posted May 12, 2007 08:11 AM              

Sinastry:

- sun/neptune square(-9s)
- sun/uranus square (-4s)
-venus/neptune square (0a)
- mercury/neptune square(-5s)
- venus/uranus square(3s)

Composite

- venus7uranus square
- sun/neptune and moon/neptune square

In our natals, i have venus/uranus square;sun/uranus square;mercury neptune square;moon/venus square;moon/jup square.
Uranus/neptune in my 3rd.

He has neptune/venus square.
Uranus/neptune on his 4th.

Both our uranus and neptune are very aspected in our natals.

I dont know if the natals have something to do with these but we must look to other aspects in the charts and not just focus on least better ones..

For instance the venus/uranus makes thins excitable and unpredictable;that isn´t so bad:at least the relationship is never routine.Also stainds for magnetic attraction, also knowed as love at first sight (it´s true really).

About the neptune squares:

yOU must have red the Cafe Astrology about these,didn´t you? http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html

posted May 12, 2007 08:32 AM              

AG -

posted May 12, 2007 11:02 AM            

Nothing's very straight forward with Neptune imo.. I had Sun conjunct Mercury very closely square Neptune.. in a composite chart. It wasn’t as easy as 'remembering that fantasy is fantasy'.. It's very hard to tell the difference with Neptune - thick fog. The dumbest detail in the world, when omitted.. can turn into a major problem. At the time, you see it as a detail and pay no attention to it whatsoever. Later, in hindsight Neptune leaves you with a sense of complete bewilderment at the way things unfolded.

posted May 12, 2007 11:02 AM              

- SUn square Uranus

"Your relationship is exciting, unpredictable, and stimulating. However, it tends to be explosive too, and there is the strong possibility that you will come together suddenly and unexpectedly, and will break up just as suddenly. If either of you is looking for a very stable, quiet, traditional, uneventful marriage with security, commitment, dependability, and predictability, then this is not the relationship for you! Together you will explore new possibilities and interests and break away from traditional, long-held beliefs and assumptions. Your sexual life, like other aspects of your lives, is exciting but not predictable and likely to vary from ecstatic to unsatisfying. You must be willing to be flexible and adaptable in all areas of life. Be wary, also, of letting your love for freedom and independence become a euphemism for being neglectful and inconsiderate of each other. In some cases, the circumstances surrounding the partnership are such that you are separated at key moments (long-distance and other non-traditional relationships), which can undermine the relationship over time"

Here,the only truth that fits on our relationship is the "separated at key monments"- it´s for now a long-distance relationship.The other things just dont fit.We are very committed to each other and our ways of relating doesnt desrespect or negletfull the other.
As you see, in one way, this aspect does applies, that´s why it´s there in sinastry.

but we also have the sun/uranus sextile
"There is a light-hearted, buoyant quality to your relationship that makes you really enjoy each other's company. You spark each other's sense of humor and you enjoy joking and "horsing around" with each other. You also appreciate each other's creative interests and encourage each other to pursue original, creative activities. Sun especially feels freer and less inhibited by being with Uranus"

posted May 12, 2007 11:04 AM              

"Hard aspects between the Sun and Neptune in synastry can be rather tricky, but certainly not unmanageable. In a very few cases, outright deception is involved with this aspect. However, in most relationships with this energy, conscious deception is not an issue. What can happen, however, is that the relationship starts off with a mystical and decidedly romantic air to it. You may have felt that you met "the one", and the Sun person, in particular, may project too many qualities (often unrealistically wonderful ones!) onto the Neptune person. The Neptune person will likely be charmed by the attention, and may be inclined at times to feed the Sun person's imagination in order to keep his or her devotion levels high. This is not a conscious attempt to deceive the Sun person!

posted May 12, 2007 11:05 AM              

AS you see,"deception~" doesnt mean the other will fool you or unfaithfull or anything like that.
Sometimes,people do tend to put the other in that pedestal and the other,not to hurt, tends to make efforts to BE thar perfect person,when naturally no one is.
This happened in ours.At first,we saw me the perfect girl,and i felt so bad to show him im not perfect ( im a Virgo sun)..but i had to show him i´m just a regular girl,with problems and fears.
That is good,for us to be able to show the other what we really are,and still the other continues to love us,and more,respecting our way of being

- Venus/uranus square
"Electric attraction characterizes this pairing. However, both will have to deal with an inability to truly count on one another over time. The Uranus person may resent any hint that the Venus person wants more of a commitment from, or structure in, the relationship. Affection may be inconstant, or the two may often be separated from one another at key moments. In order for this relationship to work, both parties need to expect the unexpected. This relationship can be an emotional rollercoaster ride, particularly for the Venus person. When the Venus person is feeling especially romantic, the Uranus person may be just out of reach somehow, whether it is a physical reality or takes the form of mental or emotional distancing. This relationship has an erratic, unstable, but exciting quality"

Here it is the separation again .We dont feel less emotion or afffection whenever we´re separated.Everytime we come togetger,there´s like if we never apart.and we do know we can count on each other!

