posted June 20, 2007 05:15 AM              

""When the Sun is highlighted in a Draconic comparison, you may reach out and achieve your potential through taking pleasure in creative abilities. One may create on many levels; you may visualize your goals, take pride in leadership and worldly accomplishment, raise either a child of the body or the mind, or simply enjoy and enlighten those around you. Whatever you focus your whole heart on will be successful if you will concentrate on the matters associated with this placement by house and by sign.

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Should the Moon be notably aspected the expression of feelings and emotion will lead you on a path by which you may find completion. Attuning to the rhythms of the world around you, cherishing those people and things which surround you in daily life, and being receptive is the way to fulfillment of your Draconic road. Opportunities are presented for you to nurture and feed others as well as the self, whether physically, mentally, or emotionally. Learn to listen and reflect on what you hear and feel.

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Mercury as a focus planet directs one towards using logic and precision in everyday matters. Strive for clarity of thought, use the mind as a tool for accomplishing your visions. What you say and write may have importance for your future. Information may be a springboard for consolidating your conflicts. The handle for improvement may lie within the immediate environment. Thoughts are things, so direct your mind along pleasant paths.

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Venus lights the way of potentiality via relationships, social activities, and the ability to love. Pay close attention to people and things attracted into the life through no effort of your own. While you walk on a road with another being harmonize and agree with them. Appreciation of beauty and the arts may catapult you into new and untried directions. Your gaiety and kindness may attract friends that help you in times to come.

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When Mars is the planet accentuated work and effort will be the rewarding areas of life to concentrate on. There may be higher implications in actions taken. Push forward your personal desires, assert yourself and go after those things you want. Your own initiative may produce a turning point for your future. By pleasing yourself first you may become a pleasure for others. Accept challenges and bravely face struggles as you can grow by overcoming strife.

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The only way to deal with Saturn in any form is to accept the limitations put upon you and learn to follow the rules. As you become aware of the value of public recognition or accept the fact that a reputation is built and not given without merit, you grow in wisdom. Obstructions and responsibilities are placed in your path so that you may become stronger, more capable, and more organized. Learning to plan for the future is your vehicle for gaining self respect. Ethical considerations are important to your fulfillment.

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Jupiter in the Draconic chart gives deeper meaning to the development of philosophy and faith. How you react to the opinions of others and their words has a deeper portent for you. Acts of generosity to and from other people, especially family, may be signposts to future rewards. Learning to refine your judgment, weigh what is wasteful and extravagant versus what empowers others, and expanding your horizons are all areas to explore. Educational opportunities are avenues of positive portent.

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Uranus brings sudden changes and unusual circumstances into the life and by meeting these face on you grow and fulfill the other side of your personality. Accept the new and different. The key to future possibilities lies in chance meetings and temporary friendships that spark new thoughts and goals. Embrace change, progress, and humanitarian endeavors. Refuse to stick with the tried and true out of fear. Learn to adjust to change. Let your innate independence shine.

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The Draconic chart with Neptune exchanges indicates that seeds may be sown through an awareness of compassion and sympathy. Once we realize that all mankind is swimming together in a sea of similar consciousness, we may touch the pain of others from within ourselves. Acts of kindness stemming from imagined needs may be catalysts to our future. Confusing or glamorous situations may arise where things are not as they appear, but by accepting these without fear one may walk a path of higher ideals. Don’t shirk from sympathy or accepting charity. Walking a mile in another’s shoes may help you advance on your own road.

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In Draconic charts Pluto dominating the delineation may point to accepting major upheavals as the route to satisfy the souls quest. There are people, situations, and things which must be eliminated and discarded to clear the road for future accomplishment. Pluto may represent abandonment of an element of the life that is the key to the future performance. The proverb, As we sow, so we reap reminds us to banish resentment from the past before we replant. Purity of purpose is all important with Pluto.

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The Vertex involved in a Draconic combination blends the meaning of the Vertex with Nodes. There is no personal control whatsoever over the situation. The power over our own future lies in the hands of someone else. Another person is thrown into the life and we are swept up into a relationship that may , by surrendering our selves to the influence of the other, fulfill our personal dreams and bring them into actuality.

