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Topic: Libra: The Misunderstood sign.
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Xodian
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posted June 19, 2007 09:09 PM
  
And yet again I don't see the reasoning behind the argument as stated above. Again people seem to fall under the conclusion time and time again that a Libra argues the negitive aspects of its sign just because its looking to gain sympathy. How very untrue and I gotta say... How very immature; This is the very reason why I placed the coutner-arguments of the so-called "short commings" of the sign itself. Why is that people here are automatically assuming that a very logical and by far a very coherent argument is something that people here are seeing as sympathy mongering? Is it because you guys are really out questioning your own short-commings yet projecting it on to this thread and the counter-arguments in question?  Because I really am getting the feeling that there is more to it than just plain simple annoyance Lol!Comeon... I expected atleast more coherent thoughts on the subject at hand... Tsk tsk. Don't hate on us just because we are cute  .  IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted June 19, 2007 09:54 PM
^^^OMFG! Its Boots!! I love him!! *pinches cheeks*IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted June 19, 2007 09:54 PM
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posted June 19, 2007 09:55 PM
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Why is that people here are automatically assuming that a very logical and by far a very coherent argument is something that people here are seeing as sympathy mongering? Is it because you guys are really out questioning your own short-commings yet projecting it on to this thread and the counter-arguments in question?
honestly xodian, we just don't understand, well i don't. my answer may not always be right, but it is an expression of my opinion. And i think even when a persons opinion is wrong, you have to give him/ or her the space and time to grow in their knowledge. ------------------
Virgo Rising 8'57, Sagittarius Sun/4thH 3'26, Pisces Moon/6thH 8'22 "Our passions are not too strong, they are too weak. We are far too easily pleased." - C.S. Lewis "The beauty that addresses itself to the eyes is only the spell of the moment; the eye of the body is not always that of the soul."
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AcousticGod
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From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 19, 2007 10:54 PM
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Libras are Strikingly good-looking people
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Don't hate on us just because we are cute.
Only some of you are. Not all of you. That's a misconception. Look at Barbara Walters (even young), or Michael Douglas, or Walter Matthau, or Groucho Marx, or Bob Geldof, or Penny Marshall, etc etc etc... quote:
a very logical and by far a very coherent argument
Part of your argument was that Libras are emotionally detached, and I don't think that's been many people's experience, even amongst the Libras themselves. Personally, I think that sometimes Libras might handle their emotions in a masculine way, as per their sign quality, and push their emotions out of the when they're not serving any useful purpose. People cry all the time watching Libra Ty Pennington's Extreme Home Makeover, but even touching those lives so deeply, you never see Ty crying with the families. I don't think it's necessarily that he feels anything less, it just wouldn't be terribly productive to get caught up in the emotion himself when he's got a show to host.
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Xodian
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posted June 19, 2007 11:15 PM
Acoustic... man I can always count on you to bring things back on track. As for your arguments, sure I am not saying all Libras are blessed with out-of-this-world good looks (depending upon ascenders, etc.) but most of them quite strikingly... astetically gifted per say Lol! A very perfect example would be Kevin Sorbo; Even now he still manages to turn heads and man, gotta say he brings out Libran qualities in all his roles. And as for you second argument, as I said before, being objective isn't necearrily a bad thing. As stated in the first post, in most situations, emotions end up complicating things that don't need to be complicated in the first place. People really appreciate a solution to their problems more so than a hug at the moment IMO (though quite a number of people may say no to that.) IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
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posted June 19, 2007 11:28 PM
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As for your arguments, sure I am not saying all Libras are blessed with out-of-this-world good looks (depending upon ascenders, etc.) but most of them quite strikingly... astetically gifted per say Lol! A very perfect example would be Kevin Sorbo; Even now he still manages to turn heads and man, gotta say he brings out Libran qualities in all his roles.
