the individual chart.

That's one of the most important lessons I've learnt studying astrology.

You are a Cancer and he is a Sag. This brings problems straight away. The two signs are square. Which means that conflict is present (a modern popular assessment states that square energy 'needs to be combined with', my view is that this is true, but the 'conflict' never goes away, it can be mitigated against, but it is always present. It means that you have to 'try harder' to get along). Your energies don't mix that well because there is very little in common between your motivation, your will, your vitality, and the things that both of you need in order to be vitalised. This is illustrated by the elements Fire & Water. Too much water can put out a fire, too much fire can evaporate water into steam. So this relationship is going to be a challenge for both of you. If you want this kind of 'challenge' in your life, then pursue it, if not, then I would suggest just remain friends.

Furthermore, you both have Cancer rising. You will 'rub along' with each other very well. Both of you will bring the same things into your life. For example you will like to go to the same places, deal with people you meet in a similar fashion. It also means that both of you will handle this relationship with great care and probe each other for clues about the other before committing. One of you, at some point in the future, will have to lay your cards on the table. There is no shame in revealing how you feel about someone, or a situation, you find yourself involved with. The hardest part is actually overcoming the fear of rejection. We all feel this, you're not alone.

When you interact with him on the phone it's likely that it is the Ascendant you are talking to, not the Sun. So he's going to be fearful too of committing to you. He doesn't want to make the first move because he is afraid that it WILL go further.

Another positive aspect is your earth moon signs. Yours is Capricorn and he is Virgo. Emotionally, both of you will compliment each other. These moon signs are trine, meaning very easy flow of energy. Watch out for trines though. Trine energy can be waisted by doing nothing. You still have to make the effort.

Also your Mercury signs are sextile. Leo and Libra will communicate well together. Although the way, the words you use, maybe different, you still will be able to communicate together. There will be an opportunity for growth. So talking through your problems and fears will be a good place to start.

So, in the light of this, to answer your questions:

1. I don't see any problem with remaining friends. Stay friends, see what happens in the future. It takes two to start a relationship. If you don't want to take it further, if you feel, as your friendship develops, that he is not for you, then just remain good friends.

2. We all react to what other people say. I would think carefully about what is said when you talk together. Read up on Mercury in Libra to get some insight into how he thinks.

3. Capricorn moon needs to feel that they are emotionally going somewhere. That what they are involved with emotionally can be structured and built into a lasting monument of devotion. Virgo moon wants something similar but it's more related to routine than status. He wants you to be there emotionally on a 'regular' basis. The common ground that these signs have is stability, endurance and longevity. So my answer is, there is the potential here for a lasting 'friendship' or romance.

4. I would stay friends. State to him that you are friends, but be 'looking' for another love interest. You are not committed to him, nor and you casually seeing him, he is one of your friends, just the same as any other of your friends.

To sum up, I'd still take to him, be friends, see where it leads, but still look for alternatives.

posted April 29, 2007 07:13 PM            

I really admire your advice and I know that I never committed to him, and he to me. We were only talking and we hadn't even met.

We've talked since, and he says that him dating her is all apart of the "process" whatever that means. And that I'm wrong to think that I wasted my time talking to him, because this is apart of the "process." I'm trying my hardest to not have feelings or anything like that.

And I am even in a relationship with another person, (A double aquarian) who I do care alot about. Anyway thanks so much for your info. I just need to forget him, and not talk to him about anything emotional, or sexual. Anyway any other advise you have for me...even as far as dealing with the libra/virgo...or just as far as being a cap moon...would be great. Thanks sooo much!!!

posted April 29, 2007 10:35 PM              

Even still, he drives me crazy!! I don't get him. Yes, Virgo's are complex creatures by nature. We have certain things we are particular about, certain routines and rituals and ideals of what's right for us personally. I understand the quirks and the Virgo moods. And a Virgo's need for space once in a while. (I'm a Virgo myself!) Mostly we got inundated during our daily activities and when it comes down to the 'love' part we feel less secure about our role and what we're supposed to do in terms of relationship. We are terribly worried of making a mistake, or saying and doing the wrong thing so that inhibits us a bit. Also, we don't always trust our instincts in matters of the heart, and so we rely on our practical way of doing things hoping it's safe and good enough.

I will say also, as a Virgo, I rarely get involved in things or someone, I *don't* want to be with. It's hard to 'fake' emotions with people, especially ourselves.