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Draconic degrees show you exactly where you can grow, widen, fulfill, and enhance your life. These are the important points that can show where you may initiate individual growth of spirit and travel from what was into what will be. We can choose to make our futures brighter and happier by searching for the critical points upon which that future may hinge.

posted June 20, 2007 05:25 AM              

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body
http://www.kheper.net/topics/subtlebody/subtle_bodies.htm
http://www.plotinus.com/subtle_bodies.htm

i will post sme basic information from the above sites for now..
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Just as our physical body is made out of physical matter and that physical matter comes from the physical universe (or plane), our thoughts occur within a mental body made out of the mental matter that is found on the mental plane. The physical sensations we are aware of are produced by physical energy or matter interacting with our physical body. In a similar way, the thoughts and emotional feelings we have are due to mental or emotional energy or matter interacting with our mental or emotional bodies respectively. So we have a number of bodies, each found on a particular plane and the bodies are made of the material of that plane. These subtle planes and bodies are very different to the physical ones and work according to different laws. Consciousness on each plane occurs as a consequence of there being a ‘self’ or ‘body’ acting as a focus of individuality on that plane. The more developed - the more real - the point of individuality on a plane, the greater the awareness of that plane and the greater the potential for energetic interaction on that plane.

The Lower Self: The Physical, Etheric, Emotional and Lower Mental Bodies.
The lower self is the everyday self we are normally aware of. It comprises:

The Physical Body. The physical body roots us into the physical world and this dominates our perceptions when we are alive. It is the ‘coldest’, slowest body with the most solid definition and is the most limited body and yet we must possess a physical body in order to develop spiritually and, ultimately, realise enlightenment.
The Etheric Body. subtle aspect of the physical body it is also called the vital body or etheric double. Sometimes seen as a This body organises and vitalises the physical body and acts as a bridge between the physical and emotional energies through the etheric energy centres/chakras and the meridian system. This is the body that acupuncture, homœopathy, healing, yoga directly act upon - they do not directly act on the yet subtler bodies. Note that the centres/chakras shown on the diagram denote the body/principle to which maximum activation of the chakra can give access. Each of these chakras has a lower etheric centre.
The Emotional or Astral Body. This is the body of feelings and emotions, love and hate, attraction and repulsion. With the mind it gives us desire and imagination. When we sleep we interpret astral perceptions received by our astral senses as dreams. Virtually everything perceived astrally is clothed in metaphor.
The Lower Mental Body. This is where mundane thoughts, analytical reason and logic and everyday memories are produced. Whereas positive feelings like love tend to make you accept and connect with other things or people, the lower mind always keeps you separate as it compares and contrasts the current situation with memories from previous experience, trying to find a pattern or label with which to classify the situation. This means the thoughts of the lower mind are always in the past and always create separation
The Higher Self: The Higher Mental Body, The Intuitive Principle and Atmic Point
The higher self is the source of the patterns or blueprints which manifest on the lower planes as the lower self. Normally the connection is one way: the lower self receives the patterns and influences of the higher self without realising from where they come. By meditation, visualisation and philosophy, a bridge can be built that allows greater conscious awareness of the higher self and a two-way connection is made. This bridge is the ‘mind bridge’ on the diagram, also called the ‘thread soul’ or ‘antakarana’.

posted June 20, 2007 05:50 AM              

Natal is our lower physical self as shown above , the sun, moon and other natal placements are our lower self.
the Draco is our Higher self, what we all strive to be or rather should , and if we dont a Plutonian Relationship gone bad or crisis does it for us

physically the lower 3 chakras , i.e. the Root, Sex and Power Chakras are our Lower self, we are our Higher Self, only Heart Above

Heliocentric chart shows the Key to the development of our Christ consciousness in future lifetimes
Siderael is Space based, it reveals the materialisation ofKarma on the cross of space and time.

posted June 20, 2007 07:05 AM              

your images and knowledge is so cool. (I usually don`t use this word "cool", but I`m really overwhelmed by those informations).

I`m not sure I really understand the difference between draconic and natals. but here goes:

My draconic Sun is on 16° Aries in my natal 4th house
My draconic Moon is in 07° Gemini flat on my natal Descendant and opposite my natal Mars, Neptune, AC and True Node.
My draconic AC is on 27° Pisces.

Natally I have much emphasis on the 1st house (Sun, Mercury, Venus, Neptune, True Node are there; also Isis and Osiris and Lust).
Does that mean I am a very selfcentered person (the stellium in 1st house). But the draconic placements indicate a need to learn to commit myself to relationships, be it in a family (dr Sun, Mercury and Venus in natal 4th house) or in a relationship (dr Moon in the 7th house).
I have to learn to let others come close and not only rely on myself. Some people have said that I come across as very independent and as if I don`t need anyone.But on the other hand, there`s an interesting pattern in close friendships and family-relations. Those people mostly are torn between independence and dependence on others, but opposite me, they tend to show more of their dependant side.
Many people close to me have a Cancer-ascendant (my mother and three of my best friends), which would fit the pattern of a draconic Stellium in 4th house and dr Moon in 7th house.