Errr, don't you think that's all in a person's personal perception (ie. beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I don't find Kevin Sorbos attractive at all simply because he's not my type but that doesn't mean he's universally unattractive, now does it? And while I won't say that all libras are unattractive, not everyone is going to be drawn to libras as the epitome of physical attraction. Everyone has their own tastes (or types). Again for instance, out of all my crazy celebrity crushes...only two are libras (Jim Caveziel and Roberto Carlos). Its not that I think all librans are unattractive, but its just that I've haven't been drawn to that many librans because of chart influences or personal preferences. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2007 12:15 AM
Well, I really like Libra Susan Sarandon, but I don't necessarily think she's a beauty queen.Kevin Sorbo... that's a really interesting pick in my mind, and the reason is that I find him adequate at best in the one role I've seen him in as captain of Andromeda (my roomate's into all the sci-fi, fantasy, and anime stuff). I prefer Tim Robbins as a Libra actor. IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted June 20, 2007 01:10 AM
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Errr, don't you think that's all in a person's personal perception (ie. beauty is in the eye of the beholder). For example, I don't find Kevin Sorbos attractive at all simply because he's not my type but that doesn't mean he's universally unattractive, now does it? And while I won't say that all libras are unattractive, not everyone is going to be drawn to libras as the epitome of physical attraction. Everyone has their own tastes (or types). Again for instance, out of all my crazy celebrity crushes...only two are libras (Jim Caveziel and Roberto Carlos). Its not that I think all librans are unattractive, but its just that I've haven't been drawn to that many librans because of chart influences or personal preferences.
Touche. And well actually that has usyually been my argument with signs and looks. However, from the general appearence and astetic idea of a person (i.e. your usual Great Skin, Nice Eyes, Good cheeky smile, etc.) one can say it falls pretty close to the "ideal" (notice I said ideal, and as such it isn't set in stone ) preception of beauty. Acoustic: Man oh man, must I disagree with you on that. I thought he was TERRIFIC as Captain Hunt. I blame the lack of lusture in the show because of bad script writing; It started off wonderful but fell downhill fast. His role as Captain Hunt was brilliantly Libran; He snaps on the bayonette and does his Job when he has to and reflects upon the emotional meaning of it all afterwards. Very... Libran IMO Lol! And no one can deny Avril Lavigne ain't a beauty .
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 01:44 AM
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However, from the general appearence and astetic idea of a person (i.e. your usual Great Skin, Nice Eyes, Good cheeky smile, etc.) one can say it falls pretty close to the "ideal" (notice I said ideal, and as such it isn't set in stone ) preception of beauty.
True,can't say this is a good thing...but it is a fact of life. but of course one has to remember that this also varies across cultures and time periods. For instance, I know alot of Mozambicans would die if they were forced to marry someone the size of Paris Hilton or Angelina Jolie or someone who even looked like them (skinny, blonde type, or both). But nevermind what I'm saying, I think I'm stirring us off topic.  quote:
And no one can deny Avril Lavigne ain't a beauty
I think I'll stick with my Roberto. He's more of my type anyways.  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2007 01:45 AM
Really? This girl?
 I'm sure you meant to say Libra Gwen Stefani:
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 20, 2007 01:48 AM
Yeah I agree with you, AG: Gwen Stefani gives Avril a run for her money in the looks department. Plus, I've always liked Gwen style better anyways (Classic 50's glam girl mixed w/ pur Funkiness IMO). IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted June 20, 2007 01:54 AM
And for ugliest Libran rocker we have...
Thom York of Radiohead (far right)IP: Logged |
silverstone
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posted June 20, 2007 02:04 AM
I think I'll stick with these Ladies born under the sun of Libra   ------------------
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year....