The part that's troubling me with my Virgo guy, is I can't tell what he wants or needs in the relationship. On top of that, he won't call or contact me for days on end. He does have an Aquarius Moon... I've had a long past of dating Aquarian men... so what could be the reason?
Too much work on his mind. He is workaholic.
Need for space and time-outs. Aquarian desire for independence and 'me-stuff'.
Or does he just not care enough?

I'm a Libra Moon. I totally believe in fairness. If I call you, return my call. (please). If I show I care about you, show something in return. Geez, I'm dating my own sign and I don't get it.

But I will say, that he's one of the most gentle sweet souls I know out there and that sort of kindness and purity is hard to find.

I don't want to move on, but maybe my Virgo doesn't care enough? He doesn't show it enough.

Any experts out there? Beowulf?

I too am a Virgo and am confused.

Also, I have Mercury in Libra. I don't know if we're fickle so much as we try to see other's points of views, so we may change our minds if someone makes a convincing enough argument. I can say that my communication is very focused on both sides of the perspective and I love thinking of partnerships and seeing how I can relate to another person. It's all about mental exchanges that achieve an emotional balance. And I am also polite in speech, never one to offend, and in talking I'm pretty agreeable as long as the conversation makes logical sense. otherwise up for a fair debate that achieves some sort of mutual balance. Maybe that's not what you're asking. But I'd be happy to help!

posted April 30, 2007 08:10 AM              

Yesterday my bf told me i needed to take some lessons "How to make a guy happy" just because he was jealous of me ( i´ve sent him a message to hi5 and also to some friends,and he acted qwuite childish).

I realised then that im perfectly capable of giving love and showing. The problem is often the other person doesn´t understant our way of beeing and so,misunderstoods appears suddently.

communication is essencial between the 2. Many times by us not telling something ( that hurted us,that is fearing us..)to the other person, that person is going to think some other thing ( wrong obvioous) and when you realise,the 2 of you will be sad and thinking that the other doenst love ( when that isnt´the truth).

posted April 30, 2007 03:29 PM              

What's your Ascendant? And your Bf's, what's his?

posted April 30, 2007 09:00 PM              

Beowulf: I'm a Sag Asc, he's Taurus Asc. Would love to hear your take on this. And thank you for being so kind to help.

Lynx: Virgo men have that quiet sex appeal. I know. I don't blame you for wanting him, actually you have great taste in men, even with their puzzling behaviors.

posted May 01, 2007 07:28 AM              

You said:

"The part that's troubling me with my Virgo guy, is I can't tell what he wants or needs in the relationship. On top of that, he won't call or contact me for days on end. He does have an Aquarius Moon... I've had a long past of dating Aquarian men... so what could be the reason?
Too much work on his mind. He is workaholic.
Need for space and time-outs. Aquarian desire for independence and 'me-stuff'.
Or does he just not care enough?"

With a Taurus Ascendant and a Virgo Sun, he's going to be a steadfast bet as a partner. So I'd give him a chance to warm to you.

What he wants? Well, I would start by giving him a gift. All Taurus's, Asc, Moon and Sun like to recieve gifts. My brother is a Taurus Sun and he is always giving people gifts. Aftershave is a good place to start. Something he can smell.

Not calling is a Virgo and an Aqu problem. He has both within his chart so he is going to be the type that doesn't call, even for a few day. I would suggest that if he does not call, there is maothing wrong between you; so don't worry about it. Try to make him aware that you want to see him, even if it's as simple as the promise of a sexual favour. At least he'll be with you. Most men can't refuse a sexy wanton woman. I know when my Virgo partner goes into sex mode I find it hard to resist, even if I'm not particularly interested at the time. All that soft female flesh wrapped around you seems to stir the mind.

I'd say he's a little shy. I think, if you want him, or at least, want to engage him more in the relationship, you should be more aggresive in your approach. Tell him you have 'needs' too, that have to be met. I think you know what I mean. Then go from there.

As to 'not caring enough'. Well, that might come into it. So you really need to find this out. But I think, deep down, he does care, or he wouldn't be with you.

posted May 01, 2007 08:49 AM            

I feel very sorry for your guy and his ex fiance cheating on him b4 the wedding I cant begin to express how hard that might be.. you cant count on him having very big trust issues I would expect things to move back and forth in this relationship in addition to moving slow. Make sure you show him that not all women are like that.

Seeing Stars

posted May 01, 2007 07:50 PM              

Yes, so much that you said is true. He is very shy and I've come to see that I have to be the more 'aggressive' one if this will ever take off. Not my usual role, but sometime you have to just do it. LOL. I get what you mean word for word.