Is that how you interprete it?

posted June 20, 2007 10:22 AM            

Dr. Sun - Aquarius
Dr. Moon - Pisces
Dr. Asc. - Cancer

hmm.. I still feel that I'm more my natal chart rather than my Draconic chart lol.. ^_^;

posted June 20, 2007 12:31 PM            

Draconic Sun is in Leo (natal Aqua)
Draconic Moon is in Cancer (natal Capricorn)
Draconic ASC is in Aries (natal Libra)

I kind of identify it. I've always loved Leo and Leos and felt an affinity for then... but then I have a natal Sun/Mars conjunction in the 5th house.

I've always thought of myself as extremely sensitive... Cancer Moon? I feel like I'm reaching.

posted June 20, 2007 02:31 PM            

quote:

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Natal is our lower physical self as shown above , the sun, moon and other natal placements are our lower self.
the Draco is our Higher self, what we all strive to be or rather should , and if we dont a Plutonian Relationship gone bad or crisis does it for us

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I found this very interesting as Pluto has been making some fundamental adjustments in my life for the past few years, ones that I wasn't necessarily so supportive of (atleast originally, retrospect can be a pita).

I am curious, though. All of my Draco planets and positions are in opposition to my Natal ones by 5 degrees. In your opinion, do you think that would be indicative of needed to strive for some form or balance between the two in everything or would it be indicative of not necessarily trying to achieve a "balance" but to completely let go of all of my Natal chart tendencies? I am not entirely certain the latter is completely possible for anyone, so I suppose it was more of a theoretical question. Given your description, it would seem my entire chart is some sort of North Node / South Node thing... LOL!

You mentioned something about an e-book that you have. I would love to know what it is called, as it sounds very interesting.

posted June 22, 2007 04:57 AM              

Venusdemilo
all ur Draco placements are opposed, read Love signs , like for eg, read the Leo- Aqua interaction, my gut says,
u should balance the deficiences of the signs, after all ur natal Ascendent is Libra
also check in which natal houses these draco placements falll, that could be a pointer.

Alcheme,
ur r similar to Demilo,
check in which houses the Draco planets fall, like if the Draco sun is Taurus in Nadir, u know the basics of a taurean person, else google on it, trust me i can give a detailed solution, but from my experience self- discovery is the most exhilerating adventure

about the e-book, i am currently out of town, i will post a thread inviting requests, those who provide their emails can get it, but that a week later.

posted June 22, 2007 05:35 AM              

I read your statement several times, but I guess I`m just too dumb to really get it.

HOwever, yes, my AC is conjunct my NN (3°), and my dr planets (Sun, Mercury, Venus) fall into my 4th house (but not conjunct Nadir), and my dr Moon is conjunct my natal SN and conjuncts my descendant (0°05 - that is one close aspect!).
And yes, I agree my view on relationships is warped, definitely. Everyone tells me I should get into a relationship, that my expectations are too high and unrealistic, and that what I am looking for doesn`t exist.
I haven`t committed to a relationship yet; and yes I know that is unusual for a 32-year-old woman, but I just couldn`t. I cannot commit to a relationship, when I know, it won`t last; I cannot say "Yes" to someone, when I know he is not the ONE. Maybe that sounds stupid, but that`s just how I am. All or nothing. Which has meant "nothing" for most of my life.
But of course I have friendships and very close connections to my family.
Not always easy, but unbreakable bonds. I tend to shy away from frienships with many people, because I cannot help it; if I get involved, I get involved really deeply and there will be no way out of it, not for me anyway. Like my best friend, from the first day of our frienship I had tried proving to myself that I don`t really need her and that I could leave that friendship simply behind, if I wanted to (my Aquarius-Moon struggling for independence here), but somewhere during the years I just gave it up, this illusion of being independent.
We have been friends for 17 years now, and it`s this sort of frienship that noone from the outside can understand, at least not the depth of it. It is highly unusual in a superficial world. But all of my friendships are, and if a friendship failed in the past, I have been really suffering.
I guess despite my urge to emphasize my independence and detachment, I´m very much attached inside. The depth of my feeling concerning other people (in love, family or in friendships) sometimes really scares me.
But the thing is, these words "You SHOULD commit to a relationsip" is like a red flag to a bull. I don`t want to be forced doing anything. I can be the most loyal friend, but not because it is expected, but because I feel it deep inside.