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark, and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep. ~Robert Frost IP: Logged |
silverstone
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posted June 20, 2007 02:06 AM
Roberto looks like a vampire, Dulce... LOL j/kIP: Logged |
Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 05:54 AM
I wonder if Maggie.Thatcher felt misunderstood ..
puppet in one hand .. whip in the other .. viola .. balance .. ;-))IP: Logged |
Diandra23
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posted June 20, 2007 06:24 AM
i still didnt get how can someone think that Libras are emocionally detached,manipulative, and uses masks to gain the sympathy of others ( to maintain that social role they have?)Maybe you met some Libra who has other placements that makes him like that;but seriously of all Libras i know:there are no one who is like that. My view was not how i view myself,and yes,how do i view my bf , who i deeply know and feel.
One of my best friends is also a Libra and i adore her by being simple,caring and loving person,with all people. They are very socially yes,but it aint cause they use "negative qualities" to be considered a social person.
They LIKE to BE with other persons,to feel loved and understood in a manner that can only be done if they talk to each others.With no masks,no lies,no manipulations.
In them,doesnt lack strengh.They may seem fragile but deep inside theres a strengh you cant imagine ( and is only seen in the most crucial moments).
Libras seek love like everyone else.ARe more in love wiith Love than any other sign,yes.
IM A Virgo, and i feel misunderstood many times,that isnt a Libra treat you know.
THATS a HUMAN thing(as you said)- so you´re recgnizing thats normal and vulgar.
In our lives theres many moments when we feel misunderstood,and thats a feeling;so it cant be erased from our hearts when we´re feeling it.So waht can we do?
We can try to solve it by being social,by talking,by showing ourselves to the ones we want to be understood - that is being fixed by us, along with the others,right? - and all of us cry im not ashamed to recognize that.
Persons think that whenever one tries to be accepted by a group,it is being deceptive or manipulative - just to fit - UNTRUE Libras are naturally accepted by their natural social abilities: respect,harmony and trustfull persons.
They doenst need - doesnt like - and arent -manipulative,deceptive,insecure to get their dreams come true. They just need to be as they are and accept their virtues and defeits - like everyone else. And i feel very good on being LIbra asc and knowing the Libras i know,and having them in my life for now and always IP: Logged |
Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 06:48 AM
** i still didnt get how can someone think that Libras are .. **
.. have a read of Liz Greene's "astrology for lovers " ..
and also .. every sign contains some of its opposite .. Libra/Aries ..( message/reminder to self .. do Not post the pic of daffy duck admiring himself in the mirror .. )
( save that one for the other Venusian ;-)))) .. or was it given up for a hypothetical Vulcan ? .. IP: Logged |
Dulce Luna
Newflake Posts: 7
From: The Asylum, NC
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 20, 2007 08:53 AM
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Roberto looks like a vampire, Dulce... LOL j/k
Oh! it must be the canines. Well, he's my sexy vampire in case you're wondering. 
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NAM
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posted June 20, 2007 09:33 AM
My youngest son is a Libra and I sometimes wonder what the h*ll goes through his mind.
He is for sure my trouble child but he also has the biggest heart out there, I just wish he would use some common sense with his ways.IP: Logged |
Xodian
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From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 20, 2007 01:28 PM
Man have got a bit of replying to do... Just a tip for those who have switched over to night-shift work; Alchemiystic's "Crystal Dreams 2" works way better then coffee...Anyway: Acoustic: Oh they are both lovey . Avril is a Canadian born singer who obviously shows her Libra traits well since her fans still question as to which genere is she actually trying to stick to Lol! Yeah truth be told I am a bit disappointed in the direction in which she is heading into now but hey... one can always hope she doesn't continues on the road of following what her management says. I personally would actually use the Libras I know as examples rather then celebs but IMO Brigitte Wilson really shows the Libra aura quite perfectly: 
Oh and there was no other politician more misunderstood then Margeret Thacher. Even today people debate about her actions; Some view her as the cold hearted Iron Lady of England where as others applaud her determation and fair assesment of the situations that were brought forth on her. A perfect example of how a Libra sticks to his/her guns when a judgement on a issue has been made .