- venus/neptune square
"The square, quincunx, and opposition aspects of Venus and Neptune in synastry generally emphasize the vacillating and withdrawing theme of Venus-Neptune described above. Venus needs to be aware that if he or she falls in love with a romantic ideal instead of his or her real partner, Neptune will most likely retreat. Venus may go through periods of excessive trusting of the partner and swing to excessive fear that the partner cannot be trusted. The emotional rollercoaster can be unbearable if Venus rides on it for too long. Neptune must be extra careful not to promise more than he or she can deliver, in an attempt to make Venus feel better, remembering that "errors of omission" count as misleading. Neptune might have a hard time dealing with Venus directly, especially because it doesn't seem that Venus will listen to reason or even wants to see reality"

posted May 12, 2007 11:27 AM              

Saturn is really restricting a lot in my chart.
It squares my sun and moon. And its in my 3rd house. And they're all in fixed signs.

posted May 12, 2007 11:32 AM            

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Tell me something GOOD about neptune squares in composite.

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Ditto. In our synastry we have the imfamous venus-neptune square and mars neptune square (he's venus, I'm mars). In the composite there is an exact Mars-Neptune opposition. All I ever hear about is doom and gloom as well, nothing about how it could be conductive to growth.

posted May 12, 2007 11:36 AM              

You may or not feel identified with these it´s up to you to interpert the truth

- sun/saturn square:
"Those people born under a challenging aspect between the Sun and Saturn face a fair number of challenges in their lives, especially in the first half of life, in which their attempts to express their will are thwarted. There can be a persistent feeling that they don't get what they want more often than other people around them. They can feel unlucky. Attempts to control their environment, and sometimes others, may be frequent.

These people fear their own feelings of inadequacy! They want to be considered accomplished and important people, and when they face obstacles, they don't always want to believe that they are their own worst enemy. They long to be considered important in the eyes of the world, yet they harbor fear of success at the same time. They take failures and minor setbacks to heart, and some practically beat themselves up over them. Self-awareness to the point of real self-consciousness is characteristic of Sun-Saturn challenging aspects. The truth is, nobody holds a microscope over them, except for themselves. A little setback or a faux pas needn't be analyzed to death. Fingers needn't be pointed. No, they didn't make a spectacle of themselves when they made a mistake. They need to stop worrying about always being right, or appearing suave and accomplished. When they ease the pressure they put on themselves, they find that they don't face as many brick walls. It is very much about what they feel they deserve. Deep down inside, if they let themselves truly believe that they deserve happiness and peace of mind, they will find it.

When Saturn is closely connected to a personal planet, there is usually an effect of censoring going on with whatever is ruled by the planet it joins by aspect. For example, with the Moon, which rules emotions, the natives feel the need to censor their emotions and feelings, scanning them for what is thought to be frivolous. With Saturn and the Sun, there is much self-censoring going on. "I shouldn't.." is a common censoring mechanism with these people. They feel they shouldn't want too much. When they express egotism of any form, some part of them feels guilty. As the Sun rules our conscious mind, it does enough censoring on its own. It is the "adult" within us. Saturn, on the other hand, is more like the "parent" within us. We need parents to guide us when we are children, and to some degree as adults, but for the most part, we don't need to be censored indefinitely--something that seems to be the case with Saturn-Sun hard aspects, except that the censoring and parenting is coming from within.

Ideally, these people eventually learn that the standards they set for themselves are too high, and that may be the reason they seem to hit brick walls. They recognize that many of the restrictions they face in life are often self-created, born of a defeatist attitude. They should be aware of the tendency to choose the hardest paths to travel and/or to deny themselves some of life's pleasures. Working on recognizing and managing these tendencies will help them to avoid the pitfalls of this combination. These people have a sarcastic sense of humor, a keen intelligence, and the ability to apply caution and strategy. The vitality may suffer, and troubles with the bones, teeth, and circulation may surface.