But this thing you wrote about that I am only 10% of my own soul, I don`t really get it. I mean, yes, I agree, when I see my soul reflected back from another ones eyes, that is a feeling I cannot even start to explain. But I felt it.
I also agree that 90% of our action come from the subconscious. WEll, at least in my case, I always lived more in my inner world than in the physical realm. And my dreams tell me quite clearly that I have a very vivid subconscious, that likes to stay in touch with me, even though I may not ALWAYS be aware of it.
But why am I only 10% of my soul?
I am not only my conscious mind, I`m as well my subconsciousness.
And then there`s that feeling that even if you add my consciousness and subconsciousness, you don`t get a complete soul. Half of it is still missing, the other half. Or no, maybe not a half, but the mirror of my soul. This is a polar world, so why should there be only one soul? That is not logical. There are always two, and those two`s are one, because they are the same.

I don`t have the slightest idea why I wrote that, and it doesn`t make all that much sense, I guess.

posted June 22, 2007 05:48 AM            

My D. Sun falls in my 10th house...forms an exact sextile to my AC and is conjunct my SN
My D. Moon falls in my 8th house...where my natal Moon is.
My D. AC falls in my 11th house conjunct my 12th house cusp...and Natal Mercury and Venus.

posted June 23, 2007 05:08 AM              

okay, u got me, i'll elaborate

basics first, i'm quoting Cafeastrology...

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The Ascendant defines, in part, the first impression we make on others in a personal rather than professional sense. It represents our physical appearance, our physical bodies and overall health, and the body ego. The Ascendant is often referred to as the mask we wear, although I don't consider it to be as superficial as this might suggest. What it does represent is our natural and personal defense mechanisms that we use to adapt to, and cope with, our environment.

The Ascendant also shows our first impressions of the world around us, and reveals our expectations of the world around us--whether we are naturally hesitant or enthusiastic, for example. How we begin new projects, and our attitude towards new experiences come under the rule of the Ascendant.

posted June 23, 2007 05:18 AM              

also now that u know the fourth house has not the moon but venus , ruler of Taurus emphasized, that too is conjunct ur Ascendent , that is 3 strikes ...
Sun is exalted in Aries ( ur Draco Sunsign ) u have that on Ascendent.. Now DD i hope u see we are getting somewhere...

u have all the planets that conjunct ur Ascendent emphasized in ur Draconic, if anything u r a good guinea pig

DD, i have to tell u what i have learnt in the last one year...
Google.com is ur best ally, google on the above..what is the highest expression of sun, Venus, Neptune and Mercury in the Ascendent.. yes u dont have to work on the 4th or 7th houses.... reverse of what u have been thinking, people being dependent on u but otherwise independent , is not how u are interpreting it, do u see where i m going....
Mind- patterns, enerything u attract in ur life, Person, event or things are a reflection of ur mind -patterns,

South node is our karmicundoing, u have Dr. moon conjunct South node on the D.C. !!!darling u are supposed to run from emotional overdependency on urself, that is definitely not going to help u grow or evolve.. PERIOD.
their is a difference between commitment and bondage.commitment is in the mind and heart and spirit ( mercury, venus and neptune )
bondage is emotional ( cancerian, moonish )

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, I agree my view on relationships is warped, definitely. Everyone tells me I should get into a relationship, that my expectations are too high and unrealistic, and that what I am looking for doesn`t exist.
I haven`t committed to a relationship yet; and yes I know that is unusual for a 32-year-old woman, but I just couldn`t. I cannot commit to a relationship, when I know, it won`t last; I cannot say "Yes" to someone, when I know he is not the ONE. Maybe that sounds stupid, but that`s just how I am. All or nothing. Which has meant "nothing" for most of my life.
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u are right as well as wrong..........
HOW ?
i want u to meditate on that. i will help if u have problems understanding the above

posted June 23, 2007 05:41 AM              

Yes, I always knew Neptune was a very important planet to me. For some part of my life I identified more with Neptune than with my Sagittarian planets; I felt and acted very much like a Pisces (which is interesting, because my brother, who is Pisces, acts very much like a sagittarius, but he has Moon, Jupiter, Uranus conjunct MC in Sagittarius, so maybe that`s the reason).