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Happy Dragon
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posted June 20, 2007 04:34 PM
** .. there was no other politician more misunderstood then Margeret Thacher. **
yeah she definitely had balls ( figure of speech ) ..
i came to the uk in '84 so i missed out on the turbulent years ..
and couldn't really make a comment on her prime minister years ..
but .. she did come across like a head school mistress ...
here's her biography .. ~ http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page126.asp ~
( that pic was just in humour btw ;-) ..
there was another one as her sort of morphing into Tony Blair ..
i.e. a double venusian pic .. :-)
it's said many librans have made good military leaders ..IP: Logged |
Xodian
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posted June 20, 2007 09:11 PM
Yep they do which is why I am really starting to wonder if Venus is the only ruler of Libra...The sign seems to share its characterstics with two Greek goddesses; Athena and Aphroditie. For those who aren't familiar with Greek myths, Athena was born as a full adult clad in armor out of the head of Zeus and thus she has no female influence in her:  Which IMO would explain why Libra is a masuline sign. However, its quite evident that a Libra is emphatic and generally hates violence and carnage; Not to mention its a sign that's obviously been gifted with natural beauty and charm. So Aphroditie obviously threw in her influence as well Lol!  That would also explain the constant stuggle of balancing Logic with emotions a Libran is usually plauged by. Hmmm... This is such an interesting blog topic Lol! IP: Logged |
BornUnderDioscuri
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posted June 21, 2007 02:00 AM
What the heck...i totally missed the last page of the conversation and as usual yet another more than one page discussion has turned into an argument for basically no reason? If anyone here is at all annoyed with Libras or anyone else for that matter trying to get to the bottom of their personalities and discuss others' experiences with being misunderstood, please oh PLEASE don't get involved. It certainly isn't necessary to get involved in every argument that exists on the planet. quote:
Also, they are not any more objective than the next person; they take things extremely personally. Which explains this thread
A certainly biased statement? IF we sat here explaining the psychology behind every thread we would be here forever. Here is an excellent explanation for this thread, we think the topic is interesting and wish to discuss it. In a very kind, non-argumentative, Libra way  quote:
Some people on this board have expressed their opinions on Libras, and the OP obviously took them personally enough to make this great big thread out of it, and argue about it, instead of letting everyone be entitled to their opinions.
I believe there were no arguments here till this statement and the previous one came about...just simple discussion. quote:
Or is that a misunderstanding on my part as well?
Most definately Xodian dearest,
what is a good argument without someone to start a fight and prove the point eh? quote:
I am totally in love with love! I have never been with out a love interest in my life. I can't imagine not being in love to another......is that a Libra thing?
Its a Libra rising thing for sure! quote:
Don't hate on us just because we are cute
Can a Libra rising join that statement? Grrrrr Xodiaaaan!! Venus does not have anything to do with Athena! I refuse to agree with this lololol i despise the woman. The way she treated Aphrodite and in general others, SO UNLADYLIKE! P.S. Beauty...Athena?...HA!<--- much needed resentment towards her please forgive moi
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Dulce Luna
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posted June 21, 2007 09:16 AM
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If anyone here is at all annoyed with Libras or anyone else for that matter trying to get to the bottom of their personalities and discuss others' experiences with being misunderstood, please oh PLEASE don't get involved. It certainly isn't necessary to get involved in every argument that exists on the planet.
May I ask who died and made you moderator? quote:
Grrrrr Xodiaaaan!! Venus does not have anything to do with Athena! I refuse to agree with this lololol i despise the woman. The way she treated Aphrodite and in general others, SO UNLADYLIKE!P.S. Beauty...Athena?...HA!<--- much needed resentment towards her please forgive moi
Actually I agree with Xodian: Athena would make a GREAT choice for an alternate ruler of libra. She does has alot of traits associated with libra. I think she represents libra's logical and reasoning side....and I believe the justice system (another libra thing). Plus I like her better than Aphrodite . In fact if I had favorite goddesses, she'd probably be my second favorite goddess after Artemis, my ruling goddess.
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