Some Famous People with Sun in Hard Aspect to Saturn: Squares - Harry Belafonte, Wynonna Judd (Sun square Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto), Salvador Dali, Marilyn Manson, Oprah Winfrey

posted May 12, 2007 11:37 AM              

"When Moon is in hard aspect to Saturn in the natal chart, natives need to learn to trust others more. Fear keeps them from fully enjoying personal relationships, and fear is behind the occasional rigidity that they express. When they let themselves receive nurture or care from others, an inner voice cautions them that it might not be sincere, long-lasting, or enough! There can be some reluctance about becoming a parent, but once taken on, these people don't take their responsibility lightly.

Emotional reticence is the main theme of these aspects. Many people with this aspect had a lot of conditions placed on the love they received in early childhood. They tend to expect the same later in life. With hard Saturn aspects, individuals are often plagued with doubts, not only about the self but about what to expect from life itself. The problem is that expecting difficulties or negative situations creates an aura around them that perpetuates the problem. They must work hard at positive thinking and expecting more from life. Ironically, many people with hard Saturn aspects can be quite sarcastic, skeptical, and rigid in manner. This is essentially a defense mechanism designed to protect themselves from harshness in the world.

It is extremely likely that they feel neglected because they perceive it in the first place, and later expect it, to be the case. There's a vicious circle going on here that can only be broken when the patterns created by negative conditioning are broken. Adjusting one's perceptions and expectations is the key to breaking out of these negative patterns. Otherwise, natives of hard Moon-Saturn aspects will live life feeling left out--attracting circumstances that perpetuate a feeling of deep unhappiness and dissatisfaction.

Alternate, short interpretation: Moon square Saturn and Moon opposition Saturn: You often feel that you must do something or be something other than what you are in order to receive approval and acceptance from others. You are very sensitive to criticism and easily feel left out or neglected, and though you may appear cool or distant, you actually care very much about being included. Because you are so sensitive, it may seem easier for you to withdraw into a shell rather than risk the emotional bumps and bruises that can occur when you let others really know you in an intimate, personal way. Your reserve and caution make establishing a close emotional rapport with others difficult for you, and you become very attached to the few people you consider "real friends". You can gain inner security and strength through periods of solitude if you view them as times to nourish yourself and develop your own interests, rather than as times of loneliness.

posted May 12, 2007 12:42 PM              

Increased inspiration and power of imagination
Dynamic psychic events and stimulation
Exciting chemistry in creation or enjoyment of music
Union on a spiritual level that is non-passive
The evocation of spirit entities (obviously not desirable unless intended by both)
Pushing for an ideal or for a compassionate cause.

etc...

Its all in how you handle the aspect (together in this case), NOT in the aspect itself, although we have more difficulty handling squares and oppositions than trines and sextiles because of certain tendencies in human nature. All aspects have positive (constructive) and negative (destructive) effects, because these poles are universal. The negative effect of a trine, for example, is to keep us flowing in a certain direction because it feels easy, when in fact we are headed for disaster.
The square is an aspect that calls for something to be released so that something can happen. There is frustration and destructive effects when we resist this and eventually this frustration causes the needed release but by then in a way which seems very destructive to us, as we have held on to whatever has been released, resisting it.
With Neptune these things are more tricky because it tends to creep up on us, invisibly, like a fog, until it is everywhere, and we havent a clue where we are or where we are going. This is because Neptune is where we have least hold on ourselves as a seperate, distinct individual-its where we are merged with the All, where we lose our identity in the collective. We are weak in terms of self awareness in ths area because it is the part of us where self awareness is absorbed in a universal consciousness.
But often the thing to be released through a Neptune square is an attachment to an ideal, a vision, a cherished illusion or a dream, so that a more realistic and clear picture can be seen.

posted May 12, 2007 12:55 PM              

All of us that have those Neptune squares,thank you for those insight words

posted May 13, 2007 02:47 AM            

I guess when you are unsure about a relationship and you really want it to be positive.. you look for evidence to support that. When you get negative stuff, such as "the relationship may end soon".. it bothers you, simply because you believe it's possible.

If I read something that said to me "your friendship with Gem girl will end tomorrow" I'd laugh at it, because I know for a fact that it won't.. We are honest with each other and I can talk to her and ask her honest questions and I know that even if things get miscommunicated they will BE sorted out.. She doesn’t have an evasive personality.

With most relationships it's ok to dream a little or a lot and think about how you'll be together and live happily ever after.. but with Neptune squares – the dreams end bad.

You seem to be at a point where you don't *know* where you stand with this guy.. You said: "I always felt electricity between us".. What did he feel? Have you ever asked him? .. The friend situation and running around together (do you mean behind her back?) - That’s pretty Neptunian.

If you were both open and honest, then I'd say.. screw the negative interpretation..