so, Geminis is the most evolved sign? Didn´t know that.
But anyway, yes, I know about how to detach from my emotions, and I know how to take a step back and observe what is happening rather objective (or at least trying to be).
But that is not always a good thing. I think I tend to analyze too much, too think too much, and I don`t allow myself to feel enough. But I have feelings, and even though nothing comes through on the surface, my emotions are quite turmoiled and dramatic, only deep inside. They sometimes tear me apart, while I`m trying to stay calm and detached on the surface.
but the thing is I don`t want to be this detached anymore, I feel that now the time has come that I actually want to belong somewhere. For about 2 years I have felt some kind of "homesickness", a need to finally go home. that is irrational, because I am home with my family, but I have always felt there`s another home, there`s something missing, spiritually, and I could sometimes feel such a craving and loneliness and yearning, while I was in the middle of a crowd, my family, my friends, who I feel close to.
But I also felt there was a missing part of me, and it hurt quite dramatically bad, I can tell you.
So, as much as I like to think and display the image of being cool, detached, reasonable, deep inside there are some very dramatic emotions. But in a way I do want them to be this way. I sometimes even want to feel emotional pain, just so I know I`m alive and I do feel at all.
That doesn`t sound like a Gemini-Moon or even a Stellium in Sagittarius, does it?

posted June 23, 2007 07:16 AM              

also u must know from the Isis- Osiris thread what i have been and am going thru , else read it once more. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013894-3.html

the point is I know eactly what u mean, i have lost both memory and consciousnee since Pluto conjuncted the G.C. which is vital to my chart.

i want u to understand the following info , read it several times if u have to in conjunction with the hopp- lala i posted above, then the next post

Understanding the Heart Chakra - The Fourth Chakra Healing

The heart center is the seat for the divine.
A space where you are the host and the divine is the guest.
Once this center opens up, the energy reaches here...
You have come half way to hug the divine.
Three chakras below heart...and three above.
The chakras below the heart govern the earthly aspect and
the chakras above the heart reflect the divine aspect of our being.
Heart chakra is exactly in the center,
the bridge that connects above and below.
Here something beautiful is born within...
something is transformed permanently...if you allow it to happen.
Your spiritual journey is accelerated with high velocity from here.
There is no turning back from here
once the petals of heart chakra open up.
Blessed are these souls who function from heart chakra and above

When the heart chakra is balanced :
Unconditional love, forgiveness, centered and peaceful, openness to receive and give, compassion, trust, loving and meaningful relationships.
C. W. Leadbeater, <../Theosophy/Leadbeater.html>The Chakras, Quest Books, Theosophical Publishing House, Wheaton, Ill. p.13
The Heart Chakra is the centre from which feelings of love emanate. It is also associated with other virtuous emotions, such as joy, happiness, honesty, respect, compassion, understanding, and generosity, and with loving oneself in a sincere, non-egotistic way. This is also the chakra through which we connect with others whom we love or have affection towards. Once forged, these links are very hard to break, which is why people suffer so much through the break-up of a relationship or the loss of a loved one
This chakra is the centre of the positive (yang) Chi energy in the body, just as the Door of Life <Door_of_Life.htm> chakra is the centre of Yin Chi energy. According to Mantak Chia <../Taoism/Mantak_Chia.htm>, the left side of the heart chakra is red and positively charged, the right side is dark green and negatively charged, and the core of the heart centre is pure white
The red would clearly correspond to the rose light of love, while the green signifies the lower or gross emotional body functioning of the heart centre, which is focussed on self, security, and accumulation of and attachment to and pride in physical and emotional possessions. The white of course signifyies spiritual purity.
The heart chakra is very important in spiritual healing. According to Barbara Brennan <../subtlebody/Brennan.htm>, all ll the energies metabolised through the chakras travel up the central nadi of the body and into the heart chakra, before moving out through the hands or eyes of the healer [Brennan <ref.html>, p. ]
When the heart centre has been fully opened, it becomes the channel for Universal Love; what the Buddhists <../Buddhism/Mahayana.htm> call Mahakaruna ot "the Great Compassion", and esoteric <../esoteric.html> Christians and Theosophists <../Theosophy/Theosophy.htm> the "Christ Consciousness". Once opened, the Higher Self or Immortal Divine Soul is able to work through this centre. This is probably why in so many cultures the heart is said to be the seat of the soul.

""""'

posted June 23, 2007 07:37 AM              

LOVE IS NOT AN EMOTION
it is the state of being, our souls are made of Love.u need to find a good healer who can help u grow spiritually,
i am a Reiki healer,
i suggest u do the first 2 levels of Reiki,
i wrote about it in the Universal Codes thread, it will give u a clear idea.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002629.html

i know u r not looking at being a Healer. neither was I, but the Goddess directed me to this path, freaky but true.
thing is as u read above , the Reiki master helped me open my Heart chakra as it is vital for a healer and that is when i found the home u r talking about.

i ended up healing myself, for u can't heal others when u need it urself, u will find it wonderful
otherwise find a good healer, she can open ur blocks, by the way the area between the lower 3 chakrs and the heart is called CHIRON . this is the wound that stops us from feeling at home, within ourselves, a healer can help u with that.

read or google on learning about chakras
books i have read and recommend highly...

"Anatomy of the Spirit " - Caroline - Mhyss
" Eastern Body- Western Mind" - Anodea Judith
"Legacy of the Heart " - Wayne Mueller
Hyperspace helper"- Stewart Swerdlow

i know it's a lot of work, but i dont regret it ,i have never felt this alive, this loving, this joyful. i was very cold and detached but i now realise , not out of choice
u will read in the 2 threads how i found myself, so can u

posted June 23, 2007 11:28 AM              

Draconic Sun: Sagittarius (natal Scorp)
Draconic Moon: Pisces at the 29th degree!!! (natal Pisces)
Draconic Asc: Scorp (natal Scorp)

Boy do I connect with Sag! And I love my Pisces moon. Just that 29th degree makes me nervous. Isn't that degree something of a "bad omen"?

Fun and cool nonetheless.

Thanks jane!

posted June 23, 2007 11:42 AM              

You were right; I´ve been having Tr-Pluto conjunct my Sun on 25°56 Sagittarius. I`ve felt the change / transformation sneaking up on me, but when I noticed this actor, things simply exploded, like an explosion of light, and I wasn`t who I had been before, yet feel I have never been so much "myself" ever before.
I don`t know why him, if it was just a coincidence, if he was just there, when that inner transformation took place, but that`s how I experienced it.
And the funny thing is, yes, I`m nervous (not only about going to that play; this isn´t just about a journey oversea, that is so much more.), and part of me can`t believe that I am doing this. I have been always so full of fear of the unknown, and I still am scared somehow, but I know that this is what I have to do, what I feel is right to do, now.
I have always felt so torn, so full of doubt, wanting to believe, wanting to open up, yet unable to do so, so full of homesickness, as I wrote. And now, well all at once I feel so one with myself, so much inner peace, so much joy, like my insides is vibrating in bliss, and there`s not one doubt.
I often doubted if I was doing the right thing, you know, sometimes I told myself it would be easier to be like everyone else around me, to just give up and fit in. But all at once I just know that I had been right all along, that there was no other option for me, this is the path destined for me. Yes, I appear to be alone, and yes, I will never fulfill the expectations of some narrow-minded people, I will never be in a relationship, that only forms to give you the illusion of safety; but this sort of safety is an illusion, like a cell in a prison.
To me, I realized, that I can only give and that I can only love in freedom.
Right now I feel a lot of love, not to a special person, but to the whole world. Well, right, not always, I admit it, but most of the times. and I can see the beauty of this world again; life is soo beautiful. Actually I feel like I am a child again.

But back to astrology, with the new housesystem:
Would that mean that the 11th house is the Libra-house, ruled by Venus? And does that mean, the 11th house plays in relationships a bigger role, than we used to think?
But it makes sense, I always thought, the first house should be ruled by Sun, and the 5th house was a Mars-house.

posted June 24, 2007 08:59 AM              

Juno
DR. moon conj Natal sun,
his Sun sign can trigger ur Draco path for u , specifically emotional development.

posted June 24, 2007 09:02 PM              

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Hank Campbell
Far Rockaway, Queens, NY
*Sun: 8th House/Leo, Moon: 3rd House/Pisces, Venus: 8th House/Leo, Mars: 6th House/Cancer, Jupiter: 8th House/Leo, Saturn: 8th House/Virgo, ASC: Capricorn

posted June 25, 2007 07:38 PM              

On the linked site, How do you do a draconian chart?

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Hank Campbell
Far Rockaway, Queens, NY
*Sun: 8th House/Leo, Moon: 3rd House/Pisces, Venus: 8th House/Leo, Mars: 6th House/Cancer, Jupiter: 8th House/Leo, Saturn: 8th House/Virgo, ASC: Capricorn